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theredpen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-10-08 11:52 PM
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Clinton Leading Among Genuine Delegates
From CNN via Google Future:
This is according to a new DLC system that breaks down pledged delegates into the categories of genuine and fraudulent delegates. Genuine delegates are those elected in a closed democratic primary or an open democratic primary with fewer than 20% African Americans. Fraudulent delegates are won in open primaries, heavily African American regions, and in caucuses.

(snip)

"Caucuses unfairly favor Barack Obama's supporters and open the process to intimidation and gaming the system," stated the Clinton press release.

You can read more http://www.somethingawful.com/d/news/hillary-attack-obama.php?page=2">here.
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NMMatt Donating Member (523 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-10-08 11:54 PM
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1. Clinon leads in delegates awarded to Clinton
That will be the final memo from the politburo, i mean Clinton campaign.
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annie1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 12:26 AM
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32. LOL! :D. love it.
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Exilednight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-10-08 11:55 PM
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2. So let me get this straight, unless the vote is 80% non AA, then they are considered fraudulent?....
Are we back to counting AA's as 3/5th of a person?

WTF!!!
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 12:01 AM
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14. it's parody. Sad it's so hard to tell.
Edited on Tue Mar-11-08 12:01 AM by cryingshame
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theredpen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 12:03 AM
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16. Did you make up that name for GD:P or was it kismet?
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 12:23 AM
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30. Its impossible to tell anymore
Clinton is now arguing that Obama is not ready but will be ready when the add him to the ticket.

I wonder if they have an exact time August 17 at 5:38?
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dchill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 02:30 AM
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50. Uh - it's really not that hard...
Sorry.
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theredpen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 08:20 AM
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62. I'd like to agree with you...
...but look at the number of serious responses.

More proof: GDP is bad for your mental health! :D
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dchill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 10:54 AM
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66. And mental health...
is bad for GDP!
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theredpen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 11:15 AM
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67. Yes!
:D
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papau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 12:05 AM
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18. LOL - it is dated April 2nd - cute
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The Velveteen Ocelot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-10-08 11:55 PM
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3. Genuine delegates are delegates who vote for Hillary.
Fraudulent delegates are those who vote for Obama. Any genuine delegate who changes their vote Hillary to Obama automatically becomes fraudulent, while any delegate who switches from Obama to Hillary automatically becomes genuine. It's really quite simple.
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Blue-Jay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-10-08 11:55 PM
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4. You linked to somethingawful.com?
I didn't click. Is this a joke?
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 12:22 AM
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27. It's fake news.
Were you afraid to look at somethingawful.com?
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Danger Mouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 12:39 AM
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36. somethingawful is a fantastic comedy website.
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Lord Helmet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-10-08 11:56 PM
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5. god what a pile of bullshit that system is
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Danger Mouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-10-08 11:57 PM
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6. Nice! Something Awful is one of my favorite websites. Good call.
:D
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-10-08 11:57 PM
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7. DinosLoserClub for
political hacks. Fulla themselves and Shite.
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Speck Tater Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-10-08 11:59 PM
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8. But what about delegates over 6 feet tall?
And how does her count stand with blond delegates?

If Clinton has to keep inventing new categories of delegates in order to claim a lead, she's really grasping at straws.
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TheDoorbellRang Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-10-08 11:59 PM
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9. Better point out that is satire before we get some 'sploding heads n/t
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PseudoIntellect Donating Member (701 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-10-08 11:59 PM
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10. Edit: haha, oh, satirical. funni. So too many black people are voting? And all caucuses are frauds?
Edited on Tue Mar-11-08 12:00 AM by PseudoIntellect
Is there some rule that Clinton supporters can't stand up for what they believe in or convince others that HRC is the better candidate at caucuses?
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housewolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 12:00 AM
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11. Excuse me.... CNN - April 2nd, 2008
CNN - April 2nd, 2008

This is a satire site, right???? Trying to compete with The Onion???

