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earthlover Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 06:28 PM
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How Big A Factor Is Race In The Democratic Primaries?
Edited on Sun Mar-09-08 06:30 PM by earthlover
A statistic from the Ohio exit polls has saddened me and provoked considerable thought since then. Apparently, according to the exit polls, 20% of Ohio Democratic voters had race as the deciding factor in their vote. 85% of these people voted for Hillary.

It just dawned on me: If you do the math, that leads to 30.9% of those in Ohio who voted for Hillary did so on the basis of race. Wow! (take 100 voters as a base. Multiply by 20% you get 20. Then multiply x 85% and you get 17 voters who voted for hillary and also voted on the basis of race. Then Divide 17 by 55(the percent who voted for hillary) and you get 30.9%)

I would hasten to add that there are also a percentage of Obama voters who are voting on the basis of sex, but this was not in the poll. And 15% of those who voted on the basis of race voted for Obama (about 6.66% of Obama voters).

It is no wonder there is so much animosity towards Obama among some of the Hillary supporters. At least 30.9% of them from Ohio. The 30.9 % will not find it politically correct to openly criticise Obama on the basis of race, but they WILL find other things to criticise Obama about that is more socially acceptable.

While it is true that 70% of Hillary voters did NOT use race as an issue, this is stunning to me. And we are talking about Democrats in a northern state.

Hopefully this is not true of other states besides Ohio.
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thunder rising Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 06:32 PM
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1. It can never be that people vote for the best candidate. There has to be some evil intent.
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Double T Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 06:34 PM
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2. ZERO. NONE. .........
ONLY can speak for myself.
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earthlover Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 06:36 PM
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3. I was referring to statistics from the exit polls. I do not like the statistics either.
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BenDavid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 06:50 PM
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4. obama labeled HRC a racist, so what do the facts matter? But,
These last 60 days have been the most hateful since I've been involved with politics.Gee, I wonder - who started that ball rolling? Who was it that got us to stop fighting the Bush bastards so we could fight each other? Who gained power by splitting the party and getting Democrats to fight Democrats? If you answered Obama to all three questions you would be right.

Obama and his people injected race into this campign and with some willing mediawhores laid it right at the feet of Bill and Hillary Clinton. the campaign's strategists turned the primary and caucus race to their advantage when they deliberately, falsely, and successfully portrayed Clinton and her campaign as unscrupulous race-baiters.

A truthful look of what actually happened shows that the charges that the Clintons played the "race card" were not simply false; they were deliberately manufactured by the Obama camp and trumpeted by a credulous and/or compliant press corps in order to strip away her once formidable majority among black voters and to outrage affluent, college-educated white liberals as well as college students. The Clinton campaign, in fact, has not racialized the campaign, and never had any reason to do so. Rather the Obama campaign and its supporters, well-prepared to play the "race-baiter card" before the primaries began, launched it with a vengeance when Obama ran into dire straits after his losses in New Hampshire and Nevada--and thereby created a campaign myth that has turned into an incontrovertible truth among political pundits, reporters, and various Obama supporters. This development is the latest sad commentary on the malign power of the press, hyping its own favorites and tearing down those it dislikes, to create pseudo-scandals of the sort that hounded Al Gore during the 2000 campaign. It is also a commentary on how race can make American politics go haywire. Above all, it is a commentary on the cutthroat, fraudulent politics that lie at the foundation of Obama's supposedly uplifting campaign.

Obama turned it into RACE....


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earthlover Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 07:00 PM
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5. Quotes? Links?


You digress. The post was about 20% of Ohio voters who in an exit poll said race was the deciding factor in their vote. 85% of them voted for Hillary. Which means 30.9% of Hillary voters in Ohio did so on the basis of RACE.
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2rth2pwr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 07:04 PM
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6. How many people voted for Obama because of his race?
You are making an assumption here.
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earthlover Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 08:29 PM
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7. I think i answered this question already, based on the exit polls....6.67%
Apparently more Hillary supporters than Obama supporters base their decision on race in Ohio.

I am not making any assumptions at all. I am merely using mathematical analysis of the exit polling data. It is really not that complicated and I explained how it was arrived at.

It should surprise noone that race would play a factor among some people. I was surprised to see how many Ohioans said in the exit polls that race was the deciding factor. Democrats. I imagine that this number would be even higher among the Repukes.
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