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amborin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-10-08 01:52 AM
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Obama's ties to lobbyists....yet more DoubleSpeak
December 20, 2007 Thursday

Aids To Obama Were Corporate Lobbyists

SECTION: NATIONAL CAMPAIGN NEWS

The Hill (12/20, Bolton, Moraski) reports, "Three political aides on Sen. Barack Obama
payroll were registered lobbyists for dozens of corporations, including Wal-Mart, British Petroleum and Lockheed Martin, while they received payments from his campaign, according to public documents."

The Hill adds, "The presence of political operatives with long client lists on Obama's campaign contrasts with his long-held stand of campaigning against the influence of special interests."

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MadBadger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-10-08 01:53 AM
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1. Doesnt look like that story caught on...lol
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amborin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-10-08 02:04 AM
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4. more proof of the pro-Obama media that coddles him
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MadBadger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-10-08 02:05 AM
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5. Oh well.
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WCGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-10-08 02:05 AM
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6. Go ahead and Laugh Out Loud when McCain starts bringing all
this up...

If I were Obama, I would want all this vetted before the fall campaign starts out...
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MadBadger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-10-08 02:06 AM
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7. If you look at the date, this was all vetted 2 1/2 months ago.
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WCGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-10-08 02:43 PM
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18. I did look at the date...
And that doesn't mean anything...

The Media was still concentrating on Edward HAircut and his mansion...

You know they can only concentrate on denigrating one candidate at a time...
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stratomagi Donating Member (811 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-10-08 02:09 AM
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8. McCain won't bring it up.
He's got his own problems steering the Straight Talk Express.

Obama's connections to lobbyists would pale in comparison to McCain's.
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WCGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-10-08 02:43 PM
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19. Did that stop them from going after Kerry or Gore's military record
when their candidate had such a shakey "career" himself...
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-10-08 02:44 PM
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20. McCain's fucking his lobbyists.
Please, John, bring up lobbyists.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-10-08 01:58 AM
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2. Dec 07, link, WTF? You simply must do better than that! nt
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amborin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-10-08 02:03 AM
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3. another obama supporter who dislikes history, only lives in the present
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-10-08 02:11 AM
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9. Ha! History, from a year ago? Bwhahaha! Gimme some meat,
pal! And as an Obama supporter, I'm looking towards the future!
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amborin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-10-08 02:17 AM
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13. Bwaaa Haa Haa yourself...a year ago???? try a few months ago
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-10-08 02:19 AM
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15. Why don't you provide links if you're sharing info? It's understood, and
since you've been here for so long, I thought you'd know that. Thanks.
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amborin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-10-08 02:21 AM
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16. the citation is there in the post
i am using lexisnexis and cannot copy links from it
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-10-08 02:22 AM
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17. Then I don't believe a thing you say. Linky means trust and truth.
Have you tried to google for similar info? It could be there. It's up to you!
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bhikkhu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-10-08 02:12 AM
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10. Lobbyists and politicians go together like...well, you know
I don't like it and would prefer a candidate like Edwards, but we have two candidates to chose from and one opponent. All are wrapped up in networks of money and influence. I am of the opinion, the educated opinion, that the least corrupted and indebted of the three by far is Obama.

People in glass houses often throw stones, and a standard operating procedure of any political campaign now seems to be painting one's opponent with one's own weaknesses.
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amborin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-10-08 02:15 AM
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12. yes, but Obama SAYS he's not gonna take $$$ from lobbyists: here's more:

The Hill

April 20, 2007 Friday

Sen. Obama finesses his lobbyist ties

BYLINE: By Alexander Bolton

Senator Obama (D-Ill.) has pledged to create a new brand of politics in the Democratic presidential primary by rejecting contributions from lobbyists and political action committees (PAC), but his fundraising records show that he relies on donors with special interests.
Three of Obama's top fundraisers, who each have raised more than $50,000 for his campaign since January, were registered as lobbyists last year, according to reports filed with the Senate Office of Public Records.

In 2006, Alan Solomont of Solomont Bailis Ventures earned $90,000 in lobbying income; Tom Reed, of Kirkland & Ellis, lobbied for the Seismological Society of America, the Nanobusiness Alliance, and the Airport Minority Advisory Council; and Scott Harris, of Harris, Wiltshire & Grannis, represented Cisco Systems, Microsoft, Dell and Sprint-Nextel.
All three Obama fundraisers have said they are no longer lobbyists, although the public records office has not posted contract termination reports for any of them.

Several other major Obama fundraisers also have histories of lobbying government officials for a living. Thomas Perrelli was a lobbyist for Jenner & Block as recently as 2005. Until 2003, when Obama was a member of the Illinois Senate, Peter Bynoe was a registered state lobbyist representing Boeing and other corporate interests, according to the Illinois secretary of state. They have both raised at least $50,000 for Obama's presidential bid, according to his campaign.
Frank Clark, chairman of Commonwealth Edison, helped lead a $2.2 million congressional lobbying effort on nuclear research and waste disposal in 2000, according to a report under his name filed with the Senate. He also raised more than $50,000 for Obama this year. He played an important part trying to persuade state lawmakers to deregulate the energy industry in Illinois.
All this may surprise Obama's supporters.

In a fundraising e-mail sent to supporters at the beginning of March, the candidate wrote that Washington's special-interest industry is trying "to own our political process and dictate our policies in Washington. "We're not going to play that game. We're not taking any contributions from Washington lobbyists or political action committees. We're going to transform the political process by bringing together hundreds of thousands of ordinary Americans to build a campaign."

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While several of Obama's fundraisers have recent experience working as lobbyists, at least 10 other big fundraisers hold senior positions in companies that have lobbyists under contract or employed lobbyists in the last few years, according to public records.
David Heller and Bruce Heyman are big Obama fundraisers and managing directors at Goldman Sachs. Last year, Goldman Sachs spent $3.3 million on lobbying. The company hired firms such as DLA Piper, Rich Feuer Group, and the Duberstein Group to influence lawmakers.
James Dinan, the founder and CEO of York Capital Management, is another Obama bundler. His company hired Dutko Worldwide to lobby on asbestos issues in 2005 and 2006.
Some Obama fundraisers have obscured their professional affiliations. John Schmidt did not list his employer on Obama's April fundraising report. But a comparison of his name and address with old Federal Election Commission records shows that he works, or at least did until recently, for Mayer, Brown, Rowe & Maw, a firm that lobbied the federal government on behalf of 70 clients during the second half of 2006. Its client list included Chevron, Motorola, Verizon, Visa, JP Morgan and Credit Suisse.

Other Obama fundraisers work for companies that have hired lobbyists to work on issues of the jurisdiction of Senate committees on which Obama sits.
Bill Kennard, for example, is managing director at The Carlyle Group, based in Washington. The Carlyle Group paid a lobbying firm, Ogilvy Government Relations, $460,000 last year to lobby on pension legislation and trade relations with China and Korea, issues that fall within Obama's committee responsibilities. He sits on the Health, Education, Labor and Pensions Committee and the Foreign Relations panel.
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SunsetDreams Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-10-08 02:14 AM
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11. link?
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amborin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-10-08 02:17 AM
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14. the link is there if you want it
it's from lexisnexis and it's not possible to get the actual periodical link
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