WHY can't he be TRUTHFUL?

[boston bean]

Why does he have to be untruthful or exaggerate everything. Wasn't his 2002 speech good enough as it was?



MR. WILLIAMS: Senator Obama, a quick response.

SEN. OBAMA: Let me just follow up. My objections to the war in Iraq were simply -- not simply a speech. I was in the midst of a U.S. Senate campaign. It was a high-stakes campaign. I was one of the most vocal opponents of the war, and I was very specific as to why.

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/02/26/us/politics/26text-de...


He was not in the middle of a US Senate race in 2002. Now O supporters, he is constantly exaggerating or downright lying to make his words sound better. Why does he have to keep doing things like this?

[Avalux]

1. Your drivel is so very tiresome.

I won't even acknowledge it with an answer. :crazy:

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

2. Link doesn't work.

So either he misspoke and meant to say state senate race, or was talking about comments made during his U.S. senate race.

:shrug:

Are you seriously suggesting he's trying to trick people into thinking he was running for U.S. senate in 2002?

[jmg257]

3. 1 thing for sure, whatever it is he IS doing seems to be working QUITE well. Why stop now?

[MagsDem]

11. Great idea -- let's nominate a liar

DU'er that support Obama sound more like Bushbots everyday.

[SteppingRazor]

13. If you nominate a politician, ipso facto, you're nominating a liar.

:P

[rodeodance]

16. umm and the media caught him lying about the Rezco affair.

[MagsDem]

22. So all that "Change" we can believe in is bullshit, yes?

And no, not all politicians are abject liars like Obama. Not by a long shot.

[SteppingRazor]

27. .

:rofl:

[cali]

15. If we want to nominate a liar

we should go with Hillary. She does it day in and day out, and it's hillbots like you who say they'll vote for McCain if Obama in the nominee who are clearly freeperish in nature.

[MagsDem]

23. Put up or shut up -- what is she lying about, specifically?

[cali]

28. No problem. Therre are sooo many hilly lies to choose from

She lied when she said that Obama had only a 2002 speech as experience. She lied yesterday about the VP business to Jake Tapper. She lied about her IWR vote. She lies day in and day out. She opens her mouth and lies spew out.

Now why don't you run along to freeperville where you belong so you can work on electing McCain with kindred spirits.

[MagsDem]

31. If she lies so much, give a specific example

Her opinion that Obama does not have much of any experience is not a lie. It's an opinion, which approximately half the primary voters appear to share. What was the lie about the "VP business" -- be specific. And what lie has she told about her IWR? Again, be specific.

I'm not running along anywhere. You don't get to make bullshit statement you can't back up and not get called on it. Now put up or shut up. Or look stupid. Your choice.

[cali]

32. I know full well you have a reading comprehension problem

I gave you specific examples. Now you demand more. Tough shit. Oh, and you continally look like a fool posting lie after lie about the status of the race. Clue: Hilly is losing, dear.

[MagsDem]

35. No, you didn't, because you can't

She lied about the IWR, you claim? That doesn't tell me what you think she lied about in regard to the IWR. Specifically, what did she say about her vote that was a lie? You claim she lied about the "VP business" -- so what was the lie she told about the VP business, as you call it?

You're FOS as usual.

Here are Obama's documented lies:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=5019516&mesg_id=5020085

... and those are just a start.

Looks like since you can't cite one specific example of a lie she told maybe you better stop making the claim. Or look stupid.

[DuaneBidoux]

72. The darkening up the photo did it for me. She has shown a lot of dirty tactics.

[boston bean]

75. That has been debunked from here to eternity, but continue to believe it if you must. nt

[DuaneBidoux]

87. Can you point me to the info--I want to learn what is the truth.

I saw info on Salon that looked solid, and info on KOs that looked solid--can you point me to a rebuttal?

If it is there and evidence says otherwise I will change my opinion. Although I have to say there are other things there including the little girl at 3:00 phone call which to me is rife with the type of fear mongering Republicans do.

[movonne]

24. And I always thought that about the hillary supporters..

[PurityOfEssence]

52. It's like the last line of "Straight Time"

When asked why she can't go with him, he says:

"Because I'm gonna get caught."

[The Stranger]

4. Is that all you've got?

Come on.

[The_Casual_Observer]

5. He left those big anti-war rallies up to Ramsey Clark. Where were

his anti war speeches in 2003, 2004, 2005, 2006?

