Do You Like Obama or Just Really, Really, Really Hate Clinton?

[QC]

Sometimes it's very hard to tell.

[Spider Jerusalem]

1. One doesn't preclude the other, you know.

I like Obama, and I've never cared much for either Clinton.

[RBInMaine]

2. LIKE Obama and time for NEW leadership. Same can be said

for Hillary people: do you really like her, or is it mainly because she is a woman? Trust me, MANY of the Hillary people are voting GENDER only !

[Yes We Did]

15. Isn't funny how they get to have it both ways?

If you support Obama, they call you a sexist, but aren't they doing the same thing?

There is a reason she has so many woman voters. And it's not just her stance on the issues.

[jaybeat]

59. Huh?

Obama gets 90+% of the African-American vote, and nobody blinks.

But if anyone suggests women *might* want to give Clinton another look, then its'

GOD HELP US! HILLARY THINKS WOMEN SHOULD VOTE FOR HER JUST BECAUSE SHE'S A WOMAN!!!

The double standard is oh, so clear.

Sexism? Eh, whatever. Boys will be boys 'n all that...

Racism? You goin' straight to hell!! Bill's a racist! Hillary played the race card!! Fire!! Fire!! Fire!!

[scheming daemons]

3. Not mutually exclusive ideas

...

[MH1]

67. and gets less exclusive as Hillary continues her futile campaign

the only purpose of which, can be to tarnish Obama in the vain hope that the SDs will turn to her, in which case she will be thoroughly trounced in November.

[Skittles]

4. they hate Hillary more than they love Obama

absolutely

[AZBlue]

Who's they?

[Skittles]

30. the BOTS n/t

[AZBlue]

38. Define bots

[Skittles]

40. PEOPLE WHO LOVE HATE HRC MORE THAN THEY LOVE OBAMA N/T

[AZBlue]

48. Ohhhhh, you're one of those.

The factually-challenged. Gotcha.

[earthlover]

26. "they"=the first word of prejudice

[AZBlue]

39. Prejudice, ignorance and arrogance.

I'm seeing a bit of all three here...

[Armstead]

51. That's me! I make no bones about it ....except the word "hate"

I don't "hate" Hillary, but I dislike her intensley.

I like Obama, but not as much as I dislike Hillary.

Mea Culpa.

[yewberry]

5. I don't hate Clinton.

I just prefer Obama. I suspect most posters don't hate the opponent of their choice, either.

And sometimes it is hard to tell, from both sides.

[Droopy]

6. I'm not too fond of either of them

I just think Obama is a slightly better candidate.

[JimGinPA]

7. I Used To Like Obama Better - The Stench From The Clinton Campaign Has Totally Repulsed Me...

I cringe every time I hear her voice now.

[earthlover]

31. Hillary supporters turned me off last Spring/Summer with their arrogance

Didn't support Obama until much later, because I was cheering for other candidate. Obama seemed like a breath of fresh air compared to Hillary and her Herd. I gradually grew to like Obama. Thanks, Hillary Herd!

[Catherine Vincent]

70. So how do you feel about Obama supporters and their arrogance?

[wileedog]

8. I like Obama

I didn't truly start hating Clinton until she proved she was willing to tear down anything and anyone to get her coronation. Before that it was merely a question of candidates.

She chose this route, BTW. You can't get into the mud and not expect to get very dirty.

[ScreamingMeemie]

9. Me? I don't like either of them and their supporters have made it

worse. I have focused what energy (basically money) I have on local grassroots candidates. I gave up hoping for true representation on a national level this time around. They're the same person and equal more of the same. I am sorry Obama/Clinton supporters, your candidate doesn't "do it" for me. Neither one is a breath of fresh air, neither one speaks "change" to my head and heart. I'll stick with the little Dems and hope, a few years from now, progressive will finally reach the upper levels. Thank you.

