Prostitution is common!

[printpolitico]

Face it fellas, Don't play Innocent. Most men have either paid a prostitute, paid a girl for sleeping with them in some manner, or cheated on their wife or girl friend.

Stop throwing stones, you guys know it's true. You all condemn Bill Clinton for what most of you do and lie about.


It's time to face facts and stop acting as though most of the DU'ers all take the moral high road. Based on the language I see on this site very few do.
This is why I would imagine most of the individuals here support a man as Liberal as Obama. Kind of a political Hippie movement.

Volkswagen vans wrapped in little dem donkeys.

[Ordr]

1. Spitzer is a bullying jerkoff who broke many laws.

And no, I have never cheated on my chick or paid for sex. I doubt the majority of DU have, either.

[NDambi]

2. Because others have done it or do it, does it make it right. In addition...

Spitzer holds public office, as did Bill Clinton, it's a bit different than Joe Washington cheating on his wife and paying a prostitute..just a tad, wee bit different.

Also, Spitzer has bigger issues...as a public figure he broke federal laws by transporting a prostitute across state lines and may have used his security detail while engaging in "the" illegal activity.

Sorry...no excuse.

[Avalux]

3. It's not about prostitution, it's about hypocrisy.

Spitzer's job for years was going after these sorts of individuals - he built his reputation on it - now he is one. There's no justification for what he's done as it's completely destroyed any credibility he had. He cannot be an effective governor at this point.

[gatorboy]

4. Forget it, Jake...

It's Trolltown. :P

[kirby]

5. Not me....

However this nations lack of empathy and/or forgiveness is quite sad. Unfortunately it mainly due to lack of accountability in this country.

But considering the high divorce rate and how many of those are due to adultery, it is quite odd at the outrage.

[NDambi]

9. I think this nation can be forgiving and empathetic...but come on...

[JVS]

6. "paid a girl for sleeping with them in some manner"

What, like being willing to be in an ongoing relationship? Marriage? Being friendly and fixing things?

[0007]

7. I'll be first to stand up and take my medicine.

Does reading the bible count just a little in my favor? I guess that would make me worse than worser. I did vote for Barack. Another black mark, I would guess to go against me.

Okay men, its time to open up to Mother Kali and tell all. She knows all.

Mother Kali please spare Elliot Spitzer

[closeupready]

8. Exactly.

There's something about this issue that makes me think of that dilemma where they do these studies that show that pubescent boys claim to have had sex at a higher rate than girls do, and it makes you wonder, well are they all having sex with the same girl? In other words, yes, prostitutes don't exist where there is no demand.

[Indenturedebtor]

10. I never have

I was cheated on in the 6th grade by a girl I swore at the time that I loved. Then again in 7th grade by another girl. Come to think of it they were both blonde... the only blondes I had more than a couple of dates with... may have just learned something about myself :idea: hrm. Yeah anyways at that time I vowed never to cheat on anyone because I knew how much it hurt. I've never kissed another girl when I was committed to someone. I never will. I do, however, steal office supplies. No one's perfect ;)

And no i've never paid for sex nor will I ever unless I'm horribly disfigured in a car crash that kills my wife or some other such wierd thing. But hey if you want to do that and you're not in a relationship then good on ya.

But while I don't respect what Bill did, I don't think that it made him unfit to do his job or any nonsense like that.

[NDambi]

12. "I do, however, steal office supplies. No one's perfect "

:wtf: :rofl: :rofl:

[alcibiades_mystery]

11. I suspect the large majority of heterosexual men

1) Have paid for sex in some manner
2) Have cheated
3) Are or have been essentially addicted to pornography

You'll get a bunch of harumphing here, but I think you're more or less correct. Moreover, most women are either perfectly aware of this state of affairs, or at the very least sub-consciously aware of it. If you have sex with your partner once a week or less, I'd virtually guarantee you that 1), 2), and/or 3) hold. If that sex is "non-adventurous" (which is to say, plain vanilla rather than a little "freaky" ), I'd say that you're probably in 1-3 area as well.

I don't think this is a "natural" state of affairs. It's not that "men are dogs," or anything so trite and stupid. It's not a biological thing, either. It is a direct result of patriarchy, which - as feminists have been telling us for years - severely damages men, too.

[SteelPenguin]

20. What is a natural state of affairs then?

I'm just curious, not attacking here. Basically you're saying that if a man is in a relationship and having interesting sex with his partner at least a couple of times a week, then he will never 1) pay for sex, 2) cheat, or 3) be addicted to pornography. I don't think that's necessarily true. I think cheating is more correlative to not having enough sex, than in a causal relationship. Same with pornography.

What do you think a 'natural' state of affairs is?

[alcibiades_mystery]

21. No, I didn't say that at all

If a man is in a relationship having interesting sex, he may still do all those things.

This is basic logic.

NOT A --> B does NOT imply A --> not B, which is how you're reading it.

Notice:

"If you don't study, you'll fail" DOES NOT MEAN "If you do study, you'll pass." Similarly

"If you're not having interesting sex, you'll cheat, etc." does not imply "If you are having interesting sex, you WON'T cheat."

As far as "natural state of affairs," I don't believe there is one. There are certainly natural tendencies, but I think the voluminous work on the history of sexuality has shown us that "instincts" are always linked to cultural forms of power, and transformed by them. I don't think there is a natural state of affairs when it comes to such things.

[Medusa]

13. Murder is common too

Does that make it okay?

[hiaasenrocks]

14. There's an abundance of opportunity out there.

Two to tango, and all that...

[GoldieAZ49]

15. Were they Governors or Attorney Generals that prosecuted others for involvement in prostitution?

His 'my way or the highway' attitude and air of superiority doesn't cut it.

He is in deep shit and he knows it. Not just for being a john, but many other charges.

He has alienated everyone and they will enjoy watching him twist in the wind.

[Jersey Devil]

16. Oboy! Fish on!!

Nice cast!:rofl: :rofl:

[LadyVT]

17. I am having some fun reading the European press about this today!

[sandnsea]

18. *sigh* Uh, No.

If you're rationalizing YOUR behavior with "everybody does it", well I would try to think of a new excuse before your wife finds out if I were you. She ain't gonna buy that.

[Colobo]

19. If you pay for prostitutes, don't try to be the "moralistic" guy who goes after

such activity.