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ruggerson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-11-08 07:45 AM Original message |
ABC: Obama flip flops on Drudge photo |
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Birthmark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-11-08 07:46 AM Response to Original message |
1. You know, the new politics of "change" |
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ElsewheresDaughter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-11-08 08:17 AM Original message |
meet the new boss same as the old boss...Obama pulled the same shit in IL |
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Birthmark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-11-08 08:31 AM Response to Original message |
39. That doesn't surprise me. |
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jackson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-11-08 11:25 AM Response to Reply #39 |
73. The problem is he claims to be atypical and a saint |
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Birthmark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-11-08 04:15 PM Response to Reply #73 |
87. Oh, that's just a selling point. |
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krkaufman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-11-08 12:20 PM Response to Reply #1 |
81. Or maybe Obama's just coming around with the rest of America ... |
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WillyT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-11-08 07:47 AM Response to Original message |
2. LOL !!! - He's Flip-Flopped On Taking Hillary At Her Word ??? |
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Skidmore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-11-08 08:20 AM Response to Reply #2 |
36. Yes, indeed. Very good judgment. |
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Coexist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-11-08 12:12 PM Response to Reply #2 |
77. a play on words! |
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krkaufman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-11-08 12:18 PM Response to Reply #2 |
80. Exactly!! She's flip-flopping on the reality of her campaign's VP talk ... |
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XemaSab (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-11-08 12:32 PM Response to Reply #2 |
85. *snap* |
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Tarc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-11-08 07:47 AM Response to Original message |
3. Meet the new boss |
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ruggerson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-11-08 07:54 AM Response to Reply #3 |
8. bbbbbut |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-11-08 08:09 AM Response to Reply #8 |
27. Deleted message |
OPERATIONMINDCRIME (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-11-08 08:20 AM Response to Reply #27 |
35. Wasn't Your God Supposed To Be Above Lies? |
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ruggerson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-11-08 08:28 AM Response to Reply #27 |
37. talk to Jake Tapper/ABC |
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elixir (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-11-08 08:38 AM Response to Reply #27 |
44. Churning up the ol' chum bucket. Here...Rezko, "present", flipflop on war...that should hold you. |
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quantass (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-11-08 07:48 AM Response to Original message |
4. Uuugh, maybe he found new evidence to support that the Photos came from her days later. |
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jackson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-11-08 11:26 AM Response to Reply #4 |
74. If he had such evidence it would have "leaked" to the press a long time ago... |
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snappyturtle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-11-08 11:27 AM Response to Reply #4 |
75. Ditto. n/t |
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bluestateguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-11-08 07:52 AM Response to Original message |
5. Gee big scandal |
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WDIM (267 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-11-08 07:53 AM Response to Original message |
6. Thats not a "flip flop" (nice use of neo-con terminology) |
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ccpup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-11-08 07:54 AM Response to Reply #6 |
11. flip flop didn't come from Hillary |
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WDIM (267 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-11-08 07:57 AM Response to Reply #11 |
16. No the original poster used "flip flop" |
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ccpup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-11-08 08:17 AM Response to Reply #16 |
32. gotcha |
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berni_mccoy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-11-08 07:58 AM Response to Reply #11 |
18. "As far as [you] know" |
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ruggerson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-11-08 07:57 AM Response to Reply #6 |
15. Talk to ABC |
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ccpup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-11-08 07:53 AM Response to Original message |
7. "of those folks" |
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jefferson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-11-08 07:54 AM Response to Original message |
9. Where's the flip-flop? |
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ruggerson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-11-08 07:59 AM Response to Reply #9 |
20. "that's something we can set aside" |
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Arkansas Granny (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-11-08 08:11 AM Response to Reply #20 |
29. The fact that none of Drudge's story has been proved has come up before |
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ruggerson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-11-08 08:14 AM Response to Reply #29 |
31. They can't answer it. There's no proof. It's just an unsubstantiated bit of slander |
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rodeodance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-11-08 08:40 AM Response to Reply #9 |
46. BO believe that slimeball Drudge!!--BO is now part of the RW slime machine. |
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Swamp Rat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-11-08 08:52 AM Response to Reply #46 |
53. "stop spreading dangerous concocted rumor you just made up please." |
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rodeodance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-11-08 09:01 AM Response to Reply #53 |
57. Its BO making the Statements!!---Drudge has NEVER produced the email!! |
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underpants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-11-08 07:54 AM Response to Original message |
10. Tapper is an inside DC MSM whore |
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Abacus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-11-08 07:55 AM Response to Original message |
12. He never said that her campaign wasn't involved, |
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rodeodance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-11-08 08:34 AM Response to Reply #12 |
41. "I take Sen. Clinton at her word that she knows nothing about the photo," he said. |
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debatepro (683 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-11-08 09:42 AM Response to Reply #12 |
65. Good point |
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rodeodance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-11-08 12:24 PM Response to Reply #65 |
83. "So I think that's something that we can set aside." said BO. But he LIED |
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berni_mccoy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-11-08 07:55 AM Response to Original message |
13. "CLINTON VAGUE ABOUT CONTROVERSIAL OBAMA PHOTO" |
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BeyondGeography (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-11-08 07:56 AM Response to Original message |
14. Meet the new bullshit from ruggerson, same as the old bullshit |
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berni_mccoy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-11-08 07:58 AM Response to Reply #14 |
17. DING. DING. DING. We have a winner. |
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ruggerson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-11-08 08:06 AM Response to Reply #14 |
22. Obama playbook rule #1: attack the messenger whenever there is no other defense |
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BeyondGeography (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-11-08 08:09 AM Response to Reply #22 |
26. You lead this board in substance-free irrelevancies |
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ruggerson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-11-08 08:10 AM Response to Reply #26 |
28. I bow down to you in that regard |
