Bill Bradley hits the Clintons...

[misanthrope]

..."Former senator Bill Bradley, who is a leading supporter of Obama and ran for president in 2000, accused the Clintons of 'lying' in pursuit of victory.

“'The bigger the lie, the better the chance they think they’ve got. That’s been their whole approach,' he said. 'She’s going to lose a whole generation of people who got involved in politics believing it could be something different.'”

Hillary Clinton sets her sights on three ways to win

[RBInMaine]

1. Bradley is telling the truth.

[annie1]

48. Can you show me the "lie" he is referring to? i can't find it.

that's not a statement, i really am looking for it.:D

[cbayer]

81. In the article, he just makes that as a broad brush statement

He does not back it up with anything in particular.

[annie1]

92. oh. that's kinda lame. :(.

[cbayer]

99. You seem to be one of the only sane people on this thread

And you also seem to be the only other one who actually looked at the article (which is by no means a Clinton hate piece).

[annie1]

108. don't get me wrong though, i think he was wrong to say that if there's no lie. i really...

don't like that, b/c if barack's supporters feel validated in calling her a liar they've got to know why, or it becomes hysteria.

[cbayer]

112. Yes and that is exactly what happened in this thread.

I doubt anyone looked at the article and asked the logical question that you asked.

[Hieronymus]

107. Bradley didn't speak of one lie, but alluded to a policy of lying. David ..

Geffen said, a while back, that most politicians lie, but the Clintons do it so easily.

[Barack_America]

132. Exactly. We have several to choose from just this week.

1. Obama has less experience than Hillary (um, no. He's actually served in elected office longer)

2. Obama's campaign gave the ol' *wink wink* to Canada re: NAFTA (Oops, looks like the Clinton camp did that)

3. With Obama as President, children will die in their sleep

[Cha]

138. Even if Bill Bradley had listed all of

hilary's lies you wouldn't be seeing them. How can you see when your eyes are glued shut from sleeping.

[tabasco]

141. You didn't watch the Ohio debate?

"I didn't have time to get my tax info and White House records to the public."

I suppose you believe that.

[krkaufman]

153. I expect he's referring generally to the misinformation campaign ...

... that the Clinton campaign referred to as their "kitchen sink" fusillade.

As one example of a "lie" (versus just ridiculous typical misinformation or the questionable promotion of a Republican candidate over a Democratic candidate), reference the NAFTAgate "wink, wink" comments by Hillary. She may have aggressively pursued them as a line of attack, wisely and skillfully, while the story was still fresh, but her continued repetition of Obama as saying one thing in public and another in private became a lie at the point that the Canadians refuted that spin.

[UALRBSofL]

2. And didn't some republican senator say

something about Obama, what was it, I forget his name, but he said something about the middle east. Does anyone remember that?

[saltpoint]

3. Bradley dons the brass knuckles and swings hard. He's not the

first person to make a similar assessment.

At this moment in the grand scheme, we can't see too far because the fog is thick. But one thing is certain -- an awful lot of folks are eager to get the Clinton Show off the air.

The high-profile endorsement of recent weeks suggests to me that a significant core of the Democratic Party is ready to move on from the 90s and on into the new century, and that they do not feel that Hillary Diane Rodham Clinton is the vehicle for that transformation.

[blm]

61. How many ended up spending THEIR political capital and reputations defending Clintons and

getting nothing in return for issues important to them and most other Democrats?

I believe many see this election as an OPPORTUNITY not to be squandered with the triangulating politics of the past that had the curious result of only benefiting the powermongers of the RW establishment.

[saltpoint]

76. Hi, blm. Long time no see.

I love Bradley. Always did. Likely always will.

He's expressing a long-held frustration many have with "the Clintons" since their ascent in the 1990s.

It concerns what you say it concerns which also includes, IMO, the loss of the Senate, the loss of the public debate in favor of Newt's "Contract With America," the loss of specific progressive pressure points, and the dissolution of neighborhoods and unions and progressive affiliations.

