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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 12:24 PM
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She stoops to conquer
I just want Hillary Clinton to go away when she loses the nomination- and to take Bill with her. I've had it with the Clintons and their sense of entitlement, their willingness to do anything, say anything to get Hill in the oval office. I'll reiterate: If by some unlikely chance she gets the nomination, I'll liquor up and go vote for her, but at this point, that is it.

She's run a disgraceful campaign and she's surrounded herself with some truly awful people. It's been one thing after another. Her campaign damn well did try and frame Obama as "the black candidate" in order to paint him as a fringe candidate. Her pollster in NV damn well did say that latinos won't vote for a black candidate. She did make the comment that he isn't a Muslim- as far as she knows. Bill did do his red faced ranting. They did back a bullshit lawsuit in NV and threaten one in CA. They have run an insult 35 states campaign. She has whined about virtually everything. She did pull this stupid VP shit and then lied about it to Jake Tapper. She is secretive and has not released her 2006 tax return or her first lady phone logs or papers. The Clintons do have a long history of connections with dirty money and corrupt characters. And this is just the abridged version.

The thought of the two of them back in the White House couldn't be more dispiriting.

I just want them to go away. Their time is done.
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leftofcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 12:29 PM
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1. And just think yesterday, Bill was so popular
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 12:32 PM
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4. I was never a big Bill Clinton supporter
and sorry, the Lewinski shit was a big deal for me. Middle aged men who prey on very young women do not endear themselves to me.
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AX10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 12:32 PM
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6. Lewinsky knew what she was doing.
She was not "virgin".
:eyes:
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 12:35 PM
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8. And you know this how?
Because she wasn't a virgin? Holy shit. You don't know much. There was a huge power imbalance between the two of them, a thirty year age difference and he was her boss. And many 21 year old women are not terribly mature emotionally.
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DURHAM D Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 12:31 PM
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2. Hype much?
:silly:
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goldcanyonaz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 12:51 PM
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16. Every chance she gets.
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Occam Bandage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 12:31 PM
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3. I liked the Clintons through '07. I started out a Clinton supporter. I'm more disappointed
than anything else.
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tridim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 12:39 PM
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10. I liked Bill until he started pointing his finger at citizens.
Then Hillary took it over the top, now I don't like any Clinton except maybe Chelsea. At least I have nothing against her. The "leave her alone" thing comes from her parents.
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XemaSab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 12:50 PM
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15. As someone with curly brown hair
I am annoyed that Chelsea has bought into the straight blonde look. :P
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Jane Austin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 12:32 PM
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5. Yep, they both used up my last nerve a few years ago when one
voted for the war and the other fussed at us for opposing it.

I do think they have a lot to offer, but I wish it were at a college somewhere and not on my teevee screen.
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cboy4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 12:35 PM
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7. Thank goodness Obama hasn't surrounded himself with
some "truly awful people."
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DURHAM D Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 12:43 PM
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11. You forgot this
:sarcasm:

Obama race baited in a Democratic primary. Shouldn't he be running in that other party.
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Skidmore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 12:38 PM
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9. Hear! Hear!
I've been saying this for a while now. I've been so done with the Clintons for a long time. And I do believe that the Republicans want to run against them because then they can lob dirt. Furthermore, if she were to win the GE, we would have years of a replay of the 1990s because this couple did not learn a damned thing from any of their debacles.
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democrank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 12:43 PM
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12. The Democratic lead over Republicans for the `08 race
is pretty much gone. Thank Hillary for that. She seems to think Obama is some pesky outsider hampering the enthronement we all owe her. I`m really fed up.

By the way...I`ve supported the Clintons for a long, long time. No more. I`m done.
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Benhurst Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 12:48 PM
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13. Yeah, let's just let them leave and take all their supporters with them.
That'll do the trick.

Anybody got a contact with McCain's people. I'd like a couple of tickets to the Inaugural Ball.

Jeez!
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Beacool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 12:50 PM
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14. Oh please, you people are the ones whining!!!
It's an election and not a coronation. It should be played out until the end. I for one have no use for Obama and don't see why Hillary should leave the race to satisfy his ego and his supporters.
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 01:07 PM
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17. Try reading
I did not suggest she should drop out. She certainly has every right to stay in. I said when she loses. And she will.
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Beacool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 01:18 PM
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18. She may, but I wouldn't be to gleeful if I were you
when 25% of Hillary supporters would rather vote for McCain and some would just not bother to vote at all. Let's see how well the new marvel does in the GE without her supporters.
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 02:10 PM
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19. I'll be relieved when she exits the stage
that's all. And yes, Hillary has poisoned the well with her relentless negative campaigning. Note that more Obama supporters will vote for her than the reverse. And that's because he hasn't gone relentlessly negative on her. And I must say, it certainly speaks very ill of a good number of her supporters that they'd choose McCain. Some are just racists of course, and others are evidently unable to see that Obama and Clinton have more in common than Obama and McCain. Hill's comments about McCain didn't help.
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Laelth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 10:32 PM
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20. I am so ready to be done with them.
I defended them for a long time. Now I am eating crow. It doesn't taste very good.

:(

-Laelth
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Bluerthanblue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 10:53 PM
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21. K&R
well said Cali.

peace~
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tabasco Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 11:31 PM
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22. It's depressing to see the Clintons stoop so low in their power/money grab.
They have been corrupted by power and wealth.
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fadedrose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 11:33 PM
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23. Boy, do I agree with you!!!!!!!! (nt)
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 11:43 PM
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24. They will not go away. The only alternative is a long sustained campaign
of complete rejection
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