???????????? Cross the Commander-in-Chief Threshold ????????????

[GoldieAZ49]

"demonstrate we can cross the commander-in-chief threshold"

Those were the words Hillary used when she was talking about the qualifications to be POTUS

My question is for those of you that know your candidate well:

what has Hillary or Obama done, experienced or achieved that demonstrates they can (or have) Cross the Commander-in-Chief Threshold

Please explain, and comparing them to the other candidate does not count as their qualification, they have to be able to stand on their own.

Thank you!

[thevoiceofreason]

1. And what the hell is the threshold?

What does it look like? A steeplechase? A ribbon at the finish line? A great big wall? A glow from a divine being?

[Kitty Herder]

35. They're just meaningingless, but important sounding, words. Nothing more. nt

[thevoiceofreason]

38. Amen

[hedgehog]

2. He refused to be stampeded into a war. By my book, Obama passed a test that

even JFK failed (Bay of Pigs).

[Art_from_Ark]

8. The Bay of Pigs was not a war

And JFK was ready to deescalate Vietnam

[GoldieAZ49]

10. JFK was sending advisors INTO Vietnam - but that is off topic

[Art_from_Ark]

30. In October 1963, he made the decision to start withdrawing advisors

http://www.maryferrell.org/wiki/index.php/1963_Vietnam_Withdrawal_Plans

Once Johnson got in, he cranked it back up.

[hedgehog]

41. Only because at the last minute JFK DID trust his own judgment

and told his advisors, all the wise civilains and military men, "NO!" Otherwise we would have ended up invading a Cuba the Soviet Union had pledged to defend.

[Art_from_Ark]

43. You seem to contradict yourself then

because JFK was not "stampeded" into a war with Cuba.

[GoldieAZ49]

26. Crucial when the lives of our youth are at stake

Calm, deliberate judgement, ability to stand against the popular march of war

[Rick Myers]

3. As far as I can tell, Hillary's advantage is...

she knows where the phone is...

If it's a call at 3am, It's probably for Bill anyway...

[CoffeeCat]

14. If it's 3:00 a.m. it's probably Bill calling...

...for a ride home from the sorority house because he had one too many Long Island Iced Teas.

[lapfog_1]

4. Not to be snarky

but the only real qualifications is that you be a natural born citizen, 36 years of age or older, and win more votes in the electoral college than the your opponent.

[GoldieAZ49]

7. Eligibility isn't the question

[lapfog_1]

22. But there really AREN'T any other qualifications.

Which is why all three candidates are equally "qualified".

Any other qualifications are simply the projection of the voters.

Don't accept the meme that Hillary is trying to push... that years in Washington, or military service, or anything else uniquely qualifies someone for the office. Even buying into the meme allows Hillary to make this an issue.

[GoldieAZ49]

29. That is why I am asking for specifics

spending 35 years in a chicken coop still doesn't make you a chicken

[Johnny__Motown]

5. Well Hillary and Bill both think Obama is ready to be VP and step in if needed..

[Rick Myers]

6. Then he is VETTED to be President!!!

Thank you.

[Johnny__Motown]

34. Vetted is different... to bad you don't know that.... Got tax returns?

[stop the bleeding]

9. Well I think Obama has learned how to wrestle question marks to the ground

There seems to be a few about lately:hide:

[GoldieAZ49]

11. LOL that is the best ya got?

????????????????????????????????????????????????

[Johnny__Motown]

16. It is better than Hillary has, or will ever have

[GoldieAZ49]

20. non responsive - you cannot state one thing for your candidate?

thats sad

[Johnny__Motown]

33. He shows that he can asses a situation and make the proper decision on how to handle it.

Judgment.. yep.. there it is

[stop the bleeding]

18. LOL ok

I'm bad:spank:

Seriously after seeing the last 7 years I can't imagine either one of them having trouble setting higher bars all around for CIC. So I am not sure why this has been made a big issue. I mean really think about it, any non-incumbent president is really walking into a job that they never have done before.


I am Obama supporter.

[GoldieAZ49]

21. I agree, and so am I, but the more I think about it

Strength of character, the ability to deal with pressure calmly

Whatever weakness' could be exaggerated with the pressure, or disappear

There has to be something, for each candidates supporters, that they can point to and say "This is what did it for me"

[Elidor]

12. Sure, you know the threshold!

Bill Clinton passed it after he'd been president for about a year. I seem to recall he didn't have a real hefty foreign-policy portfolio when he was elected. Neither did the Boy Blunder.

[GoldieAZ49]

13. So your saying 1 year of on the job training is needed?

[Elidor]

23. I'm saying that if there is a threshold of experience necessary

Bill certainly did not meet it when he made it to office. He was a successful governor of a minor state. I don't buy "threshold" arguments. It would be a valid argument if Obama had never held elective office, but he has held office for years, easily as long as Hillary. It's a hypocritical argument and the harsh light of hyperbole doesn't suit her well.

[GoldieAZ49]

32. Actually Obama has held elected office longer than Hillary

Being a Governor is excellent experience, because you are running a government on a smaller scale that is set up the same way as the federal government.

But how good of a state gov. is key.

More Gov than Senators have been POTUS

In fact this will be the first sitting senator to become POTUS since JFK

[TheZug]

15. The threshold is merely that you say there's a threshold and she's met it.

Come on, don't you know the Clintons by now?

[GoldieAZ49]

19. Please show me where I said she met it?

I just quoted her expression, notice I left out her saying that she had, because she didn't say how or when

[elixir]

17. It's a tough call and totally subjective. I think Hillary's experience on healthcare

while first lady and working on legislation during her senate tenure has given her an edge over Obama. She also seems to stand out from Obama with her focus on issues, where he speaks in generalities, she provides specifics and timetables. I know he has details also, but, he doesn't convey a sophistication and depth of knowledge in these areas.

[GoldieAZ49]

24. Good, thank you

She is very detailed and articulate, she has given a lot of thought and planning to Heathcare

[Redstone]

25. You need more question marks in your subject line.

????????You think??????????

Redstone

[GoldieAZ49]

28. ?????????? didn't want to go to two line ??????????

Did ya get that I had a question for y'all?

[Redstone]

31. ?????No, those question marks got me confused?????????

Redstone

[Medusa]

27. Biden. Richardson had

I don't even think Edwards had the experience to be very honest.

[GoldieAZ49]

36. I really like Biden, but of all Richardson by far had the best background and

experience, being a Governor and foreign experience from being an ambassador to crisis intervention & negotiation, he is calm, reasonable and had a sense of humor

[stillcool]

37. It's the bedside...

the new goal post.

[GoldieAZ49]

39. beside manner as in doctors?

[milkyway]

40. She says she has a lifetime of experience, as does, coincidentally, everybody.

[GoldieAZ49]

42. True, and she didn't say what it was that crosses the threshold

So what could it be? And who makes that decision?