60% of MS voters think that Hillary has attacked her opponent unfairly

[ecstatic]

70% said Hillary had unfair attacks in SC.

He wins the "Who is more ready to be Commander in Chief" question by 10%

Um... I think we know how tonight will turn out!


GOBAMA!!! YES WE CAN!!!




In other news: Day 1 of Clinton not firing race baiter Ferraro. Hillary 2008: Hypocrisy in Action!

[book_worm]

1. and wins the most trustworthy by 20--no surprise there.

[Georgie_92]

2. It's gonna be a great night for us!

[tridim]

4. Which of course means MS "won't count" nt

[MagsDem]

10. It counts, but it's meaningless in the GE

Now, when does FL count? Or does it not because HRC won? By a fucking mile, I should add.

[ExtraGriz]

as we all know, mississippi will go blue in november!!!

[tridim]

32. Is that Hillary's strategy? "But I won Florida by a mile!!!11!"

Good luck with that MagsDem.

BTW, how is MS meaningless in the GE? This should be good.

[Obamaniac]

65. Won by a fucking mile

And Obama never campaigned there. Ya, let's count that.

[malik flavors]

77. Texas is meaningless in the GE as well, but that state "counts" for some reason.

[Window]

88. Mags, Mags, Mags....

:grr:

[Tarheel_Dem]

3. I just heard Randi say that according to exit polls

a whopping 72% of Clinton voters say they will not vote for Obama, but only 55% of Obama voters say they won't vote for Clinton.

That's some damned twisted logic. But it is Mississippi. :(

[jlake]

5. Obama can't win the GE - he has pissed off too many in the Dem base.

[gmudem]

8. You can make things up all you want

But Clinton is the one who clearly thinks McCain is a better candidate than Obama. What a loyal Dem she is.

[jlake]

13. 25% of Hillary supporters nationally will NOT support Obama.

Clinton's opinion of McCain doesn't have anything to do with Obama's inability to hold on to the Dem base.

[writes3000]

17. Ummm, aren't you supposed to be at Hillary's Mississippi victory party now?

The party of one. Cause Hillary won't be there.

[jlake]

23. I'm here - about to pop the champagne..... looks like she is winning by 3-4%!

[ecstatic]

33. Diebold comin' through again huh... ? Not this time

No she won't!

[rodeodance]

69. :-)

[VolcanoJen]

79. Clearly you're already halfway through that bottle.

}(

[MagsDem]

20. OMG, you're using the dreaded logic on them!

[rodeodance]

71. I was chuckly as I read his responses-------GO--jlake

[NJSecularist]

25. By the Democratic base, you mean the classic Rethug-Dem swing voters

Hillary can take that demographic. They are not Democrats. They are neo-cons. They singlehandedly gave Bush the presidency in 2004.

[MagsDem]

29. Yeah, we don't need 'em right?

We don't need to win the GE. Obama's nomination will keep us all warm at night. LOL!

[Obamaniac]

67. Because Clinton supporters are a pack of whining cry-babies...

Who take their ball and go home when they don't get what they want.

[MagsDem]

14. That's the truth -- he divided the party, and we will lose in Nov

... because he did that. Obama is all Obama cares about.

[Johnny__Motown]

41. THIS IS WHAT DIVIDED THE PARTY

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RZsYWiywdCA&feature=related

[MagsDem]

54. No, the party was divided long before that

And she is only echoing what people have told exit pollers. His inexperience is a very real and legitimate concern. I'm sorry you don't like it talked about or pointed out, but this is a political campaign, and those are legitimate issues.

[Yurovsky]

Since when is Black America NOT the Dem base???

Trust me, Billary isn't going to be getting any more honorary degrees from the nation's HBCUs. The overt racism shown by the Clintonites will NEVER be forgotten.

[MagsDem]

42. They are 11% of all voters

I don't think that makes them anyone's base. Are they part of it? Sure, but far outnumbered by other groups. And trust me, the overt sexism by Obamaites will not be forgotten by people either.