A Democratic president in office for 8 years should have done better and should have had more to show for those 8 years than that.

I think Bradley's words, understandably harsh, rise from those frustrations.

[karynnj]

Me too and he was my Senator

He is a fantastic person and a brilliant Senator. My husband and I saw him at a local book signing. He was speaking of his then new book (spring 2006) and some work that activists were doing to lobby for a searchable database that would let people find on any subject how Senators voted and donations by a company/interest group related to the issue. My husband wrote this on meeting him:

"My wife Karen and I went to one of Senator Bradley's book signings during the spring of 2006 at an independent bookstore in New Jersey. Bradley made a speech and brought up many of the same themes that he expressed in the 2005 NYT op ed. He brought along a videographer who was filming content for the website that Bradley had created for the book launch. When we got to the front of the line, I told "Dollar Bill" (his nickname after he signed a massive contract with the NY Knicks in the 60's) that when I was 12 I attended a famous basketball game at Madison Square Garden in 1964 at the Holiday Festival. Bradley scored 41 points and almost single handedly had given Princeton a lead against top ranked Michigan. Alas Bradley fouled out and Michigan ultimately prevailed. The Senator quizzed me to make sure I was really at the game by asking me who was the star of the Michigan team. When I correctly answered that the Michigan star was his future NY Knicks teammate, Cazzie Russell, Bradley told the video person to turn on the camera so I could tell the story. He seemed to appreciate the nostalgia. Bradley was very affable and easy to talk to. Bradley was familiar with the independent bookstore because he used to live in this area of New Jersey at the time he first ran for Senator. As a matter of fact a local Democratic Leader had told us that the party had tried to convince Bradley to run for office in Morris County (either State Senator or Congressman). Bradley had the good sense to realize that he was far more likely to be successful to run statewide rather then to run a race in our very Republican County."

[saltpoint]

118. Excellent story and JUST the glimpse into the man's character I've

seen so many times.

Good goin' on the hoops questions, by the way.

I miss Bradley. I miss his speech on the floor of the U.S. Senate in the wake of the Rodney King affair. I miss his brains and civility on health/human resources issues espeically.

I think Nominee Obama would do well to give full consideration to Bill Bradley as veep.

[thoughtcrime1984]

147. Yep, Bradley is another one that I would love as VP

A true servant to the people.

[karynnj]

159. You know - they do say Obama likes to play basketball ... could make some pretty cool ticket photos

He would add gravitas and he is a great guy.

[Coexist]

4. Bradley does very well for Obama.

[youknowmenotdlc]

5. Bradley is a true progressive

and a man of impeccable integrity.

[surfermaw]

6. Bill Bradley is a nothing.

[saltpoint]

7. O that isn't true at all.

[grantcart]

13. he is a nothing

he doesn't count


just like the states of south carolina , . . .

and just like KO he is dead to me


quite a pattern actualy

[saltpoint]

18. Hi, grantcart.

Here's a chance for me to tell you that I have really enjoyed your posts of recent days on this site.

Thank you.

[grantcart]

26. very kind thank you

Craig Grant

[Coexist]

he is a "boutique" endorsement, maybe?

[Coexist]

20. oop! so nice I had to post it twice.

[IndianaGreen]

9. Yes, he is a FREEPER now for daring challenge the Queen of Lies

You people are simply amazing!

[tishaLA]

10. what a shameful thing to say

[Hepburn]

27. And your opininon counts because.....???

:rofl:

[anamandujano]

35. If your opinion counts, then Daffy Duck's opinion counts, therefore everybody's

opinion counts, even if they don't have one, like you continue to demonstrate with your non-substantive quips.

[Hepburn]

64. Spoken like a true, desperate Hillbot....

...:rofl:

Let me know when you are calm enough to rationally discuss anything, OK?

