Why do Obama surrogates love to bring up the race card at every opportunity?

[Auntie Bush]

They drag in race over every little criticism...whether it was meant or not. I haven't heard of one single comment anyone has ever uttered about Obama at EVERY possible opportunity...that someone drags in the race card. It's shameful and uncalled for!

It's the Obama surrogates, his supporters, Michele and Obama himself that play the race card! You can't deny it...but you will. Just listen to his speeches...they are all about race. Who benefits playing the race card? Obama does...to peel off all the black votes from Hillary. Turning the blacks off Hillary isn't good for the Hillary campaign...so she wouldn't bring it up.

Before you all get your panties in a wad...this is a copycat thread accusing Hillary of playing the race card. What's good for the goose is good for the gander. You won't like this thread anymore than I liked yours.

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

1. I've listened to several of Obama's speeches.

I've never heard him bring up race, except in the context of emancipation and the civil rights era.

"Before you all get your panties in a wad...this is a copycat thread accusing Hillary of playing the race card. What's good for the goose is good for the gander. You won't like this thread anymore than I liked yours."

Obviously, you just changed the names around.

But it doesn't really work, since the Clinton team's gone from playing the race card to being flat out racist with this Ferraro bullshit.

If you don't like it, maybe you should reconsider who you support.

[aquarius dawning]

2. Because that and the anti-war speech are the only two cards they're holding.

so they have to play them as often as possible and with a great deal of flourish.

[susankh4]

12. Never thought of it quite like that!

Good assessment of the problem, tho.:yourock:

[SoonerPride]

41. Yep, that's why he leads in every category

Cause Obama is desperate.

OK

[aquarius dawning]

48. Fighting to supress the votes of two whole states to maintain a small lead seems a little desperate

to me actually. And, aside from that, he does only have two cards to play, a race card and and an anti-war speech card. That's it. That's all he's got. If he were a white male, he wouldn't have lasted beyond super tuesday if he even made it that far.

[AX10]

3. kick for the Obambots to see.

[OzarkDem]

4. Because he's the inferior candidate

when it comes to skill, experience and his issues platform.

He must resist talking about issues because, when he does, he loses support.

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

7. Ah, the supremacy card.

Hmm.

[OzarkDem]

14. The better qualified candidate card

that's generally how we try to decide who to vote for - who has the experience and qualifications.

Is the fact that Clinton is the better qualified somehow offensive to you?

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

20. The fact that you think Clinton is better qualified...

is amusing to me.

[Auntie Bush]

54. And you think he is more qualified? What a joke!

You got to be kidding me! That's what I call amusing. :rofl:

[Metric System]

5. WHY DIDN'T HILLARY CRY AFTER HURRICANE KATRINA?!? Yeah, I'm sure JJ Jr. wasn't playing the race card

[leftofcool]

9. How do you know she didn't cry?

Many of us cried

[Metric System]

16. I was paraphrasing what Jesse Jackson Jr. said.

[JoFerret]

55. J.J. Jr lost my respect with that comment

And I once voted for his dad.

[goldcanyonaz]

17. Jessie Jackson Jr. said the above statement, after she won New Hampshire.

[AX10]

11. Jesse Jackson Jr. is an extremist.

I will be a grand day when he is ousted from office.

[angie_love]

6. What an completely idiotic statement. I just listened to Geraldine Ferraro's disgusting comment

A clinton surrogate, saying if Obama was a white man he wouldn't be in the position he is today, he is very lucky... What an asshole. I can't believe you think Obama is playing the race card, give me one example. ACTUALLY GIVE ME 3 EXAMPLES PLEASE.

[jackson_dem]

15. I'll give you three from one month alone: November of 2007 when Obama calculated to use race

Obamite revisionist history holds that race became an issue in January when in fact the Obama campaign decided to inject race into the campaign in November.

1) Michelle Obama's "black america will wake up" (and line up unanimously behind Obama) statement. This was at a time when St. Obama was in the high 30's or low 40's in black support in an eight candidate field. Clearly the Obama campaign didn't think 43% black support was what Obama "deserved"...

