Obama Accuses Clinton of Using "Republican Tactics"

[WarholPop]

Barack Obama continued to go after Hillary Clinton this evening, accusing her of using “Republican tactics” against him. “When in the midst of a campaign you decide to throw the kitchen sink at your opponent because you’re behind,” he said, “and your campaign starts leaking photographs of me when I’m traveling overseas wearing the native clothes of those folks to make people afraid, and then you run an ad talking about who’s going to answer the phone at three in the morning, an ad straight out of the Republican playbook, that’s not real change.” Read more: http://www.cbsnews.com/blogs/2008/03/10/politics/fromtheroad/entry3923339.shtml

[Joe the Revelator]

1. Damn right it's not real change.

[Cha]

2. Accuse schmuse..she's doin' it..Obama

is stating the obvious.

Good On Obama!!

[LVjinx]

52. Republican tactics like calling Clinton supporters Clintonistas?

Or accusing them of lying when they clearly aren't? Or race-baiting and then blaming it on them? Or trying to drudge up scandals to hurt them with? Releasing an ad saying "Hillary's a liar who will say anything" but then crying foul when Hillary releases an ad saying "John McCain is experienced" because it might hurt Obama's general election chances? And yet anything - anything - Camp Obama does is totally cool and acceptable.

Ever listen to the Ed Schultz show? He uses every Rush Limbaugh term ever coined and, heck, could probably sub for Ol' Fatty any day of the week without his listeners noticing a measurable difference.

[LisaL]

3. I really don't know how someone can leak a photo that was

published couple of years ago.

[ossman]

4. about time. Wake up BO, time to fight back.

[BeatleBoot]

5. Funny Stuff !!!

Rezko's "House"




Obama's "House"




Cry Baby

[SunsetDreams]

13. and that's funny how?

[BeatleBoot]

25. It's funny like...

Really, really, really funny.

That's how.

Funny.

Whiners can't lead.

Leaders lead.

[Exilednight]

35. So you support Obama? .......... Hillary whines the media is unfair.

[Lucinda]

37. Heey! Maybe Obama's state senate records are in all those trash cans out front?

[Hepburn]

61. Obama's new house...

[C_U_L8R]

6. While Clinton supporters quote the New Republic as if gospel

right here for instance....
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x5012735

[styersc]

7. If this man does not grow a set of balls real fast then we had

better get used to the idea of Pres. McCain.

This is a game for grown ups, so grow up!!!!!!

[walldude]

27. Yeah what a moron, thought Hillary wouldn't stab him in the back.

cause that's what "grown-ups" do right? Panic and throw their opponent and the whole party under the bus. Wish I could be a grown up too :eyes:

This shit is getting laughable, watching Hillary's supporters find excuses for using Roves play book, especially after years on DU watching people slam the hell out of the right for the lying, cheap, shitty tactics they use. Now it's ok, because it's "grown-up". And when the right comes out using those tactics again, whether it's against Hillary or Obama, I'm sure all you Hillary supporters will say "it's ok, it's just how the grown ups play.

[Blue-Jay]

29. Aside from rude genitalia references, how would you address the OP?

Are you saying that the attacks from the Clinton campaign are warranted and factual?

[midnight armadillo]

44. Uh, what?

He's pointing out HRC's lousy underhanded tactics. How is that ball-less?

[annie1]

55. srsly. he's smarter than that. he's lucky PA is more than a month away.

[LakeSamish706]

8. So Obama is absolutely right, she has no scruples and will do anything to...

win the Democratic nomination.... (I seriously doubt that she really is a democrat or has ever been one actually) JMHO of course...

[goclark]

43. Is it a full moon or something around here ?

The 25 faces of Pillary's People.

Tears then tough talk then slime then blame game then tears then unwilling to count then reactions to the full moon.

Please elections and Pillary Re-Do's hurry and get here.

[elixir]

9. Much of what Obama refers to has been debunked or is not relevant. The

3 am ad makes an important point that HRC is ready on day 1, a legitimate and relevant point. The photo of Obama in tribal garb was forwarded to a clinton staffer who rejected the emails message and rejected and denounced the intent of the email.

[texastoast]

12. Link? n/t

[ossman]

15. Most people thought it was a McCain ad and he's not ready yet... but dandy for VP.

And then the troll Wolfson says he might be ready by August???? Huh???

[SunsetDreams]

20. lolllll no kidding

[SunsetDreams]

it hasn't been debunked

[LakeSamish706]

18. Yep, and it makes sense that her advisers would use a piece of commercial footage...

from what? 10 years ago with someone that doesn't even support her to run in their campaign? What a bunch of crap!