[QC]

12. That's pretty much my position. I was never impressed with either one, but

now their supporters' antics here have shifted me into more or less active dislike. I'll vote for the nominee, but it will be with about as much joy in my heart as when I voted for Dukakis.

[DRoseDARs]

33. Edwards was my second choice and got my vote in the second round after Kucinich failed the 15% mark

...in my precinct. Our new Edwards group passed the Clintonites by one vote in round two, but the Obama crew was untouchable by a large margin. Yet Hillary took Nevada. Ce la vie.

Anyhoo, isn't it lovely how both Edwards and Kucinich have pretty much dropped off the face of the Earth (at least as far as the US MSM is concerned)? :(

[QC]

35. In the eyes of the corporate media, they never existed. n/t

[ScreamingMeemie]

41. And we are stuck with...well...with this...

:puke:

[Caria]

10. I really, really, really like Obama!

I like Clinton too, but lately I am disappointed in her.

[Hawkeye-X]

11. I like em both..

But I wouldn't want to have beer with Hillary - I'd rather have beer with Will Pitt.

I'll just nod and acknowledge Hillary, that's all. I don't hate her, I just dislike her behavior - it's like having a friend who has a very very bad temper and you're just distancing yourself from one.

Anecdote here:

I have not seen this friend for move than 20 years, and suddenly she appeared in an invitation to a club for drinks and dancing. I contacted her because we were good friends, but I have certain things from her that is permanently marked in my life (a scar on my face, for one - she had incredibly bad temper). So I met with her (with wife present, of course) in a public place. We talked for about 3 minutes, then I walked away. Later I hear from a friend who also organized this party that she stole her car keys and nearly got into a fight with a couple of men. I knew at this point that I am distancing myself from her.

This is the same way. I met Bill Clinton, and I like him very much, but now I am distancing myself with him and his wife.

Hawkeye-X

[Quixote1818]

13. Obama is just all right with me. Hillary has done a whole slew of things to upset me lately. nt

[Lucky 13]

14. A little from column A. A little from column B. n/t

[Big Blue Marble]

16. Both. n/t

[DRoseDARs]

17. I am ambivalent to both of them. Where does that fit in your false dynamic?

:)

[QC]

18. It puts you in my category--see #12. n/t

[chyjo]

19. both

I Like Obama, and really really really hate Clinton

[Orangepeel]

20. I don't hate Clinton, although I do think she's running an awful campaign

she's hired a couple of sleazebags, got caught flatfooted by Obama's campaign, and is running in a way that, if it gets her the nomination, will hurt hurt her in the general election (and if she doesn't, will hurt Obama).

But I don't hate her at all.

[Hepburn]

21. Both. n/t

[Exilednight]

22. both.

[Hawaii Hiker]

23. I like Obama, but really, really, HATE John McCain

I have no problems with Hillary Clinton, only John McCain, & I'll gladly vote for the Democratic nominee, defeating McCain is all I care about...

[lordsummerisle]

24. I prefer Obama

I really liked Hillary when she was First Lady but not so much since...

[AZBlue]

25. I really really really like Obama.

[Yes We Did]

27. I used to really really really like Obama, but now I ALSO Really Really Really Hate Hillary.

[Johnny__Motown]

28. Both

[helderheid]

29. After his speech at the Dem convention I sat down and wrote a letter to him asking him to run.

[Strelnikov_]

32. Neither. I just think our chances are much better with Obama in Nov.

and that he 'could' be transformational regarding foreign policy.

I guess I 'like' him, but overall, considering the Cat. 5 shit-storm coming our way, I am kind of disconnected. Whoever wins will face disaster, and there will be little they can do, except 'cheer-lead', which is another plus with Obama.


Because, when it comes to leadership, in crises, the delivery of words does matter.