2) Obama surrogate Charles Barron arguing blacks should vote for Obama because he is black.

3) Obama surrogate Chris Rock saying basically the same thing as Barron

All this is from one month alone of arguably the most racist presidential campaign since Ronald Reagan in 1980. Only Obama would use racism to try to win over superdelegates. You expect that from rethugs but not from a Democrat.

[Levgreee]

18. Chris Rock is one of your examples? You realize he's a comedian?

[angie_love]

24. LOL, seriously they have nothing so they use a comedian as proof.

What a bunch of morans.

[jackson_dem]

30. Any "comedians" making racist appeals on behalf of Hillary?

Any homophobic "singers" speaking at Hillary campaign events? Thought so...Obama is a fraud. He is a divider, not a uniter just like the last guy who ran on unity...

[Independent-Voter]

38. Any women making "Vaginas for Hillary" statements? Loads.

[angie_love]

47. I'll raise you one better. Geraldine Ferraros statement that he wouldn't be in the position

hes in if he were white. BILL CLINTON comparing Obama to Jesse Jackson as a way of marginalizing him.

"Obama is a fraud" please! you've gotten nuttier as days go on. I thought you were one of the more rational Hillary supporters but your comments of late have put you in the crazy hillbot category for sure. You're definitely not one of the classier Hillary supporters out there.

Thirdly, you still can't name ONE comment Obama said that provides proof hes playing the race card.


I find it ironic that you're trying to somehow have us believe its "dirty" for blacks to vote for a black candidate when 85-90% of black ppl have been voting for white democratic candidates/presidents since like forever. Bill Clinton wouldn't have become president were it not for the overwhelming support of black voters. Don't you think maybe minorities are tired of ONLY have white presidents????? And since Obama and Clinton are the same on 95% of the issues, why wouldn't a minority vote for Obama? Really, your narrowmindedness astounds me.

[jackson_dem]

50. Ferraro counts. That's one and came two months after racegate

1) Clinton stated what was obvious to any student of politics and political history. Only two candidates have won SC via unanimous support among one race and weak support with the other. One is Jesse Jackson. The other is...

John Edwards won both the white and black vote in 2004 in SC, just like Bill Clinton and everyone else who won the Democratic primary in South Carolina except for Jesse Jackson and some other guy who won the black vote 78-19-1 but lost the white vote badly 40-36-24 (he was the 24!).

2) Of course Obama himself isn't going to play the race card. He isn't stupid. That is why he has used surrogates, including his wife, to do it. What do you expect him to do? Even rethugs don't ever directly play the race card. Reagan coded it by saying "I believe in state's rights". He didn't come out and explicitly pander to the racist vote by saying "segregation forever!".

3) What is dirty is swiftboating two fine Democrats, including the last Democratic president, to achieve that 85-90% support. It wasn't the case before the swiftboating. He was actually losing the black vote before he swiftboated the Clintons, which makes it even more disgusting than it inherently is.

You're conflating voting for a Democrat over a rethug with voting for one Democrat over another. Of course Democrats are going to get the black vote over rethugs. Look at the issues. Hillary and Obama both have 100% NAACP ratings and Edwards had a 97% rating. It isn't the issues that is giving Obama 85-90% black support. It is the swiftboating of the Clintons on race that did the trick. Changing what you said, when they are the same on the issues why not vote for the guy you are sure isn't racist against you? This is what the swiftboating did. It is sad to see Obama benefiting from the ugliest kind of politics--the kind of politics he is claiming to be trying to save us from, a central tenet of his candidacy. He is a fraud. His actions reveal he doesn't give a damn about "changing politics" (from the way it has been since Jefferson and Hamilton squared off in the 1790's under President Washington). It is just another campaign gimmick.

No. I am a minority and I would never vote based on race, or anything else like gender, religion, or sexual orientation. As much as folks try to dress it up, when you vote for someone because of their color or gender you are automatically voting against someone because of their color or gender. That is bigoted and wrong. If you would vote for Edwards but for his color or gender your vote was a bigoted one. As an Edwardian it was very annoying and frustrating to see how badly hurt he was by voting based on gender and race. There is a lot of talk about how far we've come as a nation to reach our current point. We have come far but we won't reach the promised land until this kind of identity-based voting ends. You know, as a great man once dreamed, we should judge folks by the content of their character...