[AtomicKitten]

6. It was the primary for the US Senate race.

thanks for playing
drive through

[boston bean]

47. he announced in 2003. what big US Senate race was he in in 2002. nt

[AtomicKitten]

51. The lameness of your posts is directly commensurate with your candidate failing.

[stellanoir]

7. Well your link isn't working for me.

I got a "page not found" message.

Out of context though I've heard him speak similarly about defending how he didn't criticize Kerry's or Edwards' IWR vote in '04 in his convention speech.

I don't find him at all disingenuous but I guess we're looking through starkly different lenses.

OTOH why did Hillary FINALLY say she would have voted differently on IWR at the last debate?

peace

[BuyingThyme]

8. He'll do anything to trick us into believing the truth.

[SoonerPride]

9. WEAK

He was againdt the stupid war which is causing this recession from the beginning

[MagsDem]

10. He lies about just about everything

He has personally asked lobbyists to bundle campaign cash for him (but not write checks themselves, just collect the money) and then he claims he doesn't take money from evil lobbyists.

He claims PACs are bad, but he has his own, for which he has raised millions and donated it to SD's running for office since 2005.

He tells voters one thing about NAFTA while winking and nodding to Canadian officials saying no worries about repealing NAFTA

He tells voters he will vote to repeal the patriot act if elected to the senate, then turns right around and votes to extend it.

He tells us he is all for equal rights for GLBT people, then gives an anti-gay bigot a stage and a microphone to spew bullshit about evil gay people so he can capture the votes of religious black voters in SC.

He's a fraud.

[Perky]

26. Show us links

He has personally asked lobbyists to bundle campaign cash for him (but not write checks themselves, just collect the money) and then he claims he doesn't take money from evil lobbyists.
On his Presidential campaign? show us an example

He claims PACs are bad, but he has his own, for which he has raised millions and donated it to SD's running for office since 2005.

There is nothing wrong with that. and they were not to SuperDelegate for being SDs it was for Congressional campaigns and Hillary has done far more of that

He tells voters one thing about NAFTA while winking and nodding to Canadian officials saying no worries about repealing NAFTA

{b]It did not happen. It has been totally debunked.<[br />
He tells voters he will vote to repeal the patriot act if elected to the senate, then turns right around and votes to extend it.

give us a link.....and tell us how Hillary voted

He tells us he is all for equal rights for GLBT people, then gives an anti-gay bigot a stage and a microphone to spew bullshit about evil gay people so he can capture the votes of religious black voters in SC.
He has publicaly repudiated McClurkin views{b]
He's a fraud.

[MagsDem]

34. No problem

Lobbyists:

http://www.boston.com/news/nation/articles/2007/08/09/pacs_and_lobbyists_aided_obamas_rise/

http://boston.com/news/nation/articles/2007/09/23/in_illinois_obama_dealt_with_lobbyists/

http://www.cjr.org/campaign_desk/obamas_lobbyist_line.php

And I personally know lobbyists he has asked to bundle money for him in his presidential campaign. This is an open secret in DC by the way. I don't know how the shills in the media can ignore it. They know he is lying about this.

PACs: So if it's bad to take PAC money if you're a candidate as he claims (and he has done that as well), why is it okay to GIVE PAC money to candidates? That's not lying about PAC money? It sure is in my book.

NAFTA:

Nothing "debunked" about it. Extensive article, with links:

http://www.slate.com/id/2185753/entry/0/

Patriot Act:

FactCheck: Promised to repeal Patriot Act, then voted for it
Clinton took direct aim at Obama and connects fairly solidly: "You said you would vote against the Patriot Act; you came to the Senate, you voted for it." Clinton is correct to say that Obama opposed the Patriot Act during his run for the Senate. She's relying on a 2003 Illinois National Organization for Women questionnaire in which Obama wrote that he would vote to "repeal the Patriot Act" or replace it with a "new, carefully crafted proposal." When it came time to reauthorize the law in 2005, though, Obama voted in favor of it. He started out opposing it: In Dec. 2005, Obama voted against ending debate--a position equivalent to declaring a lack of support for the measure. Then in February of that year, Obama said on the floor that he would support th Patriot Act's reauthorization. In March 2006, Obama both voted for cloture and for the Patriot Act reauthorization conference report.

