Would Walter Mondale have picked Geraldine Ferraro if she was a man?

[zulchzulu]

Poll question: Would Walter Mondale have picked Geraldine Ferraro if she was a man?

Since Ferraro thinks that Obama would not be successful if he wasn't black, this question needs to be asked.

[mikelgb]

1. other:

ugh.

[anigbrowl]

4. MS Ferraro made this assertion herself (to my surprise)

So apparently the argument is taht that it was good enough for her, but not good enough for Obama.

[rateyes]

2. She admitted to that fact in the interview in which she played the race card.

[femmedem]

3. Disappointed in Ferraro as I am for her comment, in fairness

she said herself at the end of the same interview that she would not have been picked for veep if she'd been a man.

[zulchzulu]

8. Then her "argument" and protestation makes even LESS sense

The worst part is how she stooped to trying to trivialize Obama's success because of her tired thinking.

[femmedem]

20. Absolutely! And she also said Dodd endorsed Obama

was the boys sticking together. So in the space of under five minutes, she said being a woman helped her but hurt Hillary, and being black helped Obama. :crazy:

[NJSecularist]

5. She was a lucky beneficiary of affirmative action

If she was anything other than a woman, nobody would know who she was, nor would they care, because she wouldn't have been on the 1984 ticket otherwise.

She has no room to talk.

[DemBones DemBones]

6. Other: Another cheap shot at women in politics

[OzarkDem]

7. Seems to be the favorite pastime around here

[splat]

9. Not much knowledge of history here, either

[zulchzulu]

10. If a man had said that comment, it would have been equally as stupid

What would you accuse the man with that comment with? Nothing?

Are you suggesting the Ferraro was correct in her statement?

[Independent-Voter]

11. That was a hell of a ticket!

OK, notsomuch.

[splat]

12. Ronnie's 'Morning in America' election

[Hart2008]

17. Ferraro didn't even carry her own congressional district. n/t

[MrCoffee]

31. Mondale could have picked MaryLou Retton for VP and gotten his ass beat.

Could not have mattered less in 1984.

[MadBadger]

13. Would Hillary be a Senator if her last name werent Clinton?

[splat]

15. She would have been a Senator sooner. He slowed her down...

...with that detour to Arkansas.

[Not the Only One]

14. An undistinguished 3-term congressperson?

No. Not that it mattered to the outcome, but he should have chosen Mario Cuomo or, even better, 50 year-old David Pryor of Arkansas.

[BeyondGeography]

16. The irony of it all

if ever there was a clear-cut example of tokenism, if was Geraldine Ferraro.

[NJSecularist]

18. A political hack who only has gotten where she is because she is a women

She presided on a ticket that was the worst in Democratic party history. That is all you need to know about her.

[splat]

19. It was hard to get somebody to run against Ike's second term, too

Or are you just assuming they were awful? They weren't.

[Hippo_Tron]

21. There was no hard time getting a candidate against Raygun

It was a very competitive primary between Mondale, Hart, and Jackson. Hart would've done much better against Raygun than Mondale would have. People who don't see that don't understand the fact that the 20% of "swing voters" vote based on how they feel about a candidate and not based on issues like the base of the Democratic Party does.

[NJSecularist]

22. Not an excuse. We could have put a better ticket forward.

Geraldine Ferraro couldn't win her own congressional district. She was a terrible candidate born out of tokenism and political correctness. She should thank her lucky stars for being a women or she would be just another white male political hack.

[splat]

23. Not a lot of people wanted to go through it for a sure loss

[NJSecularist]

26. Apparently you missed the fierce primary battle in 1984

Let's not revise history.

[splat]

29. Hart, Mondale, and Jesse Jackson?

People mostly remember Gary Hart's exit from that.

[frazzled]

24. Totally FALSE analogy

Step back from this canard.

Sure Geraldino Ferraro admits she was chosen because she was a woman. The operative word here is CHOSEN. Picked by a single individual. She was not running for anything. She was chosen.

Barack Obama has not been chosen, selected, or picked by anyone. He is a candidate running for election, appealing to the voters directly, winning contests on the basis of a campaign he has organized and is running: and he is winning votes from those people. You have to be nuts to think millions of people are voting for him "because" he is black. He has EARNED every vote. Just as Hillary has earned hers.

Ferraro's states are indeed racist. Her analogy to herself is totally specious. I hope this is clear.

[zulchzulu]

30. It's not a false analogy...it's putting her analogy on its ass

I agree with you that Obama has earned his success. I've been in the streets helping in any way I can since last March.

:hi:

[calico1]

25. I won't comment on her comments because I haven't

read or listened to them.

I would like to say though that I think it was a great idea for Mondale to pick a woman as a running mate. Great idea...

Unfortunately he picked someone who was not vetted properly. As I recall her husband had some issues (taxes, I think?). And there were better qualified women if he wanted to pick a woman running mate.

[book_worm]

27. His second choice was SF Mayor Dianne Feinstein

he difinitely was going for a woman to try and shake things up, however, I thought then he should have gone with somebody like Pat Schroeder who was a well known congresswoman from Colorado for several terms if he was going to go in that direction or even Lindy Bogg from LA. But it was Tip O'Neal who really was pushing Ferrarro.

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

28. Was wondering that myself.