[jackson_dem]

27. And his wife, national campaign co-chair, and key NYC supporter are all ______?

[angie_love]

21. No I asked how Obama was using the race card. What did Obama say himself ???

Thats right nothing. I'm fucking tired of you guys constantly saying hes playing the race card and cannot provide any proof at all. Your arguments are laughable at best.

[eissa]

8. His opponents are the ones that are obsessed

with race and ethnicity. I would not be supporting him if he was just "the black candidate". One of the (many) reasons I support him is because he has consistently stayed above that kind of ridiculous talk.

[jackson_dem]

19. That is the Obama racial two-step

1) Play the race card to the hilt with blacks, i.e. sending out his national co-chair to threaten black superdelegates into voting for Obama because he is black.

2) Preserve the "transcending race"* image among everyone else, chiefly whites since the man who "transcends" race loses badly among Latinos and Asians. If anyone is "transcending" race it is Hillary who is winning Latinos and Asians. Obama wins one racial group: his own.

[moobu2]

10. Politics of divide and conquer

Baracknids don't even have a clue they’re being manipulated

[susankh4]

22. So very, very true....

Blacks against women.... :popcorn:

too much fighting....:yoiks:

Oh well, the good ole boys can always appoint a white guy. :wow:

White guys for the white house! 2008, 2012 and always....

Too bad, we lose!

:rant:

[stillcool]

13. Cheap tricks?

December 10, 2007
Third Clinton Volunteer Knew Of Smear E-Mail
A third volunteer for Hillary Clinton's campaign was aware of a propaganda e-mail alleging that Barack Obama is a Muslim who plans on "destroying the U.S. from the inside out."
"Let us all remain alert concerning Obama's expected presidential Candidacy," the email reads. "Please forward to everyone you know. The Muslims have said they Plan on destroying the U.S. from the inside out, what better way to start than at The highest level."

Two Clinton volunteers, Linda Olson and Judy Rose, have already been asked to resign from the campaign for their roles in forwarding the e-mail. The AP reported yesterday that Olson, a volunteer coordinator in Iowa County, sent a version of the e-mail to 11 people, including Ben Young, a regional field director for Chris Dodd's campaign. Young passed it on to the AP.
http://hotlineblog.nationaljournal.com/archives/2007/12/third_clinton_v.html

Kerrey Apologizes to Obama Over Remark
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/wireStory?id=4031436
Kerrey's mention of Obama's middle name and his Muslim roots raised eyebrows because they are also used as part of a smear campaign on the Internet that falsely suggests Obama is a Muslim who wants to bring jihad to the United States. Obama is a Christian.

The Clinton campaign has already fired two volunteer county coordinators in Iowa for forwarding hoax e-mails with the debunked claim. Last week, a national Clinton campaign co-chairman resigned for raising questions about whether Obama's teenage drug use could be used against him, so Kerrey's comments raised questions about whether the Clinton campaign might be using another high-profile surrogate to smear Obama.

Hillary: Sorry for Any Offense Campaign (Bill) Has Caused
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FB65wJ6Rcfs

Bill Clinton Asks for a Second Chance
By Liz Halloran
Posted February 11, 2008

The morning after his wife, Hillary, was routed in three state contests by Sen. Barack Obama in their dead-heat battle for the Democratic nomination, former President Bill Clinton made his case for her before a packed Sunday service at one of the largest black churches in Washington, D.C.
But first he offered an apology of sorts for racially tinged comments he made about Obama and his candidacy that have triggered a backlash in the black community and among many other Democrats.