[anamandujano]

68. I rest my case.

[Hepburn]

70. OMG.....

...you are sooooooo pathetic....!!!

Hint: If you and your Hillbot pals deserved posts that were substantive, I would post them. However, hearing the whoosh as they go over your heads gets tiresome!

It's like you drink and regurgitate the Kool Aid 24/7. LOL...:rofl:

BTW: <click> I hate seeing bandwidth wasted! :hi:

[krkaufman]

154. Bill Bradley doesn't matter.

:rofl:

Well, at least ya'll are consistent.

[anamandujano]

8. He's bitter pig.

[saltpoint]

11. If you actually read his stuff, "bitter" wouldn't suggest itself.

As for calling him a pig, he has a very impressive pro-woman voting record.

You should reconsider your assessment.

[anamandujano]

23. I saw the plug ugly f'er on TV. He is helping BO threaten the black

supers with a challenge to their seats if they don't bow to the alter of the empty suit, who is backed by big money, corporate lobbyists and formerly Rezko.

[Coexist]

39. commenting on his appearance - how sexist.

[anamandujano]

41. Check out what your friends have said about Hillary. Game, set, match.

[Coexist]

44. um.... I was being sarcastic because of the way Clinton supporters act here

but never mind...

[anamandujano]

57. Then you let it pass without comment when BO supporters hurl every

stupid, sexist, over the line, even libelous comment their putrid little brains can muster.

You're a hypocrite, but you already knew that.

[cali]

119. you should really

seek professional help. it's clear that you need it.

[Coexist]

133. lol!

you're funny.

[Kittycat]

158. You really need to re-evaluate your candidate. Also... Rightfully so, on the supers.

If they want to ignore the will of their voters, then their voters have every right to seek help in finding someone to replace them. Very simply put.

[IndianaGreen]

12. Speaking of your sow now?

MoveOn...Freepers
Richardson...Freeper
Dean....Freeper
Bradley....Freeper
et al....Freepers

[Kahuna]

31. Don't forget Keith Olberman and Randi Rhodes....FREEPERS?

:rofl:

[stillcool]

46. John Kerry and Edward Kennedy...

the pile is building up. Time for a new bus.

[Name removed]

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[cali]

122. Patrick Leahy

Bill McKibben. Caroline Kennedy Ted Sorenson.

[jakem]

96. not many REAL democrats left huh?

you know, the ones that insist that the queen be coronated, rather than following election procedures...

[godai]

15. That's all you have to say?

Disagree with the Clintons and face your brief and concise wrath. Sen. Bill Bradley is a respected, brilliant Democrat.

[Coexist]

16. Wellstone liked him well enough. eom.

[saltpoint]

22. If Paul Wellstone told me to eat styrofoam, I'd do it.

god I miss that guy.

[Coexist]

24. don't we all.

*sigh*

[anamandujano]

28. Wellstone would more likely tell you to think for yourself. He would not

be lining up behind BO.

[saltpoint]

30. Do you speak for the dead? That's amazing! How is my Great Aunt

Merdith doing?

Dear God knows, we miss her something awful.

[Coexist]

32. he lined up behind Bradley, who lined up behind Obama

that is my point.

Do you have proof that he would not support Obama?

[anamandujano]

40. Your proof that he might is just as flimsy as anything I might offer to

say otherwise.

[Coexist]

47. I didn't attempt to offer proof - I didn't say that Wellstone would endorse Obama

you DID say that he would not. Proof is for you to provide, not me.

[anamandujano]

62. Too dumb a comment to even answer but I will anyway.

Your pathetic attempt at logic in the post I answered implied as much. It's now been torpedoed.

Have a nice day.

[cali]

123. Shorter you: fuck off

why do people say "have a nice day" when it's obvious they're really saying go fuck yourself. Now that's hypocrisy. And nothing's been torpedoed by YOU except in your delusional little brain.

[Coexist]

134. !

thanks, Cali - someone needs a hug!

