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AGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 06:22 PM
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Mr. Obama wanted to vote to confirm John G. Roberts Jr. for the Supreme Court?
http://news.aol.com/elections/story/_a/obamas-star-not-as-bright-in-senate/20080309101409990001?ncid=NWS00010000000001 - I've found it in this article.

Is that True? Why would he want to confirm that?
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RUMMYisFROSTED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 06:23 PM
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1. ClintonObama= "Nay."
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AGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 06:38 PM
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2. noticed I said "wanted"
In the Senate, meanwhile, he was discovering the realities of being a senator — that not every bill is perfect (or perfectly unacceptable) and that most votes required balancing the good and bad. Mr. Obama wanted to vote to confirm John G. Roberts Jr. for the Supreme Court, for example — he thought the president deserved latitude when it came to appointments — but Mr. Rouse advised against it, pointing out that Mr. Obama would be reminded of the vote every time the court made a conservative ruling that he found objectionable.


http://news.aol.com/elections/story/_a/obamas-star-not-as-bright-in-senate/20080309101409990001?ncid=NWS00010000000001
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RUMMYisFROSTED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 06:42 PM
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3. Didn't.
:shrug:
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AGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 06:43 PM
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4. He also said..
“I wasn’t the first lady, and I didn’t have some of the political baggage of eight years of hand-to-hand combat between the White House and the Republican Congress,” he said soon after he first arrived. “In that sense, she had a harder task.”


“I think it’s very possible to have a Senate career here that is not particularly useful,” he said in an interview, reflecting on his first year. And it would be better for his political prospects not to become a Senate insider, which could saddle him with the kind of voting record that has tripped up so many senators who would be president"

http://news.aol.com/elections/story/_a/obamas-star-not-as-bright-in-senate/20080309101409990001?ncid=NWS00010000000001
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 07:02 PM
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9. Russ Feingold is a huge believer in Presidential latitude when
it comes to judicial appointments. He's still one of the most progressive people in Congress. Pat Leahy DID vote for Roberts and he's far more progressive than either Hillary or Obama. The truth is it's more complex than most DUers are willing to grant. And Obama did not vote for him, so I completely fail to see your point.
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AGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 07:03 PM
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11. Read again if you completely fail to see the point..
Edited on Sun Mar-09-08 07:04 PM by AGirl
In the Senate, meanwhile, he was discovering the realities of being a senator — that not every bill is perfect (or perfectly unacceptable) and that most votes required balancing the good and bad. Mr. Obama wanted to vote to confirm John G. Roberts Jr. for the Supreme Court, for example — he thought the president deserved latitude when it came to appointments — but Mr. Rouse advised against it, pointing out that Mr. Obama would be reminded of the vote every time the court made a conservative ruling that he found objectionable.










I don't think Bush deserved latitude when it came to appointments
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 07:06 PM
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15. I don't think you know enough about how it works to even be discussing it
and sorry, there is virtually no way that a President can be deprived of his judicial appointments.
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AGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 07:09 PM
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16. okay, so washington insiders and those well versed in politics know "how it works"
Edited on Sun Mar-09-08 07:10 PM by AGirl
But if the Obama's campaign is about changing "how it works" in the U.S senate, than I do expect him to do the right thing and to demonstrate that his action in the U.S senate match his rhetoric.
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Hutzpa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 07:06 PM
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13. Why would you post
such a misleading thread is beyond me.

Hillbots just can't stop their RW smear.
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 06:45 PM
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5. Opening a pandora's box: Hillary opposed John Kerry's filibuster of Alito.
The only way to prevent Alito getting on SCOTUS was with a filibuster. Kerry cut short a Swiss vacation just to join Russ Feingold in leading the effort to block Alito's nomination. She also opposed Kerry's resolution for Iraq troop withdrawal timetables.

Clinton and Kerry Show Democratic Divide on Troop Withdrawal

By ADAM NAGOURNEY and ROBIN TONER
Published: June 14, 2006


Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton, Democrat of New York, faced boos and shouts of "bring them home" from an audience of liberal Democrats here on Tuesday as she argued against setting a deadline, wading into what she called a "difficult conversation." Thirty minutes later, the same crowd applauded wildly as Senator John F. Kerry, Democrat of Massachusetts, the party's 2004 presidential candidate, implored the Senate to back his call for a six-month deadline for withdrawal, and said he regretted his initial support for the war.

"It is essential to acknowledge that the war was a mistake — to say the simple words that contain more truth than pride," Mr. Kerry said, adding: "It was wrong and I was wrong to vote for that resolution."

With President Bush making a high-profile visit to Baghdad, and his chief political adviser, Karl Rove, having unleashed a sharp attack on Democrats over the war, Republicans said Democratic infighting over Iraq would hurt Democrats as the midterm elections approached.

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/06/14/washington/14dems.html
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RUMMYisFROSTED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 06:46 PM
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6. I was trying to nip it in the bud.
Oh, well.
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AGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 06:56 PM
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7.  Obama was also opposed to Kerry's Troop Withdrawal
Edited on Sun Mar-09-08 06:57 PM by AGirl
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 07:04 PM
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12. better post a link for that one, dear
and better stop fooling yourself and go back to supporting hill.
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AGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 07:06 PM
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14. It's from the same article...
He disappointed some Democrats by not taking a more prominent role opposing the war — he voted against a troop withdrawal proposal by Senators John Kerry of Massachusetts and Russ Feingold of Wisconsin in June 2006, arguing that a firm date for withdrawal would hamstring diplomats and military commanders in the field.

http://news.aol.com/elections/story/_a/obamas-star-not-as-bright-in-senate/20080309101409990001?ncid=NWS00010000000001
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monmouth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 06:57 PM
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8. Senator Obama, not Mr...n/t
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AGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 07:02 PM
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10. sorry, I was quoting from the article.
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Mike03 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 07:09 PM
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17. Interesting if true.
Every bit of excavation on all the candidates is helpful.

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AGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 07:11 PM
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18. It's an interesting article, never seen anything like that before.
It shows everything Obama did in the Senate, including the Ethic reform bill.
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 07:12 PM
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19. University of Chicago...supported John Roberts..so Obama had to "fall in line?"
:shrug:
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