OK, OK, you got us. Obama HATES his Grandma!

[Bicoastal]

But I hear Hillary has a Great Aunt she's none too fond of:

Aunt Hortensia Lynn Rodham.


That's why Hillary won't move her out of THIS house and into someplace nice.


For SHAME, Hillary!

(Man, GDP got a lot more fun when I found out you could just make up shit to be outraged about...)

[rpannier]

1. Ain't it amazing??!

Who says there isn't a little republikkan in all of us

[Liberal Veteran]

2. That's a nice "zero carbon emissions" house that meets with the anti-Edwards crowd seal of approval.

:D

[MagsDem]

3. Except the info about Grandma Obama living in abject poverty is true

... and your post about HRC is bullshit. Other than that, good point. Seriously, it doesn't bother you that he doesn't do anything to take care of her better? Says a lot about his character to me.

[Tellurian]

4. Maybe Obama doesn't feel that much kinship because it's his step-grandma?

who knows..

[scheming daemons]

6. She's obviously very proud of him.... SHE has no problem with him...

...for you to make assumptions about her living conditions makes you a small person.


But your "HillaryIs44" signature gave that away before now anyway.

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[Tellurian]

33. Your reading comprehension is severly lacking

you can't even admit you were mistaken responding to the wrong post.

Hide the evidence. Have a buddy get it deleted..

:rofl:

[Catherina]

22. I don't know. What unbiased fact-checking has Hillaryis44

been doing on "Bambi's" "kinship because it's his step-grandma"? Please share. I love the racist memes they catalog and spread from there.

[scheming daemons]

5. Pathetic......

A) the Obama's are the only candidates in this race that AREN'T millionaires. They've released their tax returns, so we know.


B) He's not LEGALLY ALLOWED to use campaign funds for his own personal gain, or to help his grandma. And you know it.


C) Who are you to FUCKING JUDGE whether his grandma is living in "abject poverty"? You have no idea what the standard of living is in Kenya.


D) She is obviously VERY PROUD of him and has no ill will about her life situation... SHE doesn't feel poor... who the fuck are you to say she does?



You are a pathetic human being. Now we're at the point of attacking grandma's, Hillbots? Have you no shame anymore?

[mckeown1128]

20. You can't expect Hillary supporters to look at reality...

To them someone being from a 3rd world country means they are poor and helpless. Talk about the ugly Americans. Grandma Obama has a right to live as she wants. I highly doubt someone runnin for president would be stupid(from even a political point of view) to starve their own grandmother.

[Catherina]

26. That's next week's meme

Hillary's campaign Advisor, Roger Altman, will probably have that one on the front page of his tabloids The Enquirer and The Globe next week. Last week he ran the front page stories (complete with artwork) "Obama Has Ties to Muslim Terrorists" and the discredited Larry Sinclair gay lover story. But Samantha Power was forced to resign over the word monster :shrug: The guys from Hillaryis44 will let us know when Altman tries that story.

[Tellurian]

34. You should stick around a little longer..

Obama is easy fodder for the GOP attack machine. I suppose if you were looking for water, you would be excavating in the desert.

[Catherina]

23. The answer to the question in your last sentence

is contained in the question. :)

[Bicoastal]

7. Well, gee Wally, how come you don't hear that argument coming from

GRANDMA OBAMA HERSELF?

Admit it--you yourself care nothing for this woman or how she lives. You saw a picture of her village in Africa and went, AHA! Smeartime for Hillary!

[anamandujano]

9. She's come to terms with his benign neglect.

[Bicoastal]

10. And has stated as much in a series of glowing interviews.

Look, you guys simply aren't going to win this one. It's over. Find a new trashcan to sniff around in.

[anamandujano]

12. I just noticed that this is one of your stellar threads. Gosh.

[Bicoastal]

13. Yeah, I'm pretty pleased with it myself.

[Catherina]

28. anamandujano, the only benign neglect in this thread

is the neglect of intellect the HRC supporters in it are showing.

Maybe these guys can help.

[SoCalDem]

32. Are you her penpal?

She probably lives the way she's always lived and does not really want a 60" plasma TV and a front loading Maytag..

Does she have electricity?
Do ANY people in her village?

Old people are persnickity.. they often don't WANT to move..

She has friends & family there. Their needs are smaller because they live simple lives.. Maybe she does not want more. I'm guessing he has offered to help her..and maybe he has.. in a way she wanted

If she wanted more, and he refused, it would have been in the papers by now:)

[Catherina]

25. Because his grandmother is a proud strong woman,

the kind feminists like, who would never dignify their sordid curiosity with a reaction.

Don't you love how Smeartime for Hillary always turns into Hammertime for Obama? I'm telling you, HRC supporters like these couldn't do a better job helping Obama win if we paid them in Kenyan gold!

[K Gardner]

8. How do YOU live with yourself? Do you seriously think, in all your HillaryDelusion, that if

Barack Obama had left his GRANDMOTHER to fucking starve, the fucking media wouldn't be all over it? You think, in all your highhanded bullshit prowess as an INTERNET guru of HillTruth, you have uncovered the REAL dirt in Obama's past? Are you fucking nuts? Have you seen the interviews, the video, read the articles about her or do you just sit around and think, like Hillary, that if you throw this slime out there something will stick?