[pbca]

63. Wellstone Would Have Endorsed Obama

Wellstone towed the progressive line and repeatedly challenged Bill Clinton on things like wellfare reform, he pushed for Universal Health Care - while Hillary was pushing universal insurance (two entirely different things) and he even considered (before being shot down by party insiders) a primary challenge to Bill in 96.

No way Wellstone would have been in the Hillary camp.

[anamandujano]

74. He would have loved BO's plans to move the war to Pakistan, BO's

wink wink to the Canadians on NAFTA, his lying to the electorate about his Iraq withdrawal, blissfully outed by the brilliant Power.

Oh yeah, Wellstone would have fallen for BO's craptastic slogans, without digging further.

You do Paul Wellstone a grave injustice by attempting to put words in his mouth.

[pbca]

75. Sorry - whoever you are you're on ignore n/t

[Hepburn]

77. Good choice....

....it also make my IGNORE list today. All sound and fury, signifying NOTHING. It gets old.

JMHO

[anamandujano]

80. :)

[stillcool]

106. Good idea!!

I was just thinking about that.

[anamandujano]

109. .

[Nedsdag]

128. Actually your picture best describes Kool-Aid drinking Hillbots such as yourself.

n/t

[L0oniX]

143. LMAO

[Coexist]

135. wonderful idea.

thank you.

[bvar22]

142. You are correct.

I had the priviledge of campaigning for Paul Wellstone in Minnesota.
There is NO WAY Paul would have endorsed a DLC candidate.


"There are forces within the Democratic Party who want us to sound like kinder, gentler Republicans. I want us to compete for that great mass of voters that want a party that will stand up for working Americans, family farmers, and people who haven't felt the benefits of the economic upturn."---Paul Wellstone

[saltpoint]

36. Also, while you're here, who really killed John Kennedy?

A lot of us are just dying to know.

[saltpoint]

55. And Warren Harding. Now THERE's a subject. Tell us, and tell us straight:

Did his wife knock him off?

I bet she did.

And I don't blame her.

[Hepburn]

78. I could see the Dutchess doing that! n/t

[saltpoint]

84. Yep. I'm tellin' ya, ol' Warren had it comin if anybody did.

And you know what? That would make a GREAT film.

[DearAbby]

60. Sylvia Brown is that you?

channeling the dead now?

[tokenlib]

72. I think the community organizers would stick together...

..bottom up rather than top down...

[krkaufman]

155. Thank you. It's always nice to find some surprise humor amonst all the bile.

*GOD* I wish we still had Wellstone. I barely knew him, and quickly grew to love him.

[stevenleser]

94. As far as Hillbots are concerned, Wellstone would be a Freeper if he was alive & didnt endorse HRC

That is their single minded insanity. Throw anyone who doesnt endorse HRC under the bus and any states that dont go for her dont matter.

[XemaSab]

117. That bus better be a swamp buggy with MASSIVE tires and some 4WD action

'cause there's a lot of bodies that thing has to get over.

[gaiilonfong]

19. And Hillary

is a bitter battered wife and MONSTER, who will do ANYTHING for power, even stay with a man who was doing an intern in the next room to his wife.


Bill Bradley is an honest man and good guy...the Clintons are MONSTERS

[jenmito]

43. Monica Lewinsky has met the CIC threshhold by spending so much time in the Oval Office

and obviously "consulting" with a president.

[Hepburn]

29. Wow....

...what a truly nasty and out of line thing to say.

But considering what you support....I am not surprised that you would be like clueless and out of line.

Ummmmmmmm, "Shame on you!"

[whatchamacallit]

37. You're free to disagree with him, but calling him a pig for expressing a legitimate point of view

says more about your piggishness than his.

[anamandujano]

51. It says more about what's allowed to pass for commentary at this forum.

Your bellyaching is laughable.

When legitimate = threats, you know you have jumped the shark. Jim Lehrer's eyebrows raised a good 3" while Bradley was spewing his venom.

