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Truth2Tell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-10-08 04:47 PM
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Hillary tried to derail Nixon Impeachment
In a new article at Accuracy in Media former House Judiciary Committee General Council Jerry Zeifmann questions weather Hillary Clinton was really on impeachment team, or if she was serving some other agenda:

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After hiring Hillary, Doar assigned her to confer with me regarding rules of procedure for the impeachment inquiry. At my first meeting with her I told her that Judiciary Committee Chairman Peter Rodino, House Speaker Carl Albert, Majority Leader Tip O'Neill, Parliamentarian Lou Deschler and I had previously all agreed that we should rely only on the then existing House Rules, and not advocate any changes. I also quoted Tip O'Neill's statement that: "To try to change the rules now would be politically divisive. It would be like trying to change the traditional rules of baseball before a World Series."

Hillary assured me that she had not drafted, and would not advocate, any such rules changes. However, as documented in my personal diary, I soon learned that she had lied. She had already drafted changes, and continued to advocate them. In one written legal memorandum, she advocated denying President Nixon representation by counsel. In so doing she simply ignored the fact that in the committee's then-most-recent prior impeachment proceeding, the committee had afforded the right to counsel to Supreme Court Justice William O. Douglas.

I had also informed Hillary that the Douglas impeachment files were available for public inspection in the committee offices. She later removed the Douglas files without my permission and carried them to the offices of the impeachment inquiry staff-where they were no longer accessible to the public.

Hillary had also made other ethically flawed procedural recommendations, arguing that the Judiciary Committee should: not hold any hearings with-or take depositions of-any live witnesses; not conduct any original investigation of Watergate, bribery, tax evasion, or any other possible impeachable offense of President Nixon; and should rely solely on documentary evidence compiled by other committees and by the Justice Department's special Watergate prosecutor.

Much more at:

http://www.aim.org/aim-column/print/hillarys-crocodile-tears-in-connecticut
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youknowmenotdlc Donating Member (237 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-10-08 04:49 PM
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1. Hillary at NIxon rally circa 1968
Edited on Mon Mar-10-08 04:49 PM by youknowmenotdlc
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DJ13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-10-08 04:56 PM
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2. Hillary has always been a GOP mole in the Democratic Party
She's sided so often with Republicans on issues I can think of no other rational explanation.

Now, because her inevitable nomination is in doubt, she's been forced to strip away her thin veneer of public liberalism and run against Obama like the Republican she really is.
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cbayer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-10-08 05:15 PM
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14. Read the article.
Edited on Mon Mar-10-08 05:21 PM by cbayer
IF she did what this author is saying she did, she did it for the purpose of helping the democratic party win in the next GE. A line from his piece states that only the most left wing democrats supported her actions.

To call her a GOP mole is shameful.

edited to remove statement made ignorantly prior to further research.
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blogslut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-10-08 04:57 PM
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3. meh
AIM is a wingnut place.
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roguevalley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-10-08 05:06 PM
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6. so basically, the rule of law doesn't mean a damn to her, not then
and not now. I can't tell you how much hell I went through with my family defending both of them for years and years to find out they are as rotten and undeserving of it now. what a horrible person she is becoming with all of this coming out. If she had not gone negative, then people would have not come out with their experiences. she has only herself to blame.
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terrya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-10-08 05:01 PM
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4. Accuracy in Media is a right wing organization.
:puke:
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Truth2Tell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-10-08 05:06 PM
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7. Do you suggest that
Jerry Zeifmann is a right wing individual? Sometimes right wing sites publish true information and sometimes left wing sites publish wrong information. Sometimes you need to think for yourself and assess the information on it's merits. The source site is simply one factor. (Just some friendly pointers on rational thought for you.)
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rinsd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-10-08 05:10 PM
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10. (Exclusive to Accuracy in Media)
Tells me immediately that it is bullshit.
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krkaufman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-10-08 09:31 PM
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29. ditto. take with a truckload of salt. read and believe it at your peril. n/t
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BooScout Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-10-08 05:05 PM
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5. OH FOR FECK'S SAKES
JFC are ya'll all nuts????
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Truth2Tell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-10-08 05:08 PM
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8. Nice rebuttal.
You sure debunked that.
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BooScout Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-10-08 05:16 PM
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15. It's a waste of time to debunk this bullshit.
And you're a waste of time. Oh and I take it you're a Lieberman supporter since you love this guy?
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Truth2Tell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-10-08 05:21 PM
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18. Who said I "love" anyone?
I just think his account of Hillary's duplicity and dishonesty is another good example of the character of the candidate. Add it to the steaming heap.
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rinsd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-10-08 05:09 PM
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9. More right wing garbage from Obama nation.
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krkaufman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-10-08 09:33 PM
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30. No. Just one ass.
But thanks for the generalization.
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StevieM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-10-08 05:11 PM
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11. Stop lying (eom)
x
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cbayer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-10-08 05:12 PM
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12. The article is really hard to read, but
Edited on Mon Mar-10-08 05:20 PM by cbayer
it does seem to indicate that the goal was to "keep Nixon twisting in the wind" in order to assure a democratic victory in the next GE. So, in reality, if she is guilty of the things he accuses her of, she was doing it in support of the democratic party.

edited to remove statement about author which appears not to be true on further study.
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Truth2Tell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-10-08 05:19 PM
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16. Correct about her alleged motivations.
But it does indicate that she had already developed her dishonest political hack streak by that time.