Do you think people of other cultures are stupid? Do you think them illiterate and too pathetic to be happy in their own skin, just because you're obviously miserable in yours? Do you even understand anything about a culture other than ours, cultures where people don't sit in front of their fucking computers and lie or try to slander other people and their families? Do you even understand that "happiness" to everyone is NOT a four bedroom, two bath in the stinking suburbs?

Tell me you really believe this stupid fucking bullshit and I'll again tell you how unbelievably ignorant and out of touch you are with the world. And I'll assume you're Hillary's base demographic and the reason she's gotten THIS far.

[Redstone]

15. Uh, K? Can I offer you a bit of advice? There are some people who are simply NOT worth your time

to argue with, and the one you're responding to is one of them.

Redstone

[islandmkl]

16. you know, you can't win an argument with an idiot...

a fool, maybe.....


but not with an idiot///

[Redstone]

17. Do a DU search on "Redstone's Rules" and you'll know that I understand that.

One rule is "Never argue with someone who has the same answer for every question." I think that covers monomaniacal people like the OP.

Redstone

[lapfog_1]

29. That would apply to ME!

because my answer to every argument with a HillShill is to "ignore" them.

And my answer to every Hillary argument from now on is simply "Hillary is no longer a Democrat, she is no better than Joe Lieberman or Zell Miller".

Sorry, she jumped the shark last week with the "McCain has crossed the threshold... and Obama hasn't" speech (and the 3 others like that).

I see a lot of posters here talking about unity tickets and "we need her supporters" and so on... offering the olive branches again. I saw it before right after Wisconsin, and I reply was "not so fast, folks".

For Hillary supporters that read this... all I can say is good luck... if you don't want to support a Democrat for President, feel free to do whatever you want... it's not arrogance on my part, it's just that I view it as the same as desiring the vote of Mitt Romney's supporters or Mike Huckabee's supporters.

It is my personal belief that Hillary will run for VP... right after she is defeated for the top spot at the convention. Her unity run will be with John McCain. You may think this outrageous or unthinkable... but look at the positioning. I give this at least a 50/50 shot of happening. I am not kidding.

[K Gardner]

18. Yeah, first time here today and read that first thing, had a rant. Sorry ! Won't happen again.

[Redstone]

19. We all fall into that trap now and again.

Redstone

[Catherina]

21. Abject poverty? You might want to rethink that.

Please visit this thread for an education but I'll spell it out in crayon first since you've got a singularly bizarre vision of the world.

By Kenyan standards, Obama's grandmother lives in an upscale dwelling. Her home has an engineered solar panel for the lights, a great field for her livestock and a well on her property. Her compound has three middle class houses built from red bricks. It's even wired for the internet. She managed to send her son, Obama's father, to the University of Hawaii to pursue a doctoral degree, an unpleasant fact that seems to have slipped your mind. Dr. Obama was a senior economist in the Kenyan Ministry of Finance. They're by no means considered "poor" and are well-traveled, unlike many close-minded Americans I know, so you'll have to find another excuse to sneer at them.

Not everyone in this world considers themselves "rich" because they're in debt to Enron for powering their homes, to Bechtel for running bacteria-laden water into hermetically-sealed stuffy homes that weaken the immune systems of their children, and telecoms because they need 256 channels of shit to keep their vacuous minds entertained.

The woman is about 83 years old and still leading an active, fruitful life, tending her field and flocks instead of being tossed into a nursing home to wither away playing solitaire all day.

One of the reasons the great majority of Americans living overseas voted for Obama is because he respects other cultures enough not to impose your civilized standards of living well on other people as evidenced by his relationship with his grandmother and village.

FYI, she visited the US and wasn't that overwhelmed with all the plastic bullshit you classify as "richness".

As an alleged feminist, I'm stunned you're not heralding her strength of character and independence rather than inventing petty bullshit that says more about your character. Thankfully she doesn't live in a big fancy white-woman-acceptable house because the right-wing and its minions would be having a field day saying Rezko paid for it eh?

After reading the thread in my first sentence, please scrape together a few pennies to spend 6 months outside of this country and educate yourself. It's mortifying to see someone write the kind of tripe you just wrote and disconcerting to know they vote.

What's next week's meme Mags? Free Barack's White Grandmother? Doesn't matter, we'll be ready for that one too.

Our heritage has too long been disrespected by the children of those who kidnapped us from our homes centuries ago but have no fears, some of us will patiently keep doing what we can to help you get the record straight.

[Hippo_Tron]

27. Here's a video there shows footage of the house that his grandmother lives in

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vePtJsM_X-M&feature=related

I wouldn't exactly call that abject poverty.

[Catherina]

30. Thanks. I'm bookmarking that one

and sending it to the HRC HQs for their Mandatory Hooked-On-Phonix Video list

[cutlassmama]

31. Me either. And her weight reflects that she eats pretty darn well too.

[AtomicKitten]

14. He drop-kicks puppies too.

[avrdream]

24. Right there in the spirit of making shit up! I love it.

(Psssst, by the way, most of the time I tell the truth around here but, every once in a while when I get really pissy, I make up stuff just like you. Don't tell Skinner, okay?)