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

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TheDonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 12:01 AM
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12. There was also a link about "turbo" delegates
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boppers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 12:01 AM
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13. Oh my...
From the same page, on Hillary's Pennsylvania win:
"Clinton gained critical support in the closing hours from an ad depicting Obama as a degenerate blood-smeared ape man smoking "hard drugs" while America burned in the background."
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Danger Mouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 12:03 AM
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15. shh...don't give Mark Penn any ideas...
:rofl:
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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 12:31 AM
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33. !
:rofl:
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dchill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 02:37 AM
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54. Where do you think...
THEY got the idea? :)
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David Zephyr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 12:04 AM
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17. K&R. Hey! What ever happened to the Clintons' earlier trial balloon of "automatic delegates"? LOL!
Automatic delegates! How quaint that sounds now.
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anigbrowl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 12:51 AM
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39. They're been replaced with hand-winding models.
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dchill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 02:33 AM
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52. I was thinking...
3-speed manual delegates, with a clutch.
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PseudoIntellect Donating Member (701 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 12:06 AM
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19. LMFAO. PA primary results article is hilarious.
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CitizenLeft Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 12:12 AM
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20. ROTFL!
"NBC Political Director Chuck Todd estimates that Clinton may net between 11-15 delegates in tomorrow's primary. This would reduce Obama's razor-thin-almost-miniscule lead to only 108-112 delegates.


"Clinton has the support of almost the entire political establishment in Pennsylvania and it's a closed or 'Genuine' primary," explained Todd as he rolled his eyes."

:rofl:
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countmyvote4real Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 12:14 AM
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21. Baby, it ain't gen-u-ine. It's fool's gold.
This is how you know:

When Obama is the Democratic nominee one will either support or threaten to support the next most lackluster candidate: John W/Rodham McCaine. Middle names can be such a bitch.

You know that costume jewelry looks great in the dark. Bless your heart.

Ooh. Did somebody take a dump here?
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melody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 12:15 AM
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22. lol - it's those undelegating delegates that getcha every time n/t
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Cant trust em Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 12:15 AM
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23. posts like this are practically the definition of sore loser
let it go.
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olkaz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 12:16 AM
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24. uh, did you even RTFA?
Before you go and act indignant, you might want to realize you got trolled.
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Cant trust em Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 12:19 AM
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25. it's been a long day. I just got home
I'm pretty dopey right now and should probably resume DU tomorrow when I'm coherent. Thanks for bringing me back to my senses.
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olkaz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 12:22 AM
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28. No worries. I do the same thing. eom
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Cant trust em Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 12:23 AM
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29. Must remember. Sleep first, then witty political discourse, NT
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bhikkhu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 12:21 AM
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26. Please "sarcasm" mark this before it gets cross-posted all over the GDP!
Edited on Tue Mar-11-08 12:21 AM by bhikkhu
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UALRBSofL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 12:26 AM
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31. I have been saying all along Obama has been
using these type of issues to splinter our party. Obama is the candidate of false hope and "racial divide". This is very, very sad. I had hoped our country was beyond this but it's pretty obvious were no further then we were during the civil rights movement. I mean, anyone that would post something like this is not right and this post is deplorable and disingenuous. And frankly it should be locked.
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Thepricebreaker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 12:32 AM
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34. Actually she is still losing by about 10 if you simply count plegged dels...
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DemBones DemBones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 12:35 AM
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35. Reading is fundamental. DUers often hyperventilate over things they

didn't read carefully. In this case, careful reading should have tipped everyone off that it's a parody "news item."

"From CNN via Google Future" was one big clue.

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UALRBSofL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 12:41 AM
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37. You know parody in and of it self
Can and is racially motivated as in this thread. That said, regardless of the parody, the racial undertones are understood quite clearly. That's why I found it to be offensive and should have been locked. This voting cycle already has enough of racial tension with out adding to it with racial parody, in my opinion.
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theredpen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 12:44 AM
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38. So racism is so offensive we can't even make fun of it?
Great. :eyes:
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UALRBSofL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 12:54 AM
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40. That's exactly right. I have been discriminated against
all my life. Have been called names I wont post on GD-P and I find it not amusing at all.
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theredpen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 01:00 AM
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42. So... we can't poke fun at the idiots who harassed you?
Edited on Tue Mar-11-08 01:00 AM by theredpen
Is there something that makes them undeserving of ridicule? They were awful to you, but now you would protect them from satire, sarcasm and parody? Why on Earth would you do that?
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Frank Booth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 12:59 AM
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41. No,
We can't make fun of people saying we shouldn't vote for Obama because racists won't vote for Obama. It would be racist of us to do so.
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theredpen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 01:03 AM
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43. I get it!

