Hillary Supporters! Do you think she's setting herself up as VP?

[joeybee12]

I think her campaign is considering it. She faces an uphill battle, although anything could happen and I believe that as long as she believes she might win, she'll keep on fighting. But, one thing from all this is that she's proven is that she can win over working class Dems, a demographic Obama has not shown he can win, and definitely will need in the GE, because they're those pesky Reagan Democrats who feel left out and will vote Repuke if they will McCain understands their needs better. I think she'd rather be on the ticket as Prez, but she's smart and is looking at all possibilities...and all her talk about Obama being her VP may be a way to get the discussion going.

That said, the big deterrent is BO himself...I think the party bigwigs would see this as a great solution, but he's proven himself to be very thin-skinned and may just tell Hillary and Dem unity to f**k off.

Thoughts?

[0007]

1. She could be stoning two birds with one stone if true.

[SKKY]

2. Obama is very thin-skinned???

I think he's been absolutely stone-cold rock solid throughout all of this.

[Liberal Veteran]

6. It's Clintonitis....characterized by vitrolic outbursts and transference of one's own shortcomings.

[joeybee12]

12. Yeah, brushing her off with this talk...unable to see past himself to

see what is going oin...just like Michelle saying "Well, I'll have to think about that" when asked if the Hillary and Barack would get along after the voting...comes across and petty and small...the two need to grow up.

[thunder rising]

3. Barack could not trust Clinton as a VP. The under cutting, backbiting and uncon-troll-able

She would stand in the way of everything Barack stands for and would undercut and triangulate the administration into a failure.

[TeamJordan23]

4. Agree. She will try to undermine him. Maybe she can run with her friend, McCain. nm

[Diane R]

17. Yep....she'd have 4 years to stick knives in his back and cut him off at the knees.

[monmouth]

5. Well at least I hopefully can look forward to him telling Hill to f**k off..n/t

[pinkpops]

7. If he's looking for a dream ticket he could look for another

strong woman. Surely she's not the only one out there.

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

8. She's Setting Herself Up To WIN. And It Wouldn't Be Up To Obama, Either Way.

If things get closer and go to the wire, you can almost bet your bottom dollar the powers that be will step in and FORCE them to either have a clinton/obama ticket or an obama/clinton ticket. It won't be up to them. Obama can say fuck off all he wants, but that would just mean he's not on the ticket at all (which of course, would be the most selfish thing I've ever seen).

[SKKY]

11. OMC, has this ever happened before?

Where Party Leaders "forced" a ticket.

[joeybee12]

13. 1968...they decided on Humphrey...although I don't think that's

actually the same...they probably would put pressure on both camps to do this, though.

[SKKY]

14. I would be disappointed in Obama if he let that happen...

...Starting your "Pro-Change", "Anti-Typical Washington Politics" campaign by essentially secumbing to typical Washington politics would not be good, in my opinion.

[joeybee12]

15. Politics is all about compromise...if you don't accept that,

then nothing gets done. I don't mean you should give up your beliefs, but you gotta understand you have to live and work with other people...it's like that in any job where you want to succeed.

[bilgewaterbill]

23. He'd do better without her baggage.

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

30. No Way In Hell.

Obama on his own is not a guaranteed victory, whereas the dream ticket is. Those claiming she would bring him down are off their rockers. Whichever the combination, the dream ticket would be an unstoppable one with buzz and excitement propelling it like no other matchup in history.

[joeybee12]

31. Yeah, and in my OP, she appeals to working class Dems...

...he needs them more than any perceived baggage.

[bilgewaterbill]

32. It ain't gonna happen.

But I will note your comments for reference later should you prove correct.

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

33. Actually, As It Stands Right Now, I'd Give It Better Than 50/50.

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

21. It Would Be More Like A Heavily Weighted Suggestion.

If it comes down to it, they're gonna look for compromise. They're gonna have a good sit down with the candidates and tell them that what everyone wants, and what would work for everybody, would be a dream ticket. There's too much momentum and buzz about that already. During the talks, it will become apparent who the party insiders want at the top, and after some arm twisting both sides would likely agree. If one shunned the decision, it would likely be viewed as shunning the party as a whole, and they'd just give the nomination to the other.

