A question for Obama supporters

[jconner27]

Sorry i don't share the same thrill for Sen.Obama as you guys do but I will say if he gets it I will make sure he gets elected this coming fall.

But here's my question for the Obama supporters, if Sen. Obama can't stand up to the heat the Clintons put on him how in the hell is he going to stand up to:

4 hours of Hanity attacking him
4 hours of O'Reilly attacking him
3 hours of Rush attacking him
4 hours of Beck attacking him
3 hours of insert right wing talk show host here attacking him?

Let's not forget Andrew I mean Ann Coulter channel hoping attacking him too. If there's one thing that trumps hope is fear and hate and the GOP isn't running on a shortage.

[Happyhippychick]

1. I think he's standing up to the Clinton heat quite nicely. So I don't buy your initial premise.

[indimuse]

7. lol! right!

HE runs from the press...has refuse to appear on Fox...WHY? He is scared...open mouth insert foot everytime.

[anonymous171]

10. Hillary has no problem appearing on Fox.

Appearing on Fox gives them more viewers and more money. Clinton is THE neocon's democrat.

[indimuse]

30. wow!

that is the lamest! lol!

[Happyhippychick]

29. Uh...he refuses to be on Fox because he has (what's that word?)...

Oh yeah - INTEGRITY.

Sorry, I didn't mean to put this as a reply to you, I meant it as a reply to the LOL thread above.

[indimuse]

32. where will his

"integrity be when he has to talk to foreign enemies..Oh. I know he'll send Michelle.

[anonymous171]

36. Wow. A repug talking point! Hillary will do well with that one against "War Hero" McCain.

[Happyhippychick]

41. Why are you on Democratic Underground? You're obviously not a democrat.

[Hippo_Tron]

39. Because if Fox News is your only source, you vote GOP no matter what

I'm not saying that there aren't independents who watch Fox News but they must have some other source of news or there's no possible way that they could be independents. Obama can reach them through those other outlets.

[polichick]

2. WHO???

[theaudacity]

3. Just today he stood up and said its ludacris for a 2nd place candidate to suggest he be her VP...

I'd say he is standing up just fine.

[NYCGirl]

4. He's standing up very well. NT

[Window]

5. He's doing just fine, thank you.

[otohara]

6. Well That Tells You, They Want Hillary

to WIN!

Let them bash, record turnouts of democrats will shut them up come November.

[jconner27]

11. Here's another question then

Alright if they want Hillary to win, where has been the anti Obama stories before his 11(most of them are Republican state)winning streak? Bartcop had a story talking about how CNN pulled anyone that liked Hillary off their election coverage because the Obama camp didn't like them. As for the GOP wanting to run against Hillary why? They had two chances to beat her in New York they couldn't and they threw everything at Bill Clinton yet he managed to get two terms and he left the white house with an 70% approval rating. Barack Obama this dude could be like Glass Joe from Punchout when the real attack dogs come out and where will we be at? If he can't defend himself then who will?

[tishaLA]

carville and begala were pulled off

not because they support Clinton but because they were presented as neutral Democratic observers, which they are not. They are Clinton supporters; the Obama camp thought that viewers should at least know that. BTW, Carville, at least, has been back on the station, but now he is identified as a Clintonite

[tekisui]

8. No worries, Hillary was the best thing to happen to Obama.

She magnifies what he brings to the political process everyday, by contrast.

[jconner27]

13. If you look at their records

What are you talking about? Their records are the same other than health care of course.

[tekisui]

17. How the game is played.

Obama's appeal is in the way he has branded himself as a positive force in politics. This is how he has pulled Indys and pukes to him. They don't see him as more politics-as-usual. Whether or not he will change the actual nitty-gritty workings, he is respected.

Hillary cannot brand herself that way. She has history and is well known. She entered this race with "high negatives" and, IMO, has increased them.

Again, I am talking about the *perception* of how each of them play the game, not votes or policy. They are each getting a shit load of votes. Had they not been facing each other, I don't see it playing out that way. Obama is the anti-Hillary, and Hillary is the anti-Obama.

[TheDoorbellRang]

38. Their positions are similar, but their modus operandi is completely different

Just one example in which their touted similarities are anything but: they are both considered to be bipartisan by many. Obama's idea of bipartisanship includes working with the other side on issues that are core values for all Americans: eg., the joint bill he co-sponsored with Senator Coburn for ethics reform. Hillary's idea of bipartisanship involves cheering on items such as the flag burning amendment. Not quite the same thing.

Frankly, her campaign methodology has turned me from a voter who did not prefer her last fall to a voter who will be physically ill if I have to pull the lever for her this fall.

[SKKY]

9. Let them keep talking. The more THEY talk, the better Obama looks...

....the RW side of the media hasn't figured that out yet.

[EmperorHasNoClothes]

12. You could ask the same question of any candidate

Thanks for your concern, though.