Pandering to anti-gay bigots:

How the fuck do you give a guy a microphone to spew anti-gay diatribes when you KNOW what his views are, then "repudiate" them later. That is complete and total bullshit, and you know it.

Obama is a fraud.

[Perky]

45. WHen did he say PAC money was bad?

On NAFTA, the Candadian Government said themselves it was spin created by the Consular office in Chicago

Go back and read his speech on the floor during cloture.


who wrote the factchack you provided why no link?

[BenDavid]

12. Where was Obama's big anti-war speech in 2003?

Where was Obama's big anti-war speech in 2004, at Kerry's convention? Where was Obama's big anti-war speech in 2005? Where was Obama's big anti-war speech in 2006? Where was Obama's anti-war filibuster in 2007? Was stopping the war worth standing up, Barack?
Perhaps what you obama folks are wanting to really are asking, "If he's got more than a 2002 speech - where is it?"

[KAZ]

17. He was busy getting his soul hole drilled.

[sandnsea]

14. WHY can't YOU be truthful?

It's been posted here a cazillion times that it was during his highly contentious primary campaign. You are constantly exaggerating or downright lying to make your words sound better. Why do YOU have to keep doing things like this???

[LisaM]

21. When was the primary? Was it in 2002, for a 2004 race?

That doesn't make sense.

[sandnsea]

36. Of course it does

He announced in Jan 2003. There were seven people in that primary. You don't just wake up one morning and announce you're running for Senate, there's a lot of preparation. In addition, he was running for his IL State Senate seat in 2002. Either way you cut it, he was dealing with elections when he gave that speech.

[LisaM]

33. Never mind, I looked it up. He announced his Senate run in 2003.

So he wasn't in the middle of a Senate run in 2002, as you imply he stated.

[sandnsea]

38. See #36 n/t

[meow mix]

18. 2 strikes for 1 post, hahah. 1 more and your outta there!

:bounce:

[Perky]

19. You are confusing THE SPEECH with what He was responding to WIlliams on

Golook at the contect of where He was in the discussion with Williams.

[boston bean]

20. I have, he was talking about his 2002 "anti-war" speech. nt

[Perky]

30. He was talking about his support for Kerry's position in 2004

[boston bean]

40. no he was not! don't try that bull with me. nt

[Barack_America]

39. Yes, you are correct. The OP is lying...again.

Obama was referring to his "I'm not sure how I would've voted" (paraphrased) comment on MTP, which he made in an attempt to defend Kerry during the 2004 GE. He WAS running for US Senate at that time. In 2002, Obama was running for reelection to the IL Senate.

Making inflammatory and patently untrue statements is becoming a serious trend with this OP.

[LisaM]

41. So the quote is incorrect? He said he was in the middle of a US Senate race at the time

according to the quote. But he didn't announce for that race until 2003. So are you saying the quote is inaccurate (in other words, Obama didn't say that?)

[Barack_America]

43. The quote is not in response to the question the OP claims it was.

That's where the "lying" comes in.

You can understand that, right?


Hillary has responded "Yes" to a question before. Does that mean I can say she responded in the affirmative that her Iraq war vote was a mistake and that she is sorry? She HAS been asked that question before and she HAS responded "yes" to a different question. According to the OP, it's fair game for me to put those two together.

[LisaM]

46. I can't pull up the article from the link

But will try to find it a different way.

[Barack_America]

49. Here.

It was from the Ohio debate. This from the transcript.

"Sen. Clinton: Well, I have put forth my extensive experience in foreign policy, you know, helping to support the peace process in Northern Ireland, negotiating to open borders so that refugees fleeing ethnic cleansing would be safe, going to Beijing and standing up for women's rights as human rights, and so much else.

And every time the question about qualifications and credentials for commander-in-chief are raised, Senator Obama rightly points to the speech he gave in 2002. He's to be commended for having given the speech. Many people gave speeches against the war then.

And the fair comparison is he didn't have responsibility; he didn't have to vote. By 2004, he was saying that he basically agreed with the way George Bush was conducting the war. And when he came to the Senate, he and I have voted exactly the same. We have voted for the money to fund the war, until relatively recently...."

"Williams: Senator Obama, quick response?

Sen. Obama: Let me just follow up.
My objections to the war in Iraq were not simply a speech. I was in the midst of a U.S. Senate campaign. It was a high-stakes campaign. I was one of the most vocal opponents of the war, and I was very specific as to why.