Yes, I can totally see that happening. What's left to be determined is who they will put at the top.

[SKKY]

22. But, here's my question...

...Is Obama/Clinton THE dream ticket? I would think Obama/Edwards would be just as attractive.

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

29. There Is NOTHING That Would Come Anywhere Near CLOSE To Creating The Buzz Of Clinton/Obama.

Not even close.

The buzz and excitement that would be created from that ticket would be unstoppable. We'd steamroll over McCain.

[JackORoses]

37. more selfish than Hillary Clinton? I highly doubt it.

Now that she can't win, she thinks she can use her supporters as wedge to get onto the ticket.

Her plan will fail because she assumes these people are loyal to her over Party.
She is mistaken.

[Yossariant]

9. No.

[Lucinda]

10. No. I think she's working to set Obama up as VP

:) But I think she'd consider it if it became necessary.

[woolldog]

16. It would be a nightmare for him to have her as VP

She would cause all sorts of problems for him in the white house. And the ticket would be too vulnerable on the experience/foreign policy area, b/c contrary to what her supporters seem to think, she is just as weak on this issue as Obama is.

[LisaL]

18. No.

[lojasmo]

19. Yes. McCain/Clinton. EOM

[DrFunkenstein]

20. Would Bill Be Allowed to Hang Out in The White House Again?

I know he loves New York (don't we all), but he doesn't really seem comfortable anywhere but 1600 Pennsylvania Ave.

Unfortunately, his wife would only subtract states from Obama in November. Next.

[Iceburg]

24. No -- i think she is offering him first dibbs at VP -- since that would be the

politically correct and honourable thing to do. However, now that he has turned her down in public, she is free to start advertizing that Wesley Clark will be her VP. It was a clever move and good timing on her part as she can distance herself from him over the next 4 weeks as the Rezko fallout begins to takes its toll on the Obama campaign.

[emilyg]

26. Agree.

[joeybee12]

28. Ah, one can only hope...

...we haven't seen everyone rushing to Obama like they had in the past...perhaps the remaining superdelegates are a little worried about Obama's electibility and his ties with Tony and are taking a wait-and-see attitude.

[HCE SuiGeneris]

25. I see it. McCain/Clinton '08.

A very real possibility.

[Nine]

27. No.

I don't think she wants to be VP. I don't think she would accept it if offered. And although I prefer Clinton over Obama, in strategic terms I don't think she would add anything to his ticket. I do think Obama would add strategically to a Clinton ticket. And I think he would accept if offered. But I think a Clinton/Obama ticket would be stronger than an Obama/anyone ticket. I think the SDs will realize this too.

[dansolo]

35. Obama will stay in the Senate before becoming her VP

He will effectively neuter himself if he became her VP, assuming she even wins. If he stays in the Senate, he can challenge her policies, but as her VP, he won't be able to. He also gets associated with everything she does.

[Nine]

38. I disagree.

I think Obama is too ambitious not to accept it. I know his supporters want to believe he won't, but I really feel he will. He can become a part of the dream ticket and be the certain prez nominee in 8 years, or he can refuse, hope Hillary loses the general, and have to start all over again in 4 years.

[karynnj]

34. No - her behavior has likely raised already high negatives

Obama is running on getting away from divisive politics and negativity.

[KoKo]

36. Nooooo....It's all about OBAMA...watch this video and you will see what's going on:

http://current.com/items/88854218_the_democratic_messiah

[Johnny__Motown]

39. She is setting herself up to run again in 2012, and needs to take Obama down first so she can do it

[CyberPieHole]

40. No, I think she is doing the smart thing and touting a "joint ticket"...

but, I think it's probably just politics. Regardless, neither one will win without the other. The animosity is too deep seated and the scars have cut too deep.