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krawhitham (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-11-08 10:50 AM Response to Reply #22 |
71. no defense? why does he need a defense? |
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boston bean (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-11-08 07:58 AM Response to Original message |
19. Well, before he blames her for this one, which is all over the RW blogosphere...... |
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rodeodance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-11-08 08:37 AM Response to Reply #19 |
43. seems now BO=RW |
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mckeown1128 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-11-08 08:02 AM Response to Original message |
21. Hillary flip flops on MI... likes states where her opponets name isn't on the ballot |
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Windy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-11-08 08:12 AM Response to Reply #21 |
30. States where the supers support her. If the state's delegates don't count the supers don't count |
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Zueda (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-11-08 08:06 AM Response to Original message |
23. I read this as he believes Clinton herself knew nothing of this... |
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ruggerson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-11-08 08:08 AM Response to Reply #23 |
25. "that's something we can set aside" |
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boobooday (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-11-08 08:08 AM Response to Original message |
24. Flip Flop? |
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-11-08 08:19 AM Response to Original message |
33. Not Sure Why He's Saying Stupid Stuff Like That, When There's No Reason To Believe She Had Anything |
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rodeodance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-11-08 08:32 AM Response to Reply #33 |
40. BO dis-hononed himself yesterday for the World to see: see this comment from him. |
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-11-08 08:43 AM Response to Reply #40 |
48. I'm Actually Really Disappointed In Him For That. He's Supposed To Be Better Than That. He Isn't. |
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rodeodance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-11-08 09:33 AM Response to Reply #48 |
62. So, do I. He has proven with this incident (many more)--that he will play Racial politics! |
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LoZoccolo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-11-08 08:20 AM Response to Original message |
34. Yeah nothing could have happened in twelve days to make him change his mind. |
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rodeodance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-11-08 08:35 AM Response to Reply #34 |
42. Clinton denied any knowledge of the photo coming from one of her staff. |
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rodeodance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-11-08 08:30 AM Response to Original message |
38. REC |
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BigDDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-11-08 08:39 AM Response to Original message |
45. Is there any proof that this came from Clinton's staff? |
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Occam Bandage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-11-08 08:41 AM Response to Original message |
47. Flip-flop? I don't see any flip-flop there. |
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ruggerson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-11-08 08:47 AM Response to Reply #47 |
50. "that's something we can set aside" |
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Occam Bandage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-11-08 08:48 AM Response to Reply #50 |
51. You'll note that her campaign never denied any involvement with the leak. |
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ruggerson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-11-08 08:51 AM Response to Reply #51 |
52. where's the proof? |
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Occam Bandage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-11-08 08:56 AM Response to Reply #52 |
55. Silly. |
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ruggerson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-11-08 09:00 AM Response to Reply #55 |
56. you're giving me opinion |
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Occam Bandage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-11-08 09:58 AM Response to Reply #56 |
67. "Personally, I think this has been far more damaging to Obama than Clinton" |
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joeybee12 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-11-08 08:43 AM Response to Original message |
49. Oh, but, but, but, but....that's DIFFERENT... |
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Perky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-11-08 08:55 AM Response to Original message |
54. There is a difference between attacking the campaign and attacking HRC in this instance |
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rodeodance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-11-08 09:03 AM Response to Reply #54 |
60. Same effect and BO knows it as do you. BO would not have brought it up if he |
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elixir (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-11-08 09:02 AM Response to Original message |
58. k |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-11-08 09:03 AM Response to Original message |
59. "I take Senator Clinton at her word that she knew nothing about the photo." She's clueless, but that |
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Barack_America (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-11-08 09:07 AM Response to Original message |
61. Foolish. Those are totally consistent statements. |
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rodeodance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-11-08 09:37 AM Response to Reply #61 |
63. Silly comment: BO has proved he will play the RACE card yesterday. He brought |
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Infinite Hope (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-11-08 09:41 AM Response to Original message |
64. "When your CAMPAIGN starts leaking photos..." These quotes mesh just fine. n/t |
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blogslut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-11-08 09:49 AM Response to Original message |
66. Well, it's not real change |
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NastyRiffraff (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-11-08 10:02 AM Response to Original message |
68. I'd like to see the context of the 3/11 statement |
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Straight Shooter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-11-08 10:34 AM Response to Original message |
69. The crux of the issue is that he waited two weeks before bringing this up again. |
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krawhitham (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-11-08 10:46 AM Response to Original message |
70. Maybe his team has gathered more intel |
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Catherine Vincent (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-11-08 10:51 AM Response to Original message |
72. So that's where the Obamanuts here get that "kitchen sink" talking point from. |
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smiley_glad_hands (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-11-08 12:11 PM Response to Original message |
76. Well Hill flip flops on being a democrat. eom |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-11-08 12:13 PM Response to Original message |
78. A lot of people have a hard time understanding satire. |
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Not the Only One (617 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-11-08 12:14 PM Response to Original message |
79. He probably has learned more about this since then |
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rodeodance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-11-08 12:23 PM Response to Reply #79 |
82. Lame---. also you can bet it would be in press |
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AX10 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-11-08 12:30 PM Response to Original message |
84. Which makes Obama like any other... |
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amborin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-11-08 01:02 PM Response to Original message |
86. Obama flip flops on Nafta, the Iraq war, Iraqui withdrawl, just about everything |
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Emillereid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-11-08 04:26 PM Response to Original message |
88. From February 26 to March 10 he probably realized that Hillary's dirty tactics |
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Dinger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-11-08 04:28 PM Response to Original message |
89. Can't Say Anything About This, So I'll Just Give A Simple K & R (nt) |
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