Clinton invoked his "worship of a God of second chances" in pronouncing himself glad to be at the Temple of Praise, which claims nearly 15,000 members. His invocation of second chances echoed comments he made early last week at black churches in California, where he campaigned for his wife before that state's Super Tuesday primary, which she won.
http://www.usnews.com/articles/news/campaign-2008/2008/02/11/bill-clinton-asks-for-a-second-chance.html

Bill Clinton To Apologize At LA Black Churches
Once again, Bill Clinton is ready to repent.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/02/02/bill-clinton-to-apologize_n_84573.html
On Sunday the former president is scheduled to visit black churches in South Central Los Angeles, where he's expected to offer a mea culpa to those who "dearly loved him" when he was their president, Rep. Diane Watson (D-Calif.) says.
Watson, a member of the Congressional Black Caucus who has endorsed Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton (D-N.Y.), tells us she'll usher the former president to more than half a dozen churches in her district where she says he needs to "renew his relationship" with congregants who were turned off by his racially tinged
comments in the days leading up to and following the South Carolina primary. (Such as when Clinton compared Sen. Barack Obama's landslide victory to Jesse Jackson's wins in 1984 and 1988.)

http://graphics.nytimes.com/packages/pdf/politics/20080112_nevada_lawsuit.pdf
http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/01/17/a-feisty-bill-clinton-defends-nevada-lawsuit/
CLINTON ALLIES SUPPRESS THE VOTE IN NEVADA...
On Meet the Press on Sunday, Hillary Clinton said her campaign had nothing to do with a lawsuit--written about by Nation Editor Katrina vanden Heuvel--that threatens to prevent thousands of workers from voting in the Nevada caucus on Saturday.
Back in March, the Nevada Democratic Party agreed to set up caucus locations on the Vegas strip for low-income shift workers, many of them members of the state's influential Culinary Union, who commute long distances to work and wouldn't be able to get home in time to caucus. It was an uncontroversial idea until the Culinary Union endorsed Barack Obama and the Nevada State Education Association, whose top officials support Clinton, sued to shut down the caucus sites.
The Clinton camp played dumb until yesterday, when President Clinton came out in favor of the lawsuit.
Clinton's comments drew a heated response from D. Taylor, the head of Nevada's Culinary Union, on MSNBC's Hardball. "He is in support of disenfranchising thousands upon thousands of workers, not even just our members," Taylor said of Clinton. "The teachers union is just being used here. We understand that This is the Clinton campaign. They tried to disenfranchise students in Iowa. Now they're trying to
disenfranchise people here in Nevada, who are union members and people of color and women."
Rank-and-file members of Nevada's teachers union also come out against the lawsuit filed by their leadership. "We never thought our union and Senator Clinton would put politics ahead of what's right for our students, but that's exactly what they're doing," the letter stated. "As teachers, and proud Democrats, we hope they will drop this undemocratic lawsuit and help all Nevadans caucus, no matter which candidate they support."
The lawsuit's opponents make a persuasive point. Creating obstacles to voting is what the GOP does to Democrats, not what Democrats should be doing to other Democrats.

Clinton adviser steps down after drug use comments
Earlier Thursday, Clinton personally apologized to rival Obama for Shaheen's remarks.
Obama accepted her apology, according to David Axelrod, the top political strategist for the Obama campaign.
http://www.cnn.com/2007/POLITICS/12/13/clinton.obama/index.html

January 6, 2008, 5:18 pm
Edwards: No Conscience in Clinton Campaign
http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/01/06/edwards-no-conscience-in-clinton-campaign/
By Julie Bosman
KEENE, N.H. – John Edwards angrily took on Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton at two news conferences in a row on Sunday, saying that her campaign “doesn’t seem to have a conscience.”

COMPTON, Calif. (AP) — Hillary Rodham Clinton and her campaign tried to mend ties to black voters Thursday when a key supporter apologized to her chief rival, Barack Obama, for comments that hinted at Obama's drug use as a teenager. The candidate herself, meanwhile, praised the Rev. Martin Luther King and promised to assist with the rebirth of this troubled, largely black city.