[Tarheel_Dem]

52. so down ticket races don't matter to the Clintonistas, just as long as

Hillary's at the top of the ticket. AA turnout will be very important in those races which is why there has been such a migration of SD's to Obama, they know Clinton can't help them.

[MagsDem]

55. How can he have coattails if 20-25% of dems won't vote for him?

That figure has been borne out by exit polls in the primaries. It's ridiculous to say a candidate that can't even capture 90% of his base has any coattails.

[Tarheel_Dem]

60. but you think once we have a nasty floor fight at the convention

hillary will do better? You're drunk. She is despised by Republicans, and now AA's, men obviously don't care much for her either. Oh yeah, Hillary's got the right stuff....

[cali]

24. You're back!

Oh good, now I get to tell you how fucking ridiculous your post is. And look who Hilly has pissed off: Nancy Pelosi- and that means that she's pissed off a lot of Congressional dems. As for voters in MS, it's not a state that's going to move from the R column in November anyway. Oh, and hilly has pissed off the entire AA community. She can't win in November without it.

[jlake]

35. Ray Ray,

just checking in for Hilly's MS Victory!
Nancy Pelosi doesn't have very good control of the congress - or she is truly willing to let Bush get away with his crimes.... which one is it? - either makes her
ineffectual and unimportant in this debate.
The party is divided - and despite some Obama supporter's opinions - it is not solely Hillary's fault.... the damage is to both candidates -- but many Obama supporters seem to think Obama is going to win in a landslide - not a possibility with a huge chunk of the Dem base missing from his column.

[gmudem]

43. Do you seriously think Clinton will do something about Bush's crimes?

My goodness you Clintonites sure are gullible.

[jlake]

49. The issue is Nancy Pelosi.

Either she is ineffective at her duty - to hold Democrats together and fight the Republicans, or she is an accomplice to Bush's crimes.
Both reflect poorly on Mrs. Pelosi.

[cali]

74. pookie I'm not a great Pelosi fan but only a fool wouldn't know

that she's the most powerful dem in Congress and has huge influence on many dem congress critters. And yes, they're both damaged and not all of it is hill's fault- but a big chunk of it is. And you know she'll lose MS tonight.

[Window]

90. Pookie!!!!

LMAO!


:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

[donheld]

97. So how's that Silly Hilly victory going?

[Tarheel_Dem]

30. And the only base Hillary will bring out in droves, is the Republican

base. Unless, of course, you thought Hillary had a chance in hell of winning Mississippi. Yeah, I said it. And as for pissing off the base, did you get a good look at the numbers at the top of the page?

Her national numbers are back where they were before her alleged "momentum". Can you wrap your teensy little head around the fact that a full 20% more see her as "DISHONEST"? Oh yeah, the base will be breaking down the doors to vote for her.

I have every faith that Obama can bring the base back together, while I have no faith at all that Hillary can do the same. She's tarnished by all the underhanded crap coming out of her campaign, and the exit polls bear that out. :eyes:

[rodeodance]

72. she is already winning

[Window]

92. ..

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

[Window]

91. What Tarheel_Dem said!!

:yourock:

[Tarheel_Dem]

96. Thank you Window, and right back atcha!

I don't suffer fools lightly. :pals:

[JackORoses]

48. Obama is our Nominee. The 'base' is just going to have to deal with it.

Sorry your gal is getting beaten like a dead horse, couldn't be helped.

[jlake]

51. Obama will NOT be the nominee. Despite his best efforts to steal this

nomination - he will not succeed.

[fujiyama]

73. Steal this?

Are you fucking dense? Or not know the meaning of numbers? She has little chance in catching up, letting alone beating him with pledges delegates - delegates he WON in states all over the country.

Meanwhile your candidate is running for just the swing states. And while many Hillary supporters are bitter she wasn't able to ride out this coronation and will run to the other side in the fall, be certain that there are many that did NOT support Clinton and at this point just WILL NOT support her.