We have before us an ordeal of the most grievous kind. We have before us many, many long months of struggle and of suffering. You ask, what is our policy? I can say: It is to wage war, by sea, land and air, with all our might and with all the strength that God can give us; to wage war against a monstrous tyranny, never surpassed in the dark, lamentable catalogue of human crime. That is our policy. You ask, what is our aim? I can answer in one word: It is victory, victory at all costs, victory in spite of all terror, victory, however long and hard the road may be; for without victory, there is no survival. Let that be realised; no survival for the British Empire, no survival for all that the British Empire has stood for, no survival for the urge and impulse of the ages, that mankind will move forward towards its goal. But I take up my task with buoyancy and hope. I feel sure that our cause will not be suffered to fail among men. At this time I feel entitled to claim the aid of all, and I say, "come then, let us go forward together with our united strength.

http://www.fiftiesweb.com/usa/churchill-blood-toil.mp3

He gets rolling about the 2:40 mark.

[Kittycat]

34. I like Obama, and I'm not a Clinton Apologist

I never felt the need to uplift the Clinton's for their many mistakes. Their carelessness cost us the house, then the whitehouse. They've also thrown candidates under the bus since their leaving, and the result contributed to the clusterfuck this country is in. Not to mention everything good they did do, was nearly all undone in a matter of a couple years.

When it came time to look at my presidential candidate options, Clinton immediately went to the bottom of the list. I dare not even imagine what skeletons are hiding on the library donor list or their other "business dealings" that they've kept from the public. I just don't think this country can handle any more Clinton trauma. We'd be likely to lose it all for another 8 years.

ETA: and the past couple weeks have only proven my decision to be the right one. She doesn't represent the Dem party, she represents herself, and there in lies the Clinton problem.

[IsItJustMe]

36. I dislike Hillary more than I like Obama. I love me some John Edwards, but reality is what it is.

[Pushed To The Left]

37. Obama's my first choice, but I like Hillary Clinton as well n/t

[faithfulcitizen]

42. After sucking up to McCain? BOTH.

[Umbram]

43. Yes or no, did you stop beating puppies today? (nt)

[QC]

49. I only beat them just enough to tenderize their flesh.

There's no point in gratuitous cruelty.

[Auntie Bush]

74. Is that you James Dobson?

[cooolandrew]

44. It's like this if HRC is provoking a response dont be surprised if HRC gets one.

Now his campaign means that he can only say much in returnbut we can. Ive posted many a link in support ofObama and all he is bringing to the table, but I would have to be braindead not toaddress the kitchen sink not only thrown at Obama but al hissupporters.

[Political Heretic]

45. I think that the clintons were one of the worst things to happen to the democratic party...

...I also think that Obama is exactly the right person we need to build the party of the 21st century, to lay the foundation for future, better, democratic presidents to come.

I was an Edwards supporter in the beginning, but I have to tell you that the more I think about it, the more I don't think the country is ready for and Edwards presidency, assuming he was true to his word on the campaign trail. I see Obama as the right person to help shift the cultural climate in America and pave the way back toward a more "liberal" culture.

[Jed Dilligan]

46. I like Obama and have gone from neutral to negative

on Hillary because of her campaign

[americanstranger]

47. I don't hate her at all. She's a very nice woman.

I've met her, and she's a very engaging person.

Having said that, her campaign is the reason that I'm supporting Obama.

For a Democrat, she either has the worst political tin ear ever, or she has no regard whatsoever for party unity and political etiquette and tradition.

I supported neither Obama nor Clinton until last week. Her remarks as regards John McCain sealed it for me.

I'm not throwing my support to a politician who can't see fit to support her own party.

- as

[democrattotheend]

65. Really? That's interesting...

I sort of met her a few years ago and didn't get a great vibe. Her aide was pushing people away who didn't have a book for her to sign. I wanted her to sign my YDA badge but her aide said she would only sign books. I waited and waited to get a picture but she left when there were just a few of us left...I know she couldn't stay forever but there were just a few of us left and she could have taken the time. I managed to get into a picture with her but she wasn't looking at the camera.

Not holding this against her, but I'm glad you had a better experience.