Bob Johnson, the founder of Black Entertainment Television, apologized for comments he made at a Clinton campaign rally in South Carolina on Sunday that hinted at Obama's use of drugs as a teenager.
http://www.usatoday.com/news/politics/election2008/2008-01-17-johnson-apology_N.htm?csp=34

Clinton Surrogate Compares Obama Ad to Nazi March
http://news.yahoo.com/s/thenation/20080201/cm_thenation/45278988_1
Fri Feb 1, 2:23 PM ET
The Nation -- On a media conference call organized by the Hillary Clinton campaign today, Clinton surrogate Len Nichols compared an Obama health care ad to Nazis.
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Accusing political opponents of Nazism is an outrageous smear. Raising the specter of a Nazi march in response to a health care mailer that evokes the insurance industry is so absurd, it would be hard to take the attack seriously, were it not launched from a high profile national campaign conference call in this crucial stretch of the presidential race. And political observers know, of course, that the Clinton Campaign regularly arranges opportunities for surrogates to launch these kind of smears, which are later followed up with apologies. (See: Bob Johnson, Bill Shaheen, Bob Kerrey, and Francine Torge, to name the most recent offenders.) For his part, Nichols did not immediately return a call requesting further comment.
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Len Nichols, Director of New America's Health Policy Program, stated, "For nearly 17 years I have worked tirelessly to reform our nation's struggling health system. Today my passion overwhelmed me. I chose an analogy that was wholly inappropriate. I am deeply sorry for any offense that my unfortunate comments may have caused.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dk1k0nUWEQg

[jackson_dem]

23. Explain to us the racism in that list

Only the first example is racist and a mere staffer does not compare to the racism of Obama's campaign's national co-chair.

Speaking of attacks, though:

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Obama has run a dirty, smearing, race baiting campaign

Personal Attacks/Smears/Lies (may overlap with race baiting)

Jesse Jackson Jr. (Obama’s national co-chair) implies Hillary is a racist. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eNrlSn7ndAA

Obama campaign memo that was integral in swiftboating the Clintons on race. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/01/12/read-obama-cam...

Obama spokesman continuing the swiftboating of the Clintons on race before South Carolina. http://tpmelectioncentral.talkingpointsmemo.com/2008/01...

Obama praising Reagan, using him to attack Bill Clinton. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XaoYD7iZG9w

Obama attacks Edwards and Hillary in Iowa for what he would do himself in Nevada. http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/12/29/53807...

Obama takes a page from Rove and attacks Edwards in Iowa on his strength. http://abcnews.go.com/images/Politics/Obama%20Oppo%20on...

Obama attacks Edwards, using the familiar “Edwards is a phony” meme Obamites used on the netroots. “"Part of the problem John would have in a general election is the issues he's taken on now are not the issues or the things that he said four years ago, which always causes problems in general elections," Obama said of Edwards,”
http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/12/29/53852...
(To know what Edwards actually said four years ago read http://home.att.net/~midnightflyer/jednc04.html )

Edwards on Obama’s campaign tactics.
Earlier in the debate (this is what Edwards was alluding to. Obama is replying to Hillary):

St. Obama: But when you comb my 4,000 votes in Illinois, choose one...... try to present it in the worst possible light, that does have to be answered. That does have to be answered.

Later in the debate:

EDWARDS: The question is, why would you over 100 times vote present? I mean, every one of us -- every one -- you've criticized Hillary. You've criticized me for our votes.
OBAMA: Right.
EDWARDS: We've cast hundreds and hundreds of votes. What you're criticizing her for, by the way, you've done to us, which is you pick this vote and that vote out of the hundreds that we've cast.
(APPLAUSE)
http://www.cfr.org/publication/15300 /


David Axlerod, Obama’s top adviser, claimed on television that he could not remember anything Edwards had done in the Senate—even though four years earlier he was listing the great things Edwards had done in the Senate when he was working for Edwards. Is his memory that bad or was he lying?