[stevenleser]

81. You have pissed off THIS person in the Dem base, and are on Ignore

Bye

[Window]

89. LMAO! You Hilly supporters are funny as hell.

[Alhena]

11. Hello? This is the DEEP SOUTH- what do you expect?

[ecstatic]

12. wow! That's crazy! nt

[niceypoo]

78. This is due to the fact that Obama supporters are generally viscious...

..and they never ever discuss policy, even the leftwing media, all they do is obsessively attack Hillary ad nauseum. This is wrecking any chance that a lot of Clinton supporters will ever go over to Obamas side. They dont just attack Hillary, they also attack her supporters.

Obamas supporters are driving potential allies away by being so obsessive about Hillary. Until they start touting Obama on policy, and stop relying on negative attacks, they will lose even more potential supporters. It is a self perpetuating sitation for Obama supporters an it is beginning to backfire on them because it is what we normally see from republicans, not Democrats.

[Window]

95. How in hell can you say that with a straight face? Just look at your fellow

Hillary supporters in this thread alone.

The exact same things you mention could be said about Hillary supporters.


:banghead:

[MagsDem]

6. Let's get real -- AA are voting for an AA and it won't mean shit in the GE

Obama can win every red state in the nation for all I care. He's not going to win them in the GE, which is where we need wins to have a democratic president. Color me unimpressed.

[ProSense]

9. Let's get real. Read the OP again! n/t

[MagsDem]

18. I read it.... and the fact remains AAs are voting for an AA

And that's about it. It's not going to mean shit in Nov, as you well know.

[NYCGirl]

21. Yeah, like all those black people in Iowa and Vermont! NT

[MagsDem]

27. Those states will matter in Nov -- not the same thing

Now if he could only win ONE decent sized state like FL, OH, TX, PA, NY.... then you might have a point.

[NYCGirl]

34. You mean like Washington, Virginia, Wisconsin, Minnesota, Louisiana, Georgia, etc?

[democrattotheend]

39. And Illinois

It's his home state but MagsDem included New York in her list, so it's only fair

[NYCGirl]

40. True. I left it out for that reason, but you're correct. NT

[MagsDem]

45. No, I mean large states

Like CA, FL, NY, PA, OH... you know, the ones with all the electoral votes we need and can get in the GE.

[NYCGirl]

53. Oh, you mean the blue states that always vote Democratic and won't go for

McCain in a million years. (Except for perhaps FL, which is increasingly red.)

[MagsDem]

58. If it's Obama kiss FL and MI goodbye

And OH. And very possibly PA. No way to win the GE without 3 of those 4?

[NYCGirl]

59. He'll do just fine in MI and OH and PA. And gain VA, too. NT

[MagsDem]

66. Not according to state polls

McCain beats him in OH by 13%. You live in a dream world.

[democrattotheend]

56. Obama will win CA and NY just fine. And if you include NY, you must include IL

You can't credit her for winning her home state but leave out his.

[MagsDem]

61. Regardless he is a gauranteed loss in the GE

He won't win OH, FL, PA, or MI (if he keeps insisting they don't deserve a voice).

[NYCGirl]

86. I guess that's why he's winning against McCain by twice the margin that

Clinton does.

[democrattotheend]

36. What about Virginia and Wisconsin?

Not quite as big but decent-sized. Wisconsin is a critical state that Kerry almost lost, and Virginia is looking more and more competitive.

And if you are going to add NY to the mix you have to include Illinois too, which he won big. I know it's his home state, but NY is her home state, so if you are going to discount Illinois take New York off the list. And he won Illinois by a much bigger margin than she won New York.

[ecstatic]

63. Don't you realize, the red state/blue state dynamic isn't written in stone

Why don't you believe it's possible for some red states to turn blue one day?

[Tarheel_Dem]

44. and Wyoming & Maine

I think MagsDem might be Maggie Williams, Clinton's secretary/campaign advisor/toadie/propagandist?

