When Obama loses the General Election to McCain...

[styersc]

...do you think the Democratic Legislature will finally have the guts to pull finances from the Iraq War??

[buff2]

1. No

They will give the old warmonger anything he wants......just like they did bu$h.

[peacebird]

2. when Hillary LOSES to McCain the "Democratic Leadership" in the Congress will suck up to McCain

just like they currently suck up to Bush

[azmouse]

3. At least you are admitting that Obama has the nomination...

It's a small step in the right direction. Now realize that he'll beat McSame.

[Medusa]

12. Pssst. Be easy on the Hillbots-they are in the bargaining stage

they'll get to the full acceptance stage later. :evilgrin:

[azmouse]

13. You're correct. One step at a time.

The world of reality can be difficult for some. :hi:

[TheDeathadder]

21. Pssst

How's the weather over at Camp Rezko :)

Oh man you're right telling jokes are fun

[Gore1FL]

25. A little dryer than at camp Spitzer...

[TheDeathadder]

37. so you admit camp Rezko is further in hell

than Camp Spitzer.

[Gore1FL]

45. It was actually a gross-out joke

I states on another thread that neither of these issues should affect either campaign in a meaningful way.

[TheDeathadder]

67. how could it?

people aren't stupid and know rambling rhetoric.

[Tesha]

46. 'Bout the same as it is over the Whitewater Development Corporation.

Remember that one? It brought down a Presidency.

Tesha

[snooper2]

51. :)

:rofl:

[Bobbieo]

4. I would hope by that time they would have enough majority in Congress to override McCain's veto.

[applegrove]

5. Obama nor Clinton will loose to McCain. Either one will win. Cause

Democrats are MOTIVATED! The election turnout could be 70% (my guess). And that means the democratic base will finally show up to vote.

How dare you imply that either of our nominees will tank! (and Applegrove flounces away)

[Bobbieo]

7. Because DU does not trul;y represent the Democratic Party!

I've seen this happen in '68 and '72 when the radicals took over.

[Moochy]

52. There goes the neighborhood!

right?

It's so fucking "Radical" to not want 4 more years of two family rule...

[dionysus]

57. can you bots get it straight?

how can he be a GOP plant, a DLC stooge, or a radical librul simulaneously?

get your talking points straight...

[MagsDem]

19. I don't think so

Polls show, and exit polls bear out that 20% of dems will not vote for Obama. I don't see how he wins given that.

[Bake]

30. Apparently you missed the "I WILL WALK AWAY" thread.

Seems the Obots will take their little red wagons and go home to sulk unless their guy gets the nom.

Bake

[Arkansas Granny]

50. Yep. I realize the there are many more Obama supporters here now

than Clinton supporters, but i see a large number of his supporters are saying they just won't vote if he isn't the nominee. As someone pointed out yesterday that means -1 vote for the Dems and +1 vote for the Repubs.

[evolin]

31. motivation

Women are motivated to bolt the Democratic ticket. As I mentioned in another post, the mass exodus will be felt all over the land if Obama gets the nomination....the exodus from the Democratic party in November. Not only women but many men - whole families have vowed to go over to McCain.
The democrats will LOSE AGAIN.
It is sad that after all bad things of the last seven years, we feel more like trusting a Repub instead of McCain. But it is what it is. People reap what they sow.

[evolin]

32. motivation edited

Should have edited. Should read "trusting a repub instead o Oblama" Many WILL vote Mccain.

[DearAbby]

33. That alone has to have the Party leaders scheeeting their collective pants

on both sides of the isle. Americans movtivated in this magnitude has to have them really scared. It is better to have a government that is afraid of the people, than the other way around. The turnout numbers, I am sure is being noted by both parties.

[against all enemies]

6. If you're a Hillary supporter, why the peace sign?

[JoFerret]

41. You are your own worst enemy.

Ending the war(s) will be tough stuff. Does Obama have the will? the plan? the support?

Does anyone?

[against all enemies]

43. Hillary banks on being a war candidate. Cluster bombs and land minds.

She is my worst enemy.

[dchill]

48. Ending war is NOT that tough. Even Nixon did it...

when he was damn good and ready.

[mcctatas]

8. @&%$*(@($%^@#(!@

No one is losing to McSame...Hillary or Obama, we will win, IF we stop this juvenile circular firing squad bullshit! If you can't find it in your hear to support EITHER democratic candidate come November, jog on, maybe the McSame campaign needs volunteers! :grr:

[Bobbieo]

11. He has plenty of them on this forum. Wait until you see one of your post appears on Mc Cain's

propaganda campaign. What the Democrats really think of their nominee!!!!! You guys are feedng the machine!!!

[mcctatas]

15. No freeper food here...

starve the beast, but no, everyone is so fucking divisive and personally invested in stupid bullshit accusations of chauvanism, racism, lack of patriotism, he said/she said republican talking points sewer nuggets that we no longer care about keeping the country safe from FOUR MORE FUCKING YEARS of bushit policy, just as long as WE feel like WE have a corner on the sanctimounious, self-serving, my guy is better than your girl egotastical feces! :grr:

[zulchzulu]

9. Prediction: Obama 55% McCain 42% Others 3%

Grandpa McCain't will be handed a big defeat. I know someone linked with the RNC that fears this kind of scenario.