The Obama campaign smears Bill Clinton with a lie:

We've just obtained an email that shows that the Obama campaign yesterday circulated a negative, and ultimately false, story about Bill Clinton -- that he allegedly made money giving a speech on September 11, 2006.
This email is unusual in that it is flagging something potentially negative not about a primary rival but about the former President -- one who obviously isn't running in the Democratic primary and who remains popular with Dem primary voters.
The email, which was sent out by Jen Psaki of the Obama campaign and circulated to reporters (not us) on an off-the-record basis late yesterday

-snip-
The story spread about Bill ultimately turned out to be false. It ended up on Drudge yesterday, where it was given heavy play for many hours, though there's no proof that it was given to Drudge by the Obama campaign. After Drudge posted it, The Observer's Politicker blog thoroughly debunked the story, pointing out that Bill's schedule proved that he'd actually given the speech the night before, on Sept. 10.
http://www.mydd.com/story/2007/6/15/13559/6539

The Obamite thread about Hillary included two criticisms Hillary mundane criticisms Hillary leveled against Obama, including one in which she said Obama offers false hope. There is no need to document the countless attacks, usually veiled, that Obama has made on Hillary and to a lesser degree Edwards. We all know it. He does so in almost every speech! Here is a sampling, courtesy of the website http://www.attacktimeline.com /

(Obama went on the attack two days after beginning his “positive” campaign)

02/12/07 HEADLINE: Obama's first salvo targets Hillary Clinton


06/15/07 Obama campaign pushes opposition research falsely accusing Bill Clinton of giving paid speech on 9/11/06.


06/16/07 Obama campaign pushes opposition research referring to Hillary as ‘(D-Punjab).’ http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/20...

07/27/07 HEADLINE: Obama likens Hillary to Bush; Hints at poor foreign policy
http://goliath.ecnext.com/coms2/gi_0199-6788300/Obama-l...

10/12/07 Obama says Hillary is leading 'because she's Hillary Clinton as opposed to Hillary Rodham.'
http://www.concordmonitor.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID...

10/11/07 Obama accuses Hillary of trying to 'massage the past.'
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0710/11/sitroom....

10/12/07 Obama campaign says it questions 'what principles, if any' Hillary has.
http://marcambinder.theatlantic.com/archives/2007/10/th...

10/13/07 Obama says Hillary is willing to 'go along with Bush policies.'


10/15/07 Obama says Hillary is 'the most calculating politician in this race.'
http://www.usnews.com/blogs/news-desk/2007/10/15/most-p...

10/28/07 Obama says Hillary believes 'you should hedge and dodge and spin, but at all costs, don't answer.'
http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/51280c12-85aa-11dc-8170-00007...

10/30/07 Obama chief strategist: Hillary 'has a special-interest obsession.' http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21536415

10/30/07 Obama says Hillary 'has not been truthful and clear.'
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21528787/page/13 /

11/01/07 Obama chief strategist says Hillary passes 'everything through a political calculator' and is not 'forthright.' http://www.latimes.com/news/printedition/asection/la-na...


11/01/07 Obama campaign said Hillary 'offered more of the same Washington political calculation and evasion.'
http://thehill.com/leading-the-news/campaign-call-revea...

11/02/07 Obama said Hillary has 'one position one day and one position another day.'


11/07/07 HEADLINE: Obama: Clinton flip-flops on energy
http://www.desmoinesregister.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?...

11/14/07 Obama surrogate Larry Tribe: ' not really a phony, though she plays one on TV.' http://www.cmonitor.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/2007...

11/18/07 HEADLINE: Obama accuses Clinton campaign of mud-slinging with Novak column
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2007/1...

11/27/07 Obama Mocks Hil 1st Lady Role


12/18/07 Obama Hits Hillary In New Hampshire Mailer
http://tpmelectioncentral.talkingpointsmemo.com/2007/12...

12/21/07 Obama Camp Registers Anti-Clinton Web Sites
http://www.abcnews.go.com/Politics/story?id=4036024

12/18/07 Clinton makes nice, but Obama questions her character
http://ca.news.yahoo.com/s/afp/071218/usa/us_vote2008_c...

12/27/07 'Barack Obama's right hand man thinks may have had something to do' with Bhutto's assasination.

http://www.cnn.com/CNN/Programs/anderson.cooper.360/blo...

12/27/07 Obama's campaign links Bhutto's assasination with Hillary's 'different judgment'

http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/1207/Obamas_Paki...