[stillcool]

56. You sound just like OMC

are you related?

[anamandujano]

86. I can only wish I had his style.

[stillcool]

103. Oh believe me...

you do. Uncanny.

[Exilednight]

14. Hillary is to busy looking at today that she doesn't look to the future. She might be able to do...

a small handful of decent things in 4 or 8 years, but where does that leave our party after that?

If Obama loses, he and his wife stated that he will not run again; and honestly who can blame him? The only reason they are doing it now is because the time is right in their lives. Their children are young enough to probably not remember all the headaches of a campaign, yet old enough to probably understand what is happening.

[nsd]

17. Go Bill!

[Upton]

21. Bill Bradley is a real Democrat

not some phony that endorses a Republican, employs Rove-like campaign tactics and votes for preemptive invasions. Way to speak up Bill!

[annie1]

25. i read the article but what is the "lie" he is talking about, can...

someone paste it for me, i could be skimming too fast.

[jenmito]

54. How 'bout when she said McCain brings a lifetime of experience to the campaign

and Obama brings "a speech from 2002"? Do you think that's true-that he has no experience other than a speech he gave 6 years ago?

[annie1]

59. i thought she said "will put forth". that makes her a liar? a speech from 2002?..

he's got to be talking about something else. i don't dislike bradley, so if he's claiming she told a lie, i want to know what it is.

[jenmito]

67. She said "bring" once, too. That makes her a liar. He also brings 20 years of experience.

Especially if she counts her entire life after college.

"She said she and McCain had traveled to Iraq, Afghanistan and Pakistan together as she repeated a line that surfaced from the campaign trail. She and McCain “bring a lifetime of experience to the campaign, Clinton said, while “Sen. Obama will bring a speech he gave in 2002,” stating his opposition to the Iraq war as an Illinois state senator."

http://weblogs.chicagotribune.com/news/politics/blog/2008/03/clinton_ive_crossed_commanderi.html

She ALSO said he told the OH people one thing and the Canadians another thing about NAFTA. That's a lie. The Canadian Parliament said there was no difference between what he said publicly and what his adviser said privately.

[cbayer]

88. I answered you above. He did not specify.

I don't know if he was quoted out of context or just made a really general statement.

[jenmito]

91. I just gave you two examples of lies. Bradley didn't specify. They're obvious as I just quoted one

and pointed out another.

[cbayer]

95. I don't believe she was asking for your opinion

I believe she was asking for clarification on what Bradley was talking about.

[jenmito]

101. I know.

I KNOW she asked to cut and paste a quote from that article. There was no examples in that article. I gave examples of her lies nonetheless.

[OzarkDem]

33. Bradley lost to Gore

he apparently still holds a grudge against Bill Clinton's VP.

This kind of vengeful stuff is unflattering to him.

[Hepburn]

49. What???

How does this compute??? :eyes:

(Only in Hillaryworld!)

[OzarkDem]

100. It explains why he still holds a grudge against them

As info: Gore was Clinton's VP and the Clinton's supported Gore over Bradley in the primary of 2000.

[saltpoint]

53. Do check the calendar. The 2000 race occurred well after the 1992 race.

Swear to god.

[OzarkDem]

104. Yes it did, and Gore ran for the Dem nomination against Bradley in 2000

Gore was Clinton's vice president, so Clinton supported Gore in the 2000 primary against Bradley. Bradley lost the primary and it made him angry and he apparently still holds a grudge against the Clintons because they supported Gore.

Sorry, but I can't believe I have to explain this to fellow Democrats. BTW, I worked on Gore's 2000 primary campaign, so I know Bradley didn't win and was angry at Gore because he did.

[saltpoint]

144. You feel the election of 2000 preceded the Clinton-Gore campaign of

1992?

I believe it was the other way around.

[intaglio]

71. Hmmmm, Gore

How he must like the Clintons. He seems to have thrown his whole-hearted support behind .....