And so when I bring this up, it is not simply to say, "I told you so," but to give you an insight in terms of how I would make decisions.

And the fact was this was a big strategic blunder. It was not a matter of, "Well, here is the initial decision, but since then we've voted the same way."

Once we had driven the bus into the ditch, there were only so many ways we could get out. The question is: Who's making the decision initially to drive the bus into the ditch?..."

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/23354734/page/9/ (also page 8)

[LisaM]

54. Thanks

and go Tiges.

[boston bean]

57. that is absolutely ridiculous, it was in response to his speech in 2002. nt

[Perky]

44. No Obama was contrasting what he said in 2002 in THE SPEECH with what he said in 2004

during the campaing. If I recall it was in a respone to Clinton jabbing him about being doubleminded between 2002 and 2004 when he was defending Kerry as the nominee. Out of context. I see how people migh be confused... But MassDem is just on another episode of lets make crap out nothing.

[boston bean]

48. That is not the truth, and if even what you say is the truth, he then says

he wasn't going to be against the war cause he was didn't want to insult Kerry.

This is ridiculous, he was talking about his 2002 speech. You have a readin comprehension problem. good try tho.

[Perky]

59. Post what Williams was giving Obama a chance to respond to,

Never mind I will.

It was from the Ohio debate. This from the transcript.

"Sen. Clinton: Well, I have put forth my extensive experience in foreign policy, you know, helping to support the peace process in Northern Ireland, negotiating to open borders so that refugees fleeing ethnic cleansing would be safe, going to Beijing and standing up for women's rights as human rights, and so much else.

And every time the question about qualifications and credentials for commander-in-chief are raised, Senator Obama rightly points to the speech he gave in 2002. He's to be commended for having given the speech. Many people gave speeches against the war then.

And the fair comparison is he didn't have responsibility; he didn't have to vote. By 2004, he was saying that he basically agreed with the way George Bush was conducting the war. And when he came to the Senate, he and I have voted exactly the same. We have voted for the money to fund the war, until relatively recently...."

"Williams: Senator Obama, quick response?

Sen. Obama: Let me just follow up.
My objections to the war in Iraq were not simply a speech. I was in the midst of a U.S. Senate campaign. It was a high-stakes campaign. I was one of the most vocal opponents of the war, and I was very specific as to why.

And so when I bring this up, it is not simply to say, "I told you so," but to give you an insight in terms of how I would make decisions.

And the fact was this was a big strategic blunder. It was not a matter of, "Well, here is the initial decision, but since then we've voted the same way."

Once we had driven the bus into the ditch, there were only so many ways we could get out. The question is: Who's making the decision initially to drive the bus into the ditch?..."


He was not talking about the speech being in 2004. He was responding to what Clintois said was his attitude in 2004 towards the war.

[dchill]

83. Not so much "confusing"...

as "confabulating."
:eyes:

[susankh4]

25. Boring Rhetoric....

again, and again.....

:boring:

[WDIM]

29. Is Bill lying again?? nt.

[AnarchoFreeThinker]

37. your pants are on fire again.

[boston bean]

56. The only one's who's pants are on fire are Obama's nt

[amborin]

42. you know what Obama reminds me of?

that old joke about two stores competing on the same street....

one store advertises shirts for $20 dollars each, but they're never in stock

the other store advertises shirts for $40 each, and they're always in stock.....when asked why the other store sells shirts for 50% less, this store replies: "I'd be advertising them for half off,too, if I never had to sell one."

that's Obama:

easy to criticize anyone and everything, since he rarely put his money where his mouth was....he cleverly or carelessly forgot to vote, or voted present, or got the button stuck, or whatever.....

FAILURE TO COMMIT, in so many instances.....then so easy to criticize those who did take the responsiblity to carry out the duties of their office, such as voting on legislation

[boston bean]

50. Here is the complete context of the quote, now deny he was talking about his 2002 speech.

SEN. CLINTON: Well, I have put forth my extensive experience in foreign policy, you know, helping to support the peace process in Northern Ireland, negotiating to open borders so that refugees fleeing ethnic cleansing would be safe, going to Beijing and standing up for women's rights as human rights and so much else. And every time the question about qualifications and credentials for commander in chief are raised, Senator Obama rightly points to the speech he gave in 2002. He's to be commended for having given the speech. Many people gave speeches against the war then, and the fair comparison is he didn't have responsibility, he didn't have to vote; by 2004 he was saying that he basically agreed with the way George Bush was conducting the war. And when he came to the Senate, he and I have voted exactly the same. We have voted for the money to fund the war until relatively recently. So the fair comparison was when we both had responsibility, when it wasn't just a speech but it was actually action, where is the difference? Where is the comparison that would in some way give a real credibility to the speech that he gave against the war?