[sandnsea]

23. Based on what?

List her Day One qualifications.

[ruggerson]

10. So now he's accepting Drudge as fact based

interesting

[SunsetDreams]

24. it hasn't been debunked

[Johnny__Motown]

11. Then maybe she shouldn't be using the Republican playbook....

[Samantha]

14. It is not surprising Hillary uses Republican tactics

When she has over the past few years taken increasingly more conservative Republican positions on issues. She did this with the 2008 campaign in mind, wanting to disadvantage her Republican opponent by making her position on certain issues, most prominently Iraq, virtually indistinguishable from the Republican nominee's position.

In that process, she alienated many liberals among the Democratic base. This was a deliberate decision Hillary Clinton made, to risk alienating the liberals, in an effort to attract more disenchanted Republicans, as well as Independents. Thus it is not surprising those same liberals react to her campaign as they do -- with total disinterest if not disdain in supporting her.

Hillary's calculation was that there were greater numbers of votes to be had among those potentially defecting Republicans coupled with those possible Independents over the number of votes from the liberal pool.

I wonder today how she feels about that pre-conceived calculation. I personally see it as a tremendous mistake.

[Honeycombe8]

16. Yep. When the Repub actually steals Clinton's lines against Obama, that's a clue.

Can you say "rovian"?

[Seeker30]

17. Obama cryin again?

What else is new

[ossman]

22. yeah. He just interrupted a debate to bitch about something. Oh wait...

[Tarc]

19. Coming from the candidate whose supporters use the "Uncle Tom" pejorative

against blacks who support Hillary Clinton, that is just a wee bit hypocritical of Obama, eh?

[SunsetDreams]

26. link ?

[Tarc]

30. link has been added within the text

It is sad that the racism of the Obama campaign has not been given more airtime. Having a cozy media is a lovely asset.

[SunsetDreams]

36. Interesting...

A Hillary backer says this, but yet why hasn't any of the ones that he "unnames" come out to say anything publicly?

Kind of seems like heresay to me, and maybe the reason it hasn't been mentioned because the story didn't have legs.

[Melinda]

49. How is an alleged & unsubstantiated smear an Obama hypocrisy? (actual article linked below)

In re the alleged "Uncle Tom" smear, please read the original article posted at poltico 2/28/08 and linked below.

Cleaver said he did not believe the Obama campaign was behind the disturbing e-mails and phone calls he has received.

“I refuse to believe that Sen. Obama gave orders for something like this to happen. This is a contradiction of the new politics that Sen. Obama is running on,” he said. “My fear is with all of the nastiness, we’re going to have a whole lot of kissing and making up to do as a party.”

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0208/8762.html

Okay, so now that it's clear Rep. Cleaver believes Sen. Obama and his campaign are not involved in this alleged smear, how do you make the leap to Sen. Obama being a "wee bit hypocritical"?

It's very possible I'm just not as smart as you and don't understand how attributing this alleged Uncle Tom remark to Obama supporters makes Sen. Obama a hypocrite... so let's pretend I'm 10 yrs old, and you can explain in to me in a logical and concise way that any 10 yr old can understand, k`?

Thanks in advance for helping me to understand! :)

[Tarc]

58. Pretending you're 10 may be an overly-generous assessment of your competence

Surely your limited attention span remembers the news of Jesse Jackson Jr., another one in the Obama camp, admitting to strongarming black politicians to drop support of Clinton?

In an interview, Cleaver offered a glimpse of private conversations.

He said Rep. Jesse Jackson Jr. of Illinois had recently asked him "if it comes down to the last day and you're the only superdelegate? ... Do you want to go down in history as the one to prevent a black from winning the White House?

"I told him I'd think about it," Cleaver concluded.

Jackson, an Obama supporter, confirmed the conversation, and said the dilemma may pose a career risk for some black politicians. "Many of these guys have offered their support to Mrs. Clinton, but Obama has won their districts. So you wake up without the carpet under your feet. You might find some young primary challenger placing you in a difficult position" in the future, he added.

- http://news.aol.com/elections/story/_a/black-lawmakers-rethink-clinton-support/20080215083009990001

[Melinda]

59. Oooh, personal attack AND a deflection too; wow, you're the best!!

Not.

I'll wait patiently for the poster I addressed to respond, but thanks for trying. Super job, really. :eyes:

[Tarc]

60. Um, you replied to MY post,. That is why I responded,

since your post showed up in my handy little "My DU" section. :eyes: Time to brush up on that reading comprehension.