[ContinentalOp]

50. I really really like Obama and really really dislike Clinton.

So the reallys are about even. :P

[Raine]

52. Both

I really really like Obama. I used to really like Hillary then it turned to dislike, then disgust and now it's full blown hate. :-(

[Booster]

53. I don't like or hate either one, but I loved Edwards.

[Basement Beat]

54. I've always been optimistic about Obama...

I don't hate Clinton by any means. Although the recent actions of her campaign is making me like her a whole lot less.

[stillcool]

55. Way back when this all started...

the only one I really didn't care for was Richardson. It's amazing in such a short time how things have changed. I don't think any GOP trick, or any scandal, could have trashed a person and their reputation so thoroughly.

[anonymous171]

56. I really like Obama. Then after weathering Clintons mockery, I began to loathe her.

[Blue-Jay]

57. I can't like Obama without hating Clinton.

Hey, I don't make the idiot GDP rules....

[DrFunkenstein]

58. I Love My Senator And Want Her to Stay There!!!!

Fired up! Ready to go!

[Not the Only One]

60. Both, except I really love Obama

Obama is a breath of fresh air and Hillary is a cabbage fart in my face.

[democrattotheend]

61. I really, really, really like Obama

And I used to like Clinton too, before she started her scorched earth strategy.

[judaspriestess]

62. I HATE Obama and I really really really Like Clinton

n/t

[XemaSab]

63. I started out disliking Clinton

and ended up really liking Obama. :D

[Fox Mulder]

64. The second choice.

But like I tell everyone else, I'll vote for her if she becomes the nominee. That's the farthest my support goes for her.

I don't hate her as a person though. I hate the things she stands for.

[Kitty Herder]

66. Both. But the hatred of Clinton is definitely stronger. nt

[proud2BlibKansan]

68. All of the above

:)

[JVS]

69. Now, or before she started acting like a totally scummy shithead?

A year ago, I thought the top 3 were all bad candidates. I started warming to them all in the fall, cooler toward clinton and edwards due to IWR (although Edwards' recanting on that vote was a bonus for him) Now I am disgusted with Clinton.

[RUMMYisFROSTED]

71. Was 51-49 three weeks ago. It's now 90-10.

Subject to further change.

[SoCalDem]

72. I started out liking Hillary and was excited to think of a woman president

and did not even pay any attention to Obama until New Hampshire.. I barely even knew who he was, and had never seen anything but the snippets of video on tv.

When she started the teary, poor-little me, and immediately launched into an attack on him..and then the media only showed the teary part, I started paying closer attention.. The debates? I am never home on Tuesdays, so I missed most of them, and watched them onliine.

More and more I saw a pattern developing, and after BC's comments in SC, I could NEVER support her again..

I saw Obama carefully treading on race and sex & age, and trying to focus on ideas, and all I saw from her camp was insinuations, innuendos, race-baiting and MPD off-the-wall attacks.. Even through all that I saw a calmness and intelligence in Obama's demeanor. She could not get him to "engage" with her relentless attacks.

That's when I started to admire the way he handled himself..

SHE turned me off to her.. and HE won me over because he's acting like an intelligent adult, and she's acting like a petulant child..

She reminds me of Nellie Olson

[Lilith Velkor]

73. I don't like either of them

I think Clinton would make the better President competence-wise, but policy-wise, both suck.

[bilgewaterbill]

75. I Really, Really, Really Despise Clinton!

[Chisox08]

76. I like Obama

I don't hate Hillary Clinton but I hate tactics and her support of McCain.

[Swamp Rat]

77. I like to vote.

no poll :(

[Egnever]

78. Both, its a two fer!

[mtnsnake]

79. 78% really hate the Clintons & couldn't give two shits about Obama

12% really like Obama and also hate the Clintons

and 10% just like Obama and don't hate any Dems.

http://www.mtnsnake_poll.com

[monomach]

80. Both nt