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book_worm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 02:29 PM
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Interesting Daily Kos post on the popular vote out of the primaries
The popular vote is an inexact measure of the state of the race because, quite simply, there was no tally of popular votes in caucus states.

So when you see the Obama leads the popular vote by 600,000, note that it precludes many caucus states -- Iowa, Washington, Nevada, Maine, and the Texas caucuses. Yes -- the Texas caucuses were a separate contest than the primary, hence should logically be counted.

But if we're suddenly going to use the popular vote as a meaningful measure in this campaign, then we should strive to actually count that popular vote best we can. So what I'll do for caucus states is divide the state delegate percentages (as opposed to pledged delegates) by the total turnout. It's an inexact science, but it should keep things within an acceptable margin of error.

So for all the other contests:

Obama: 13,025,003
Clinton: 12,421,316



That's a 603,687-vote advantage for Obama. Now for NV, WA and ME:

Turnout Obama % Clinton % Popular vote advantage

IA: 220,588 38 30 Obama +17,646
NV: 117,599 45 51 Clinton +7,055
WA: 250,000 53 25 Obama +55,000
ME: 45,000 59 40 Obama +8,550



That's about 56,500 votes, putting Obama's lead at around 660,000 votes.

That still leaves the Texas caucuses, which haven't finished reporting out. Turnout for the first 40 percent of precincts reporting is about 500,000. Now that includes some of the more populous precincts, so we can't just project out. Rather, the estimate I hear bandied around is about 1 million participants. So let's say the numbers ended up were stuck today -- 56-44 Obama -- that would mean a gain for Obama of 120,000 in the popular vote.

Suddenly, Obama's lead is about 780,000.

Unless Obama suffers an epic collapse, he should end this contest with a lead in the popular vote, a lead in the pledged delegates, and a lead in the number of states won.

Clinton will apparently attempt her coup by super delegates, but that path lies civil war. I doubt the supers are that stupid.

http://www.dailykos.com
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bellasgrams Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 02:34 PM
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1. For the good of the country he should leave period.
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Pirate Smile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 02:37 PM
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4. What? Who should leave?
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 02:40 PM
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6. you meant lead of course, not leave
darling hilly will be the one leaving.
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damntexdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 02:45 PM
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7. HE should leave. I guess this is on the same principle by which ...
the NY Giants should have conceded the game as the NE Patriots started their last, unsuccessful, drive in the Super Bowl. Is that it?
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skipos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 02:34 PM
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2. Forget the popular vote. Hillary Inc has now decided that the REAL measure
of a candidate isn't the popular vote, isn't the pledged delagets, isn't the number of states won, or the number of primaries or caucuses won... it is the number of electoral votes in the states they win.

And if Clinton underperforms Obama in that area, I'm sure she will let us know what the next, real measure of a candidate is. The popular vote of females?
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RUMMYisFROSTED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 02:35 PM
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3. It's brilliant.
Team Goalpost
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Indenturedebtor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 02:53 PM
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9. Bwahaha
Team Goalpost! :rofl:


Who knows... maybe he'll win 80% in Miss and she'll go away? Here's hoping.
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JimGinPA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 02:40 PM
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5. Math Is Sexist
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damntexdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 02:46 PM
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8. And math is just so culturally-biased.
;-)
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