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ElsewheresDaughter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 08:33 AM
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Gov. Cuomo analysis of Obama and the 08 elections
Edited on Tue Mar-11-08 09:19 AM by ElsewheresDaughter
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 08:43 AM
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1. Good girl. Thank you very much.
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ElsewheresDaughter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 08:54 AM
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2. I have a great deal of respect for Gov Cuomo's analysis of the 08 elections
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ElsewheresDaughter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 09:19 AM
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3. shameless self kick
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SeaLyons Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 09:21 AM
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4. Excellent Video
thanks for posting it
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scheming daemons Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 09:23 AM
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5. Cuomo was a great orator and liberal politician.... who has basically gotten...
...everything wrong in his political prognostication since 1984.

He gave a great speech at the '84 convention.... didn't help Mondale much, though....




I LOVE Mario Cuomo..... but he's been misreading the electorate for more than two decades. He should've run for President in 1988 - he would've beaten Bush. But he misread the electorate and thought he had no chance.


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Iceburg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 09:27 AM
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6. Sobering analysis K&R/nt
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PerfectSage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 10:12 AM
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7. I disagree with Gov. Cuomo
Edited on Tue Mar-11-08 10:16 AM by PerfectSage
His arguement boils down to 2 points: change for the sake of change is bad; and Obama is another Reagan.

Without change you don't adapt and America is going from superpower to superpower has been. Obama runs a decentralized grassroots campaign. Hillary centralized. Obama is much smarter than Reagan. I hope he will be the Democratic party's version of Reagan, ie pulling the Republican party to the left through Obama Republicans. In my opinion Obama's just a better candidate than Hillary. If I'm guessing right I think he could be one of the best presidents ever. We're heading into an economic environment where we have the inflation of the 70's and the banking crisis/financial liquidity crunch of the 30's. The ooda loop is broken. It's time for change.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Boyd_%28military_strategist%29

Boyd hypothesized that all intelligent organisms and organizations undergo a continuous cycle of interaction with their environment. Boyd breaks this cycle down to four interrelated and overlapping processes through which one cycles continuously:

Observation: the collection of data by means of the senses
Orientation: the analysis and synthesis of data to form one's current mental perspective
Decision: the determination of a course of action based on one's current mental perspective
Action: the physical playing-out of decisions
This decision cycle is thus also known as the OODA loop. Boyd emphasized that this decision cycle is the central mechanism enabling adaptation (apart from natural selection) and is therefore critical to survival.

Boyd theorized that large organizations such as corporations, governments, or militaries possessed a hierarchy of OODA loops at tactical, grand-tactical (operational art), and strategic levels. In addition, he stated that most effective organizations have a highly decentralized chain of command that utilizes objective-driven orders, or directive control, rather than method-driven orders in order to harness the mental capacity and creative abilities of individual commanders at each level. He argued that such a structure would create a flexible "organic whole" that would be quicker to adapt to rapidly changing situations. He noted, however, that any such highly decentralized organization would necessitate a high degree of mutual trust and a common outlook that came from prior shared experiences. Headquarters needs to know that the troops are perfectly capable of forming a good plan for taking a specific objective, and the troops need to know that Headquarters does not direct them to achieve certain objectives without good reason.

In 2007, strategy writer Robert Greene discussed the loop in a post called OODA and You. He insisted that it was "deeply relevant to any kind of competitive environment: business, politics, sports, even the struggle of organisms to survive," and claimed to have been initially "struck by its brilliance."





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ElsewheresDaughter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 10:15 AM
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8. to bad you can't vote in our elections eh? and your comment on your profile .....
Edited on Tue Mar-11-08 10:17 AM by ElsewheresDaughter
describes Obama perfectly:

"Politics will eventually be replaced by imagery. The politician will be only too happy to abdicate in favor of his image, because the image will be much more powerful than he could ever be. Marshall McLuhan"
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PerfectSage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 11:44 AM
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9. Actually that describes Bush perfectly. lol
Obama is more like an onion: after you peel away the superficial egotisical layer... ...their's still more onion.
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