And on a number of other issues, I just believe that, you know, as Senator Obama said, yes, last summer he basically threatened to bomb Pakistan, which I don't think was a particularly wise position to take. I have long advocated a much tougher approach to Musharraf and to Pakistan, and have pushed the White House to do that.

And I disagree with his continuing to say that he would meet with some of the worst dictators in the world without preconditions and without the real, you know, understanding of what we would get from it.

So I think you've got to look at, you know, what I have done over a number of years, traveling on behalf of our country to more than 80 countries, meeting and working out a lot of different issues that are important to our national security and our foreign policy and our values, serving on the Senate Armed Services Committee for now five years. And I think that, you know, standing on that stage with Senator McCain, if he is, as appears to be, the nominee, I will have a much better case to make on a range of the issues that really America must confront going forward, and will be able to hold my own and make the case for a change in policy that will be better for our country.

MR. WILLIAMS: Senator Obama, a quick response.

SEN. OBAMA: Let me just follow up. My objections to the war in Iraq were simply -- not simply a speech. I was in the midst of a U.S. Senate campaign. It was a high-stakes campaign. I was one of the most vocal opponents of the war, and I was very specific as to why.

And so when I bring this up, it is not simply to say "I told you so," but it is to give you an insight in terms of how I would make decisions.

And the fact was, this was a big strategic blunder. It was not a matter of, well, here is the initial decision, but since then we've voted the same way. Once we had driven the bus into the ditch, there were only so many ways we could get out. The question is, who's making the decision initially to drive the bus into the ditch? And the fact is that Senator Clinton often says that she is ready on day one, but in fact she was ready to give in to George Bush on day one on this critical issue. So the same person that she criticizes for having terrible judgment, and we can't afford to have another one of those, in fact she facilitated and enabled this individual to make a decision that has been strategically damaging to the United States of America.

With respect to Pakistan, I never said I would bomb Pakistan. What I said was that if we have actionable intelligence against bin Laden or other key al Qaeda officials, and we -- and Pakistan is unwilling or unable to strike against them, we should. And just several days ago, in fact, this administration did exactly that and took out the third-ranking al Qaeda official.

That is the position that we should have taken in the first place. And President Musharraf is now indicating that he would generally be more cooperative in some of these efforts, we don't know how the new legislature in Pakistan will respond, but the fact is it was the right strategy.

And so my claim is not simply based on a speech. It is based on the judgments that I've displayed during the course of my service on the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, while I've been in the United States Senate, and as somebody who, during the course of this campaign, I think has put forward a plan that will provide a clean break against Bush and Cheney. And that is how we're going to be able to debate John McCain. Having a debate with John McCain where your positions were essentially similar until you started running for president, I think, does not put you in a strong position.

[Perky]

60. Denied.

She tried to slap him on the difference between the 2002 Speech and 2004. He said it was not just a speech. "(In 2004) I was in the midst of a Senate Election campaign......."

Now he does switch gears abruptly because he does not want to get into what he said in 2004 regarding Kerry's position on Iraq. but that is another issue. But he ws not saying the speech was in 2004 which is what you seem to be harping on.

[boston bean]

61. So when he says,

My objections to the war in Iraq were not simply a speech. he was talking about 2004.

When in 2004 was he against the war. He was giving Kerry a pass and telling everyone he didn't know how he would have voted.

You are fishing here for a good answer, but have failed.

[Perky]

65. No. He was saying in 2002 I opposed the war in a speech and in 2004

I was still oposed to the war in spite of the things Hillary is now making up.

I think he knows when He made the speech. It was before the ware and he almost always refers to it in terms of opposing the IWR which was in 2002.


To suggest for a second that he was claiming the speech was in 2004 is absurd on its face.

You are attempting to strain gnats with a fishing net all the while swallowing camels. Hqave you even ever read his 2002 speech? Not only was it prophetic, He was right and he was courageous to do it.