Oh, no .... he hasn't. I wonder why???

[XemaSab]

120. I sense that Gore's going under the bus any day now...

Shit, I want to be under the bus!

All the cool people are under there! :D

[Kokonoe]

34. Bill Bradly derailed our nominee in 2000.

He knows from experience. I'm glad hes honest now. But I'm going to wait for the other shoe to drop.

[anonymous171]

38. "Derailed"? We all know that Gore won, so shut up.

[Kokonoe]

105. Shut Up? Bradley played the same role Hillary is now

They both lost

[XemaSab]

125. Wow, I didn't know Hillary was attacking Obama for being too conservative!

Who knew? :shrug:

[Kokonoe]

136. Spoilers attack strength and weakness.

McCain was OK in Bradley's book.

CLAREMONT, New Hampshire (CNN) -- In an unusual joint appearance, Democratic presidential candidate Bill Bradley and GOP presidential hopeful John McCain pledged Thursday that if they receive their party's nomination, they would completely swear off unregulated soft money campaign donations.

Mr. McCain is appealing to voters, even Democrats, not because he opposes abortion rights and gun control and favors school vouchers, Mr. Bradley said, but because "he's standing up for reform."

"And if we don't stand up for reform, we have a special vulnerability," Mr. Bradley said. "When Democrats have fund-raising scandals, it's different. Republicans are expected to be in the pockets of special interests."

http://www-cgi.cnn.com/1999/ALLPOLITICS/stories/12/16/camp.finance/index.html

[XemaSab]

139. So you don't think Bradley should have supported McCain-Feingold?

:shrug:

[Kokonoe]

140. I support Gore

And Obama, and maybe Bradley is Ok, but I will never forgive him for his part in 2000.
I was for John Edwards, and was sorry to see him quit, but these guys know better than us when to quit, and I know Hillary should quit.

[saltpoint]

42. He stole the Lindbergh baby as well. Don't forget that.

[Kokonoe]

116. He did call for a special prosecutor of Clinton and Gore

WASHINGTON, Feb. 20, 2000 -- Former Senator Bill Bradley publicly endorsed the appointment of a special prosecutor today to investigate campaign finance abuses by the Clinton-Gore campaign in 1996, saying he thought there was clear evidence that laws had been broken.

http://www.nytimes.com/library/politics/camp/022100wh-dem-bradley.html

[saltpoint]

124. Got it.

[sandnsea]

45. Now here's a guy who gets it

If Hillary and Obama's policies are the same, (although they're not), then why not get the next generation started with a politics of what's possible, not just window dressing while the corporatists continue raping the world.

[boston bean]

50. Bill Bradley is a complete idiotic fool. He is one bitter man. nt

[Exilednight]

58. Translation: I don't like the message so I will call him names instead of using facts to refute.n/t

[saltpoint]

65. I wish I could write as well as Bradley.

Your assessment seems unfounded given his command of issues and ideas.

[whatchamacallit]

73. Guess you got the fax

Just like your republican buddies, kill the messenger. Especially, if he/she is a bright and respected figure. You all look like such fools.

[cali]

127. You want bitter?

Go look in the mirror.

[saltpoint]

145. For purposes of clarity, is it worse to be a complete idiotic fool or

an incomplete idiotic fool, in case some of us want to actually critcize Republicans in the general election?

[oasis]

52. Bradley's two cents is worth just about two cents. (eom)

[youknowmenotdlc]

69. It's amazing the level of disrespect being thrown at BB by

Hillary's supporters.

They have placed the Clinton cult of personality above both the party and the country.

[annie1]

93. personally, i'm not dissing BB, but if he's gonna call her a liar...

he should back it up.

[oasis]

97. Somebody please tell Mr. Bradley that the train called "Relevant" left the station in 2000.(eom)

:eyes:

[BootinUp]

79. lol nt

[anamandujano]

85. One and a half, in my opinion. He has knowingly taken on the role of thug.

He is sickening.