12/27/07 Obama links Bhutto's assassination to politicians like Hillary who 'have not made particularly good judgments.'
http://weblogs.baltimoresun.com/news/politics/blog/2007...

12/28/07 Obama's campaign says Bhutto's assasination was 'yet another manifestation' of Hillary's poor judgment.
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1207/7590.html

01/09/08 Obama supporter calls Hillary one of the ‘guardians of the status quo.’


01/10/08 Obama supporter mocks Hillary’s teary moment and says ‘don’t cry’ to Obama.
] http://www.nypost.com/seven/01102008/news/regionalnews/... /

01/10/08 Obama supporter doubts Hillary’s sincerity and says ‘those tears have to be analyzed.’
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/2008/01/10/200...

01/11/08 Obama supporter suggests Hil’s tears were crocodilian.
http://www.nydailynews.com/opinions/2008/01/11/2008-01-...

01/18/08 Obama suggests Hillary was not truthful and was 'willing to say anything to get elected.'
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/20...

01/18/08 Michelle Obama says Hillary represents 'the same old thing over and over again'
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/20...

01/18/08 John Kerry says Hillary uses ‘the kind of politics I expect from the other party.'http://www.lasvegassun.com/news/2008/jan/18/m-Kerry/#/O... /

01/21/08 Obama accuses Hillary of being 'willing to say anything to get elected.'http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/01/21/debate.transcrip...

Yesterday: Obama releases a lying ad in Wisconsin. http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5hU0EWZcx3NAS1qa1M6s7...

For months: Obama has lied about his plan being universal, aside from a short interlude of honest which disappeared as soon as Iowa and New Hampshire approached.

Race Baiting

Everyone thinks race became an issue in January. In fact is was introduced into the race in November by the Obamas. Remember this was at a time when Hillary looked bulletproof in Nevada and led big in New Hampshire. Obama was in a close three way battle in Iowa (this was before Edwards faded in Iowa, only to recover late but it was not enough). He needed to build a firewall in South Carolina. The exit poll from the South Carolina primary makes it very obvious how he did it.

November 12, 2007:

With polls showing African-Americans have yet to give overwhelming support to White House hopeful Sen. Barack Obama (D-Ill.), his wife Michelle said "black America will wake up and get it" in an interview running on MSNBC on Monday. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2007/11/12/michelle-obama...
(this was at a time Obama was in the 40’s with black voters in an eight candidate field. Clearly his wife expected him to get well more than the 40’s and we now know what tactics they used to go from the 40’s to the mid to high 80’s)

Obama supporter Charles Barron, a NYC councilman, (November 2007): “Why wouldn’t black people support a black candidate who is ready to lead America?" http://www.observer.com/2007/obama-celeb-supporters-ups...

November 30, 2007. Obama supporter Chris Rock at a Harlem event:
A few minutes later, the comedian Chris Rock picked up on that theme. “You’d be really embarrassed if he won and you wasn’t with him,” Rock said. He altered his voice to comic affect. “‘I had that white lady. What was I thinking? What was I thinking?’” http://www.observer.com/2007/obama-celeb-supporters-ups...
Jesse Jackson Jr. implies Hillary is a racist. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eNrlSn7ndAA

Obama campaign memo that was integral in swiftboating the Clintons on race. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/01/12/read-obama-cam...

Obama spokesman continuing the swiftboating of the Clintons on race before South Carolina. http://tpmelectioncentral.talkingpointsmemo.com/2008/01...

Jesse Jackson Jr. playing the race card to win over superdelegates. http://www.talkleft.com/story/2008/2/14/225232/180

In an interview, Cleaver offered a glimpse of private conversations.

He said Rep. Jesse Jackson Jr. of Illinois had recently asked him "if it comes down to the last day and you're the only superdelegate? ... Do you want to go down in history as the one to prevent a black from winning the White House?

[Iceburg]

40. Bookmarked! Obama's race cards -- the slimey whole deck/nt

[JimGinPA]

25. Hillary Is The "Victim" Of Her Own Supporters Insensitive Remarks?

:wow:

[cooolandrew]

26. Tell it to bob Johnson and shockingly Tubbs-Jones.

[jackson_dem]

32. When did Johnson and Tubbs bring up race?

[WarholPop]

28. Ummm . . .

I think Bill C. & Geraldine F. -- the ones bringing up race -- actually are Clinton supporters.