Shit rolls uphill, darling. Obama knows what goes on in his camp, and Jackson Jr. has freely admitted that he has been strong-arming other black lawmakers. Rep. Cleaver is just a bit naive unfortunately, in his belief that the Golden Boy Obama wouldn't dare stoop to such things.

He can, has, and will.

[Melinda]

64. Better not to respond to posts at 5 am in the morning... so you can't answer then.

Too bad, I really wanted to see you explain that froggy leap of logic.

Peace out!! :loveya:

[Tarc]

65. I accept your concession

Better luck next time, cultie.

[CitizenLeft]

21. it's about damn time.

[slinkerwink]

28. keep hitting at her!

[MagsDem]

31. He's a complete liar

He knows damn well she didn't put out that photo of him, and said so during a recent debate. He needs to quit whining. And frankly, people SHOULD be afraid of electing such a complete bullshitter like him. He's the dem version of Bush.

[slinkerwink]

32. that photo was circulated by a clinton staffer

and she's more like Bush.

[MagsDem]

38. Which staffer, exactly?

If you can't name the person then you are full of shit, just like your candidate, who said not two weeks ago that he wasn't going to echo that bullshit from Drudge with absolutely no evidence to support it. Now he's saying something different? Like I said, he's a liar.

[mkultra]

46. thats rich

coming from someone who supports a candidate who changes stance more than a skateboarder. For nafta against nafta, against FL/MI for FL/MI, signs docs supporting stripping of delegates, claims they are being disenfranchised.

EVERYBODY but a clinton supporter can see it. why cant you. Your candidate is a bigger liar than bush.

Being married to a great president doesn't make you ready for anything but marriage.

[Blue-Jay]

34. Do you READ your own posts?

He said that Hillary didn't put out that photo, but he's a liar because he said that she somehow did do it? (That's what you just said!)

Which is it?

[MagsDem]

39. The OP quotes him tonight as saying she did put the picture out

He can't seem to make his mind up about whether he believes unsubstantiated bullshit from Drudge or not. Her campaign has unequivocally denied it, and if he has proof to the contrary he should present it or stop lying.

[Blue-Jay]

42. I'm talking about YOUR post, Chuckles.

Here it is again:

"He knows damn well she didn't put out that photo of him, and said so during a recent debate."

He said (according to you) that Sen Clinton didn't put out that photo, but he's a liar.....how?

Bonus: Here's the fucking stupidest thing ever posted on DU...

"He's the dem version of Bush."

[mkultra]

47. THE PROOF

is in the statement from drudge. He stated clearly that it came from her campaign.

Like most journalists here in America, hes protecting his source.

Frankly , crappy old drudge has a better reputation than Hillairy.

Well find out after the primary who his source is.

[annie1]

56. "the proof is in the statement from drudge" LOL!!!

[Exilednight]

33. It's not an accusation if you point out the obvious. If it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck

then it's a duck.

[MagsDem]

40. Okay, so which Clinton staffer put that picture out?

And better yet, why is he so embarrassed about it, apparently?

[mkultra]

48. he probably embarrased because he knows that

people like you care about that kind of demagoguery. If you didn't, you wouldn't be a shillbot.

[UALRBSofL]

41. That's ok, Obama is running his campaign

Like Kennith Starr as per how the Clinton Campaign said. Now, after today, I can't wait to see what Hillary will do for a rebuttal, it will be exciting to see.

[directdeposit]

45. But I thought Republicans had "ideas". Don't we Democrats have to have ideas, good or bad?

Because I don't know what the hell was Obama's point in noting that Republicans having "ideas", without criticizing their BAD IDEAS, which were about 90% of their ideas in the 90's.

Hypocrite.

The "ideas" nonsense was an attempt to pander to Republicans, and in doing so, he made no sense whatsoever.

[SammyWinstonJack]

62. ...

:thumbsup:

[DearAbby]

50. That's right......Obama speaks the truth ....n/t

[Frank Booth]

51. But she's trying to destroy Obama's political career for the good of the party!!

If she can't be the nominee in 2008 she will damn well make sure McCain wins in 2008 so she has another shot in 2012.

Don't you realize that Democrats only win if Hillary wins?

[Skip Intro]

53. Would you like some cheese to go with that whine, Barack?

[GarbagemanLB]

57. Kinda like how Hillary whined about always getting the first question? Such a show of strength!

[annie1]

54. not good enough. he needs to hit harder than that. sounds like he's complaining...

it's the same thing hil said right before she went down in the polls. he could do better.

[Buzz Clik]

63. It's good to see him on the attack finally.

I hope she pays dearly for her hideous tactics.

[BigDDem]

66. what a wuss

if he gets the nomination, he'll be roadkill