Obama sent people in to help Bill Foster win IL-14

[dkf]

"And then on Saturday, Obama provided material help in Bill Foster's dramatic upset victory in IL-14, filming an ad and sending hundreds of volunteers into the district. The Republicans had John McCain campaign for the Republican candidate, yet still lost proving that Obama 1) is more focused on party building and down-ballot races than the Clinton campaign (where was she?), 2) that he could out-battle McCain in the first proxy battle of the season, and 3) that he's got some serious coattails.

Oh, and Bill Foster is now a super delegate and repaid Obama's largesse by promising him his vote."

http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2008/3/10/11748/6707/563/473353

If Obama's volunteers in all 50 states help out the downtickets we could REALLY REALLY wipe out the Republicans. WOW!

[Kittycat]

1. I live in IL14, and thank Obama for helping out.

I also thank the other volunteers and Durbin's staff. But it's true that this made a difference here, despite another poster arguing with me about this the other night.

My biggest concern now is keeping the seat this fall. I don't see that happening with HRC on the ticket.

[Saturday]

2. Right and I'll argue with you again today.

Of course Obama helped but he did NOT win it for Foster as you implied in your thread a few days ago. That's what I disagreed with you about, how you phrased it. We had a great candidate. We had the anti Bush, anti Hastert vote. We had help from Durbin and national democrats. The fact that Laesch ran against Hastert a few years ago and did reasonably well helped too. You take away from our great candidate when you make the win all about Obama. This is not all about Obama. And I also live in the 14th.

[Renew Deal]

3. No one is taking away from "our great candidate"

But why do you refuse to give Obama credit for helping?

[Saturday]

4. Helloooooo

What part of "of course Obama helped" don't you understand????

[Renew Deal]

7. The part where you jump into every thread

saying Obama didn't do that much.

[Saturday]

12. Kittycat mentioned me. I responded. So shoot me.

I didn't know I had to check with you to know which threads I could respond to. Sheeesh.

[Renew Deal]

17. You gave me the same shit on saturday

and you weren't mentioned by name.

[Saturday]

18. So? This is a message board, is it not? But me on ignore if

you don't want to know what I think. Good grief.

[Renew Deal]

19. I see it the other way around.

You can't stand that people disagree with you.

[Saturday]

23. What I can't stand is that Kittycat gave ALL the credit to Obama

for Foster's win (she has since edited her post to be more centurist and even added a few of my points). Again, use your ignore feature.

[Renew Deal]

26. No need to

I can deal with people that disagree with me.

[dkf]

5. My point is that if every Dem candidate could benefit from Obama

volunteers, which were legion in this primary, think of how well we can do!

Especially if all those volunteers know that by electing Dems, they will be helping Obama move this country!

How incredible would that be?

Hillary had to hire people.

Obama people used their time and their own money and oftentimes fed themselves. It was a true people-powered effort.

[Kittycat]

10. I never said he WON it for him. In that thread, and today - I said he helped him.

I have given Laesch credit for his part - and FFS, I voted for Laesch in the primary this time and last time (Last time he only garnered 40% of the vote). I've also given credit to Durbin & the volunteers. But as you can read above. Obama sent in his volunteers, did ads & the call. I believe that made a difference. But no where have I said it's all about Obama. It is about coattails though, and you know it. There's a reason why Obama (and durbin) were called in.

>>>We had the anti Bush, anti Hastert vote.<<<
Yes, and we just barely got that win, and you know it. It was a 4pt spread.

Come Fall, with Hillary on the ticket - we'll have the Hillary Hater vote that you know darn well festers in this area like the plague.

[Saturday]

20. Very clever of you Kittycat. I was going to call you on your lie.

I went back to see you EDITED your post to be less implying the Foster win was all about Obama. Your origianl post made the Foster win ALL about Obama. Now you're backing down by editing. And also added a few of the very points I made regarding Laesch, Durbin etc. Very clever of you and sneaky. You covered your ass well.

[Kittycat]

29. You're lying, and you know it.

All I added was more credit at the bottom, I responded to you that night on it. And again, you know the fact remains that Obama helped, and HillHaters will mobilize here.

[catgirl]

13. Obama did a TV ad for Foster

I'm sure that had a great impact on voters. Give credit where it's due.

[Bad Thoughts]

6. That's the hard way to win a superdelegate

Actually get them into office and win over a seat for the dems, not just ring them up and gab at them for hours. Obama really wants to party to expand.

[WillYourVoteBCounted]

8. great coat-tails

whereas it is expected that Clinton would have the reverse affect.

[Saturday]

25. There were no coattails.

Obama wasn't on the ballot. There might be some in Nov however.

[midnight]

9. Obama sent people in to help Bill Foster win IL-14

Oh, and Bill Foster is now a super delegate and repaid Obama's largesse by promising him his vote."
It sounds like Howard Deans strategy is starting to have a impact on our polititians.

[dkf]

11. Obama's strategy IS Dean's strategy.

Two smart people who have a clue!

Go Obama! Go Dean! Go Democrats!!!

[redqueen]

15. Yup!

:bounce:

[Nedsdag]

24. Amen!

Keep it going guys!

:bounce:

[NightWatcher]

14. which is better for us? (rhetorical question)

A Hillary nom that polarizes the party, not to mention the country....or
A Barack nom that has dramatic downticket "coat tail" wins that help us gain a "super majority"?

With a super majority, we can pass legislation to fix what bush and the cons have broken.
Also a super majority is the ONLY way that health care reform will ever happen.
Plus we will be able to appoint and confirm 3-4 justices to the Supreme Court.

[harun]

22. A super majority has been the plan all along. That is why

Pelosi and Reed never went for impeachment. They knew B*sh in the White House would be the best advertising money could buy as to why people should never vote for a Republican again. Their strategy takes a lot of heat, and they are under a lot of pressure but it will be worth it if it pays off in a super majority. Which in my opinion is what they had to try for. Nothing is going to get done without it.

Hillary as the nom guarantees a super majority will not happen. The Republican turn out will be too high and the disenfranchised Obama supporters will not be motivated by her to go to the polls.

[shraby]

16. By the way, we really needed that seat, why

didn't Hillary help out too?

[Robbins]

21. Remember

This was hasteret's district.A Republican district.Obama helped win it.Of course he only didn't win
It alone we had a good candiate.But,he helped.Obama Is helpful in all 50 states this fall.Of course he won't win them all but Obama can campagin everywhere and not hurt Democrats.Obama was one of the top Campagins for Democrats In 2006.And If Survey USA Is right In their polling and Obama Is Competive In Alaska,North Dakota,South Dakota,Virginia,North Carolina,South Carolina,Nebraska,Florida,and Texas this can be a great year for Democrats running for Congress.

[joeybee12]

27. If he did, that's good, but Kos is a big liar these days,

so until I see it in a legitimate news outlet, I'll just consider this more of Kos' BS.

[joeybee12]

28. If he did, that's good, but Kos is a big liar these days,

so until I see it in a legitimate news outlet, I'll just consider this more of Kos' BS.

[TheDonkey]

30. great news. Big win for Democrats

glad Obama was able to offer some help.