The Democrats will kick major ass in 2008 if he is the nominee.

[cali]

10. Put down the 8 ball, kiddie

it's just embarassing to watch people make such fools of themselves.

[JKaiser]

14. I agree.. Obama will lose to McCain.

[zulchzulu]

17. ...in a game of "Who's The Biggest Warmonger", Grandpa McCain't would certainly win

:rofl:

[catgirl]

22. Why are you here

to flame?

[JKaiser]

23. Why are you here?

[catgirl]

34. Good answer.

LOL.

[JKaiser]

62. Thanks

[JKaiser]

63. Thanks

[Cha]

16. Where's your fucking

crystal ball, madame styersc?

[MagsDem]

18. Oh hell no they won't

And he doesn't have a fricking prayer of beating McCain.

[TheDeathadder]

20. I wish they would

That's why we voted them in. I support Clinton, but both Clinton and Obama voted to fund the war.

They have the power of the purse. They need to make the tough choice now and next chance they get to stop funding the war.

[moobu2]

24. hell no. Barack will vote to support funfing...again

[akbacchus_BC]

39. What is wrong with you? Do you really wish Senators to abandon

the troops. Gosh, you idiots are a dime a dozen. Now shut the fuck up re the troops.

[LibertyorDeath]

26. In your Fucking Dreams

This is the next POTUS deal with it!!!!!

http://www.smh.com.au/ffximage/2007/11/12/obama_wideweb__470x418,0.jpg

[bagrman]

27. The democratic legislature doesn't have any guts.

[superkia]

28. With the democratic turnout almost doubling the republican...

turnout, how will the democratic nominee lose? Are most of Clintons supporters that close to being republican? Will her supporters jump ship so that McCain can win...just curious?

Same goes for the big state argument, will the supporters that helped Clinton win some big states, switch over to the republican side or just note vote so he wins? More and more I think Clinton is Bush lite because if her supporters are willing to do this it just supports that thought, they want someone like bush?????

[LisaL]

29. There was an exact same argument made in 2004.

But last I checked, there is no president Kerry.

[superkia]

61. I was under the impression that their was some tinkering done...

that gave Bush his victory in 2004? If there wasn't then Americans were pretty ignorant back then and you are right.

I really didn't have an argument, more of a question.


So are you saying that the Clinton voters will vote for a Republican or sit it out so the Republican can win? Thats what I am confused about. Why would so called democrats want a Republican in office?

[GoldieAZ49]

35. read the breakdown in this, it explains well the fight ahead

which really makes be wonder why so much energy is being expended now

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/election_20082/2008_presidential_election/42_want_mccain_to_answer_3_00_a_m_phone_call

[bagimin]

36. Do the peoples want change? It seems so.

Is that McCains bag? Not so much.

[akbacchus_BC]

38. No, Obama will not lose to McCain. Give it a rest!

[Perry Logan]

40. For some reason, Democrats love to predict their own defeat. It's a quirk of ours.

[Carrieyazel]

54. Many Dems confidently predicted a Kerry victory, And it didn't happen.

[Occam Bandage]

59. Therefore we will never win an election ever.

[Skidmore]

42. He won't lose.

If Hillary is the candidate, though, she will lose and so will the nation.

[Carrieyazel]

56. He's got a rough road to hoe. These aren't going to be Democratic primaries/caucuses in Nov.

I think he has a small chance to beat McCain, but doesn't have enough national crossover appeal to get it done.

[JustABozoOnThisBus]

44. When Obama wins the GE (or Hillary wins the GE) ...

will anyone pull finances from the Iraq war?

I hope so, but I have my doubts.

[Milo_Bloom]

47. You do realize pulling funding accomplishes nothing, right?

[helderheid]

49. The polls I see say he beats McCain but Hillary loses to him.

:wtf: :shrug:

[Carrieyazel]

53. Polls are all over the map, but Obama beating McCain would take a minor miracle.

His road to 270 is next to impossible. Many DINOs may crossover to McCain; McCain has the RINO vote locked up, and most centrist and conservative-leaning Indeps in places like Ohio will go to McCain.

[AtomicKitten]

55. When Obama wins the White House and the Clintons dismissed to the dustbin of history ...

[JorgeTheGood]

58. if McCain wins as big as it now appears he will

the dems will no longer have control of either the senate or house. Math is math.

[Moochy]

60. There you go with that Rovian/HRC New Math

[Carrieyazel]

64. There won't be any coattails. The Repuke candidates down the ticket are pathetic

And sometimes voters do separate the presidential race and the other races.
When Bill Clinton won, Dems lost 10 seats in the House as I recall.
Dems will gain seats this year in both houses even with a McCain win.

[JorgeTheGood]

66. half of the dems are staying home ...

which half depends on who gets the nomination.

YOU do the math ... rotf

[McCamy Taylor]

65. He will blame it on Clinton's penis.