And Jerry Zeifmann is a "far RW thug?" OK, whatever.
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cbayer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-10-08 05:22 PM
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19. I corrected that statement after doing more research.
I regret calling him that. It was wrong.

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Truth2Tell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-10-08 05:25 PM
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21. Fair enough,
and I agree that AIM is a lame ass RW site. But this account rings true to the McHillary we all know and love. I'd like to learn more.
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Bucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-10-08 05:13 PM
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13. Oh pulease!
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Hoof Hearted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-10-08 05:19 PM
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17. How do you fly with two right wings like that?
Your source is shit, and so is your post.
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Truth2Tell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-10-08 06:54 PM
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28. sticks and stones.
Hillary lies, and she's destroying the Party.
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MagsDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-10-08 05:25 PM
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20. AIM is a rethug organization -- why are BO supporters always
climbing on the rethug bandwagon? There is a reason rethugs would prefer Obama against McCain. They know McCain will beat him.
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Truth2Tell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-10-08 05:28 PM
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23. Who says I'm a BO supporter?
I'm an uncommitted delegate in my home state right now. And everyone knows the RePigs are dying to face Clinton. They just helped hand her Ohio ferchissakes!
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ElsewheresDaughter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-10-08 05:34 PM
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26. you're full of it... read from the Houston Chronicle especially the last 2 paragraphs........
Edited on Mon Mar-10-08 05:35 PM by ElsewheresDaughter
http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/politics/5569829.ht..


An American Research Group poll released Monday showed Obama leading Clinton, 71 percent to 25 percent, among Texas independents and Republicans who are likely to vote in the Democratic primary.

There is scattered evidence across the state that some Republicans may be voting Democratic, at least for a day. In one precinct in the suburban Houston neighborhood of Kingwood, where 82 percent of voters cast ballots for President Bush in 2004, Democrats were outvoting Republicans 4-to-1 last week in early voting.

Daron Shaw, a political science professor at University of Texas, said surveys he conducted in two state legislative districts in the Dallas-Fort Worth area revealed that almost a quarter of voters with a history of voting in GOP primaries planned on participating in the Democratic primary.

With the Arizona senator in command of the GOP race, some Republicans are motivated to cast a protest vote against Clinton.

Michael Jones, a 39-year-old self-described conservative Republican who is involved in marketing, said he will cast his vote for Obama in the primary "so Hillary gets out."

But he isn't enamored of Obama, a first-term senator whose experience has come under fire from both Clinton and McCain.

"I just wish he would get some substance," Jones said. Yet Jones said he is undecided about the general election because he doesn't like McCain, whom he described as "just another Washington senator."

Even though polls show that Clinton would be a weaker candidate against McCain than would Obama, experts say Republicans, who have long expressed a visceral distaste for Bill and Hillary Clinton, want to prevent her from being on the ballot in November.

"The argument I've seen is, 'Let's get rid of Clinton once and for all,' " said Ralph Bordie, who conducts the IVR Poll in Texas.

Bordie's latest statewide poll released last week found that 15 percent of Texas Republicans who said they will support the GOP nominee in November plan nonetheless on voting for Obama next week.

Debi McLoughlin, a 52-year-old Department of Public Safety worker who was waiting while her daughter had her hair cut, said she usually supports Republicans. But she is likely to declare herself a Democrat so she can choose Obama.

"A vote for Obama is a vote against Hillary," said McLoughlin. She may also vote for Obama again in the general election because she thinks the 71-year-old McCain is too old.

Across the street having lunch at Maxine's restaurant, Dot Berkner, a Republican, said she will check the polls right before the primary, and if Clinton is ahead, she will vote in the Democratic primary.

"I don't want her in the final choice," said Berkner, who added she will vote for McCain in the general election.

Josh Earnest, an Obama spokesman, said the campaign had done less in Texas than elsewhere to target Republicans and independents because of the size of the state and short time before the primary.

Nevertheless, he said, "what we've seen in the previous primaries and caucuses — beginning in Iowa — is that Republicans and independents have voted in record numbers for Barack Obama, because they too are hungry for change in Washington."

A Clinton campaign spokesperson did not return a phone call or e-mail.
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ElsewheresDaughter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-10-08 05:30 PM
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24. nextt they'll be posting crap from "Focus on The Family" and PNAC itself
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Truth2Tell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-10-08 05:31 PM
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25. And next McHillary will be the Repug VP. nt
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ElsewheresDaughter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-10-08 05:37 PM
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27. oy...please save your two remaining brain cells for breathing
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ElsewheresDaughter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-10-08 05:25 PM
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22. are you on fucking drugs?!?! AIM is a disgusting RWingnut group...get outta here!
Edited on Mon Mar-10-08 05:26 PM by ElsewheresDaughter
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krkaufman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-10-08 09:35 PM
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31. RW media sources generally require LARGE DISCLAIMERS in the OP. n/t
Edited on Mon Mar-10-08 09:36 PM by krkaufman
(it's most uncool necessitating that I spend any time defending Hillary)
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cooolandrew Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-10-08 09:39 PM
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32. It's all becoming crystal clear, isn't it. nt
Edited on Mon Mar-10-08 09:40 PM by cooolandrew
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