Hillary was a dolt, preferring to swallow the bullshit Buchco was giving here rather than reading the NIE. She was at best lazy and at worst complicit...and she had never apologized for her failure of leadership or her failure of judgement.

[boston bean]

67. You obviously have comprehension problems. nt

[Perky]

78. LOL sure and you have a problem with facts.

[boston bean]

79. You are the master of the spin zone! nt

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

53. How lame.

[boston bean]

55. You are right, it is a very lame thing for him to do. nt

[Sadie5]

63. Bo has lied so much

about things that he forgets what truth is. I think he is lying about Farrakhan and the Rezko deal and his speech deal. So there!

[knixphan]

58. 1553 - 1438. truthful.

[Alamom]

62. It won't work at all in the GE...."IF" he becomes the nominee.

The pukes will use it against him and remind everyone he lied all through the Dem primaries.

Bad judgement at work.

[xmas74]

64. Great post!

I'll have cupcakes waiting for you later. :)

[BlueStater]

66. It seems all Obama supporters ever do is insult people

Calling them lame and pathetic instead of adressing the OP's very legitimate point. If this the kind of "hope" that Obama is projecting then I don't want it.

[avrdream]

68. Yeah, it's all so sad, really.

Just like his lies yesterday about the Muslim garb photo coming from the HRC campaign. The guy can't help himself.

[BlueStater]

69. The more I hear from him the less I like him

And his supporters are perfectly willing to let him get away with saying this bullshit while if Hillary sneezes she's torn to shreads. It's like Bush in 2000 all over again.

[DuaneBidoux]

77. I was for Hillary--but the more I've seen her underhanded tactics....

The more I feel she's the only one that can go sleaze for sleaze with McCain.

And I DO want to win.

Let's face it, Dems have been wusses, letting themselves get beat up by sleazy tactics, I say it is about time to join them and so I say let's go for Hillary. One thing is for sure, she won't be swiftboated, and Obama has stayed way too polite for this game. The fact that he has not hit her back in spite of being hit very hard really does make me question whether he would defend the country either (on that regard, I've no doubt for Hillary).

[DuaneBidoux]

70. I don't know but he'd better stop it, otherwise we'll have nobody that is honest in the race.

I don't even want to try and list the sleaze of the other candidate.

[mudesi]

71. If you were only so outraged over Clinton's IWR vote (nm)

[boston bean]

73. I know who Hillary is, and she is not a liar. BO on the other hand has a bad habit

of embellishing, exaggerating and outright lying.

[Hepburn]

74. You are truly pathetic....

...you support DINO Hillary over a real Dem. People like you will be the cause of a John McCain presidency.

Shame on you....

[boston bean]

76. I don't support liars, embellishers, smoothe talkers, never have.

If I have to vote for him in Nov, it will be one of the most compromised votes of my lifetime.

[walldude]

80. I don't support liars, embellishers, smoothe talkers

so then you aren't voting? Find me a politician who doesn't lie, embellish or talk smooth and I'll vote for them in a heartbeat.

[boston bean]

81. He outright lies on a multitude of issues large and small. nt

[walldude]

82. So does every politician in America.

Every single one. Please show me one who doesn't.

[boston bean]

85. He walks on water, don't you know. nt

[walldude]

86. ?? WTF does that have to do with the fact that you claim

you will never vote for a liar, yet you are backing Hillary? She lies no less than he does and he lies no less than any other politician. It goes with the turf. Yet you claim you won't vote for a liar. You never answered my question. Are you planning not to vote? Or do you believe that it's your candidate who walks on water and is above the fray and always tells the truth?

[DemBones DemBones]

84. Check the Chicago Tribune. They've looked up people

he went to school with and they don't remember things the way Obama does.

The Tribune has talked to a lot of people Obama knew in the past and their memories of events are often very different from those he recounted in his book "Dreams of My Father." It seems that he exaggerated his race consciousness and theirs, that his pals were not angry young blacks and don't remember him being angry, either. It was pointed out by one or two that almost everyone in Hawaii is racially "mixed," like Obama.

Older guys he claimed he partied with in Hawaii say he was never with them at parties at Scofield (military base.)

Obama has claimed several times that when he moved to Indonesia as a child, he became fluent in Indonesian within six months but his former teachers say he never became fluent and had difficulty in school because of that. Former classmates say the same thing, that he knew some Indonesian, but not much.

Why lie about all these little things? What's the point? If you write about your life, people can do fact-checking.