Anyone who witnessed the level of menace in his eyes when he was spewing on Jim Lerher's show would have to question BO's tactics.

Let them keep pushing like this. It shows are ready to implode.

[snappyturtle]

82. V-e-r-y interesting article. I agree that Hillary will stop at nothing

to win. K&R

[cbayer]

83. Hate to break up this enlightening conversation, BUT DID ANYONE READ THE ARTICLE??

It's actually quite fair and balanced and gives a great breakdown of the current situation and possible outcomes.

The brief snippet used in the OP and it's inflammatory title are not at all reflective of the entire article.

But if it was a flame war you wanted, then you got it.

[anamandujano]

87. Bradley is a pig.

[saltpoint]

89. Nah he ain't neither.

[cbayer]

90. WTF? Are you directing that at me?

You seem quite out of control and very disruptive.

[anamandujano]

98. I'm disruptive of your circle jerk for BO only by presenting facts.

[cbayer]

102. You must have me confused with someone else.

I am a strong supporter of both candidates.

And I object to your "presenting facts" in such a hostile and inflammatory way. You do your candidate no favors.

Oh, and "Bradley is a pig" is not really a fact.

[anamandujano]

111. Your selective outrage would be funny, if it weren't so sad.

"hostile and inflammatory"--Have you been reading any of the posts by BO followers here?

[cbayer]

115. Oh, I agree with you.

They are no better. But you were the one who responded to my post (which I felt was pretty reasonable) with a hostile and inflammatory statement.

Believe me, I confront them all of the time.

[anamandujano]

121. Thank you. I was originally responding to the OP's championing of Bradley.

I confused you with the OP so I reiterated my remark and intended to exit the thread for good.

I did read the article, at your prompting, and it was very biased against my candidate.

edit to add--I withdraw my remark about YOUR selective outrage, however it stands for the Obamabots who think they rule this forum.

[cbayer]

126. Peace. nt.

[amborin]

110. he's such an incompetent sleaze....that's a good thing to be condemned by him

the way he left New Jersey in such a disasterous mess

[Madam Mossfern]

113. What?

Can you clarify that statement?

[anamandujano]

114. I watched and listened to him speak in the Senate. He appeared to be like the Repukes

who won a high school president race because he was on the basketball team.

[cali]

129. Seek help

Heavy duty help.

[XemaSab]

130. So being a Rhodes scholar doesn't impress you?

:shrug:

Interesting...

[JVS]

156. Only if it's Bill Clinton

[saltpoint]

131. LOL. I'd pay some serious bucks to hear you debate this "incompetent sleaze,"

amborin.

I bet your assessment would change very shortly into the discussion.

[JVS]

157. Left Jersey in a disasterous (sic) mess?

:rofl:

Has it ever not been in a mess?

[Catherina]

137. That's a classic, truthful quote. The truth always comes out

"The bigger the lie, the better the chance they think they’ve got. That’s been their whole approach,"

[AX10]

146. Where's your proof Bill?

You Bill Bradley are the the only liar around here.

[BenDavid]

148. just throw shit out there dollar bill and see if it sticks...it won't so

take yo lil' giblet ass back to wherever and sit down and relax....you had your chance and you got shook by gore and what you have to say is meaningless.....

[scheming daemons]

149. You're right..... applies to Rezko too....

...

;-)

[Voice for Peace]

150. Reeling nonsense

"The New York senator has unnerved Obama, who has been left reeling by a series of errors from senior policy advisers"

I don't think this is correct.
He doesn't strike me as either unnerved or reeling.

[WinkyDink]

151. Bill Bradley? Who cares what he thinks? He also ran against Gore.

(Remember: Obama supporters' "Who cares what Gen. Clark thinks?")

[malik flavors]

152. The Obama camp needs to hire Bradley as their attack dog. He's better than the current surrogates.