No, wait, no I don't.
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Frank Booth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 01:13 AM
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44. Don't you understand?
It's racist to bring up race, unless you're bringing up race by pointing out that racists will not vote for Obama, and therefore we, as Democrats, should not vote for him either. That's just common sense.
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theredpen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 01:25 AM
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46. Right. So we should vote with the racists!
Wait, is David Duke even running?
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Frank Booth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 01:36 AM
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47. I guess that's correct,
but I think you're supposed to say it in more delicate terms. I see a lot of Hillary supporters on here saying that, but they're just not so blunt about it.
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theredpen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 01:39 AM
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49. Hillary supporters are voting for David Duke?
Who'da thunk it? ;)
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 02:37 AM
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Message removed by moderator. Click here to review the message board rules.
 
theredpen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 08:23 AM
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63. You had to THINK to come up with that post?
Golly. I'd hate to see a post that you didn't put any effort into!
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Gore1FL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 01:22 AM
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45. Heheheh That was funny
I initially was offended, and decided togo the site todebunk, and then read the articles there and laughed me ass off.

Thanks for a little comedy in GD:P.

I am amazed that so many people didn't click the link.
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Political Heretic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 01:39 AM
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48. The fact that its really hard to tell that this is parody is a SAD statement on what Clinton campaig
has done to this whole process. :(

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99th_Monkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 02:31 AM
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51. When has this EVER happened in the history of the Dem. Party? Anyone know?
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MagsDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 02:42 AM
Response to Reply #51
58. It happend in my precinct - he had at least 15 young kids
voting for him in my precinct that don't live in the precinct. I am sure they are part of the record spending on temp agencies that his campaign has done. They were indeed fraudulent in my precinct.
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 02:59 AM
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60. Who would believe YOU?
YOU never offer anything for evidence of anthing you claim. One stinking pile after another- that's Magsdem's posts.
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MagsDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 11:36 AM
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69. I couldn't care less if you believe me, but it was OBVIOUS here
We know the people that live in our precinct and those kids DO NOT live in our precinct. If that is what he has done across the country in caucuses you are voting for the biggest fraud to ever put a D after his name.
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99th_Monkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 02:48 PM
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72. actually, I was refering to this categorization of delegates at convention level
of being "real" or "not real" ... delegates have always been delegates period as far as I know.

Clintons are aparrently trying to bugger and confuse the process to twist it however they need to
to "win" .. it's sickening.
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bridgit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 02:35 AM
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53. Oh know you di'int...
BO peeps are not able to process info such as this :(
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MagsDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 02:40 AM
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56. Unfortunately she is right - I saw it myself
In my precinct at least 15 Obama supporters appear on no voter roles for this precinct and they do not live in the precinct. It's no coincidence that he has set a record for spending money on "temp" agencies for "campaign workers."

He has got to be the most corrupt person that has run for the dem primary in my 30 yrs of voting.
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 03:01 AM
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61. Another dump
you reported this to the SoS's office, right?
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Greyskye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 11:45 AM
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71. voter 'rolls'. ROLLS

You were working the election I assume to have access to this info. You did notify the election officials regarding this, yes?

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avrdream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 02:42 AM
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57. I'm a Hillary supporter but don't agree with the "heavily AA regions" part.
The caucuses definitely seem rigged. I imagine that poor little old woman at the back of the room supporting Hillary but barely able to even hear the rules because she is partially deaf. If she does finally get the courage to speak up, she is absolutely DROWNED OUT by the youthfully loud BO supporters. Don't tell me it hasn't happened - we have all heard the stories.

That is Democracy? I can't believe we Democrats did this to ourselves.

That same little old lady happily goes into a closed voting booth to check the HRC box. No hassles, no worries for her life......completely anonymous. Now THAT is the America I always believed in.
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johnnydrama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 02:44 AM
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59. also
Clinton leads in votes by 1990's Presidents and first ladies 2-0. This gives her an unsurmountable lead in 90's White House inhabitants.
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high density Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 11:40 AM
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70. More four star generals named Wes Clark support Hillary than Obama
Another insurmountable lead of Hillary's! How will we ever catch up to her?!
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K Gardner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 08:35 AM
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64. That website is a hoot.. had never seen it before, thanks !
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theredpen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 08:41 AM
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65. Photoshop Phriday
I always start my week with the "Top 10 Conservative Idiots" here and end my week with http://www.somethingawful.com/d/photoshop-phriday/">Photoshop Phriday on SomethingAwful. Check it out. :hi:
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rocktivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 11:32 AM
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68. "...a new DLC system..."
:boring:
rocknation
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