[jackson_dem]

33. When did Bill C bring up race?

[WarholPop]

42. Bill Clinton race baited

by comparing Obama's primary success in South Carolina to nothing more than the type of pyrrhic victory previously enjoyed by Jesse Jackson. Why did Bill Clinton use Jesse Jackson as the historic reference rather than say John Edwards who also won South Carolina but otherwise lost the nomination in making his point?

[jackson_dem]

Only two people have won SC via unamious support among one race and weak support with the other

One is Jesse Jackson. The other is...

John Edwards won both the white and black vote in 2004 in SC, just like Bill Clinton and everyone else who won the Democratic primary in South Carolina except for Jesse Jackson and some other guy who won the black vote 78-19-1 but lost the white vote badly 40-36-24 (he was the 24!).

[WarholPop]

49. right . . .

so Bill Clinton was bringing up race in making his point

[jackson_dem]

52. What was racist about pointing out Obama and J. Jackson won on racial lines?

Any political observer knows it but few were willing to say so publicly for fear of being labeled a racist. Super Tuesday was coming a week after South Carolina and it was logical for the Clinton camp to try to diminish Obama's win as an anomaly since Georgia and Alabama were the only states Obama could have won on racial lines that night (he won both comfortably on racial voting--notice who wins every state that votes on racial lines?). You also have to remember Bill is human. After all he did for blacks in his political career he must have been deeply hurt that night to see how effective the swiftboating of him and Hillary on race was.

[TheWraith]

29. There's a difference. The Clintons actually did it.

This isn't a case of equal responsibility, or where it's all in somebody's head. One campaign has been demonstrably dirty, the other hasn't. Thankfully the Clintons realized that playing that card was hurting them, but it just means that they've moved on to other smears instead.

[jackson_dem]

35. Yes, Obama is a saint

[grantcart]

31. Why does Auntie Bush start OPs with generalities that never have links?

Here is a link of a major Clinton surrogate clearly stating that the only reason we even know who Obama is, is because of his race.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fqL_sm0J8jc

[amborin]

34. also to prevent criticisms

apparently fear of being labeled racist keep many media types mute on Obama's shortcomings

as one newspaper article wrote: people are more afraid of being labeled racist than being labeled sexist

[kid a]

36. Why do you hate black people?

:evilgrin:

[rodeodance]

37. REC

[BenDavid]

39. Who was it that got us to stop fighting the Bush bastards

so we could fight each other? Who gained power by splitting the party and getting Democrats to fight Democrats? If you answered obama then you are spot on.

Hillary says she's more qualified and more experienced than Obama. Obama says she has bad judgment and is of questionable character, so who's running the more negative campaign? again, obama

If Hillary is a racist, why do they have to fake the evidence? Why is every Hillary slur assumed to be true - even when things don't add up? If she's a racist, why do they have to fake the evidence?

[uponit7771]

43. The Clinton campaign has apologized too many times for their racially incensitive remarks for anyone

...who's objective make this statement

[Sick_of_Rethuggery]

44. This is rich.

A. Ferraro explicitly brought up the race unbelievably insensitively and falsely.

B. Hillary herself runs around touting how she is history-making (playing the gender card deliberately, gleefully and unashamedly -- more power to her; but the race-card is their projection). Imagine what you would say if W said "Al Gore is only where he is because of his father". This (Ferraro contention) is much worse because of the history of this country.

[MzShellG]

45. Why do SOME people not like it when others are held accountable for their racism?

SOME would rather the offended group turn the other cheek no matter what is said about them.

[Lerkfish]

46. the difference would be one charge is accurate and one is not.

so tit for tat only works if both parties are equally guilty of the same thing, which is not the case, here.

[book_worm]

51. Seems to me that it's Hillary's surrogates like Ferraro who bring up race.

[Ian_rd]

53. Yawn

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