[Dark]

14. How can Hillary, who's losing to a relative newcomer, who hasn't even attacked her on 90% of her

negatives, survive that deluge?

And no, she didn't stand up to it for 35 years. Running in New York is about as contested as Bush running in Texas.

[jconner27]

18. You mean like Obama running against Alan Keyes?

Both of them are the same, I prefer to have someone I know won't allow themselves to be swiftboated.

[snappyturtle]

26. Well, IL must be happy with its choice....he won the primary. nt

[Whisp]

15. he's standing up just fine, just because he's not

flinging shit back of the Clinton calibre doesn't mean he isn't.

I know the Hillary camp would Love for him to come down to their snake belly level and prod and poke and provoke him to crack, but he's not going to. It's not his nature.

He is a fine upstanding young man. :)
and this is driving THEM CRAZY.

[Mz Pip]

16. He's ahead

so the premise that Obama is somehow not standing up to Clinton's heat is specious at best.

[jconner27]

22. It's easy when someone fights your fights

He's not, at best he's using RNC talking points to push the Clintons back and that only works on people that were going to vote for him anyway.

[Mz Pip]

23. There seem to be

a lot of people who were going to vote for him anyway then.

[pdxmom]

19. He's already doing that. You haven't been listening to RW radio

lately, have you? It's been a drumbeat since Super Tuesday.

[cooolandrew]

20. He stands up perfectly well in these clips..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qgvJVfcyK9s

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x6ItzF78vbM&feature=user

[OzarkDem]

21. His poor wife won't last a week

[Hepburn]

42. His wife is not running for POTUS....

...as is Hillary's husband.

[Swamp Rat]

24. You ain't seen nuthin' yet! The Spitzer scandal has opened the can of worms a bit early, but

they are warming up the 'Monica Lewinski' club right now. If she wins the nomination, they'll beat Hillary with it all the way to November.

[izzybeans]

25. Can you provide evidence that he has somehow fallen down?

[TheWraith]

27. You do realize that he's WINNING, right? And winning handily.

Flip it around. If Clinton is being beaten like this by someone who's supposedly a know-nothing political lightweight, what chance does she have against the Republicans?

The answer in both cases: Obama's a hell of a lot tougher than people give him credit for.

[Catherina]

28. He'll be fine

McCain's Advisor already announced he'd quit if they decided to go with a nasty campaign against Obama. Obama's the kind of stand-up guy most decent and intelligent people can relate to. And he's very charming to boot.

I don't think a McCain Obama contest would be nearly as dirty as a McCain Hillary ticket.

[peaches2003]

31. It's hard to rebut Hillary because

her statements are so off the wall and so out of touch with reality that what can one say except to recommend a good psychiatrist and rest home. What the hell is she going to do if and when she doesn't get the nomination? She has spent her whole adult life working for this and allowing herself to be publically humiliated by Bill over and over just to be in the WH on her own. She can't even handle a few primary losses.

[jconner27]

40. Falling on the side of Krugman and Wilson of Hillary v. Obama

I look at the two and I personal feel that Sen.Obama is the weakest of the two for the fact if he can't stand up for himself all the yes we can speech won't matter.

[Hepburn]

43. So........

...if he supposedly cannot stand up to her, how do you explain that he is beating her ~~ even with her using Rethug tactics against him.

:shrug:

[Blue-Jay]

33. False premise.

"if Sen. Obama can't stand up to the heat the Clintons put on him"....

If you can give some examples of how Sen Obama hasn't "stood up" to the various attacks by the Clinton campaign, then your question *might* deserve a response.

[DevonRex]

34. He just isn't stooping to her level.

But he's standing up for himself just fine, thank you.

[NMMatt]

35. He is standing up quite well

I suppose since Clinton is now firmly on the RW fear and hate side of the argument, this is a good preview of whats to come. It's unfortunate, however, that we get the fear and hate arguments coming from the supposed Democrats. Of course the Clintons have always been Democrats in name only - the only party they are loyal to is their own quest for power.

[Skidmore]

37. He's doing just fine, and standing up to the RW machine while

he's at it.

[ellisonz]

44. lol

you try too hard

[against all enemies]

45. it's one thing when the enemy attacks but an allie's attack is so devious.

[JerseygirlCT]

46. I'm not sure why you think he can't stand up to the stuff Clinton is throwing?

I think he's handling it nicely, actually. I surely hope he doesn't feel he has to stoop to the same level in order to be seen as standing up to it.

He remains ahead in delegates and the popular vote to date. I imagine tomorrow will be another good night for him.

He can take it just fine.

[Johnny__Motown]

47. straw man argument...of course he can stand up to that. He stands up to 2 Clintons McCain and Bush

Plus all the e-mail crap and the middle name crap already.

The problem is that when a fellow dem does it then it "legitimizes" the point, even when it is false.


Like this one

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RZsYWiywdCA&feature=related



I have a question for you...

Why is Hillary so far behind in this contest if she is the better candidate?