[MagsDem]

50. LOL -- Wyoming to go Blue in 2008 for Obama?

I swear, I'm beginning to think there should be an IQ test required before voting.

[Tarheel_Dem]

57. did i say it would go blue? about as much chance as mississippi

going blue for Hillary. :silly:

[MagsDem]

64. Well then you agree with -- MS win doesn't mean jack

Other than getting us closer to a nominee that can't win in the GE.

[Tarheel_Dem]

75. i do not agree with you..because should hillary pull an upset

there, the whole board will erupt in julibation for her. It's important in the sense that it builds obama's delegate lead even further, and makes it all but impossible for Hill to catch up. Boo-Yah!

[ecstatic]

16. ok

:eyes:

[Adelante]

7. Where are you seeing all this? nt

[Connie_Corleone]

15. MSNBC

[ecstatic]

19. Yep. Thanks nt

[Tropics_Dude83]

31. Magsdem

What about Wisconsin, Missouri, Virginia? All potential purple states. All swing states. All states Obama won.

What about the fact that Clinton loses Oregon/Washington in SurveyUSa GE polls. Obama doesn't.

What about the fact that both Obama and Clinton have idential 50-40 SurveyUSA Oh GE leads.

What about the fact that Obama has won more blue state primaries than Mrs. Clinton.

What about the fact that the demoralized republican base will be energized to defeat HRC in the fall and deflated to defeat Obama.

What about the fact that Mrs. Clinton has ZERO appeal to general election independents while Obama has a tremendous appeal.

What about the fact that Clinton has unfavorable ratings hovering around 52$ while Obama has 51% favorability ratings.

What about the fact that Obama energizes a tremendous amount of young people who could help tilt a couple swing states in the fall.

[Tarheel_Dem]

70. All very good points, I'll be interested to see what Mags has to say...

chirp

[Window]

93. Mags is going to say the exact same shit over and over again.

No matter how much sense you make. Just watch.:rofl:

[JVS]

22. How many know that she's a monster?

[cbayer]

26. Do you have a link? nt.

[OzarkDem]

28. Obama plays the race card again

and shows he can't win a race on his own merits and qualifications.

What a pathetic, egotistical ass he is.

[democrattotheend]

37. huh?

Based on...

[Tarheel_Dem]

80. don't mind her...she has "projection" issues...

Listen: A Clinton surrogate makes a ludicrous racist comment, the media has a field day with it, Obama's asked to respond to said racist comment, Hillary World is "outraged" at said response, Clintonistas try to turn it on Obama & claim he's race-baiting. Wash, rinse, repeat. It's the meme they're stuck with, because frankly, that's all they got. They're pissed at black people right now, 'cause we don't love her like we did Bill. <Sigh>

Why do you think their new best friends are over at Fox News Channel? I'm listening to Jeff Farias right now, and he played a clip of Ferraro, two weeks ago, saying to John Gibson exactly what she's now being called on the carpet for. Surprisingly, Geraldine's been out on the stump saying this crap for weeks, and it's just now caught up with her.

[Johnny__Motown]

38. and 40% were not paying attention?????

[BigDDem]

46. This just in...

60% of MS voters are thin skinned!

Dear 60%,

Please don't pay attention to the GE campaign, you
wont be able to take it.

[BigDDem]

47. D'oh

[Beacool]

62. Booohoooo, poor little Obama!!!

How dare anyone attack the Anointed One!!!!!

"We are the ones we've been waiting for"......

What's wrong with those of us who don't agree with the fawning masses, how come we can't see his greatness?????


:puke:

[rodeodance]

68. THEY SURE are having a tizzy fit ---ha ha.

[stevenleser]

83. 'Bout time I did this... IGNORED!

Later!

[Tarheel_Dem]

84. I'm with you...she's a vicious old cuss (eom)

[rodeodance]

85. BOO

[CreekDog]

76. So how many of those voters will Hillary get?

?

[Zachstar]

82. GOBAMA!!!

[uponit7771]

87. si se puede!!!!!!!!!!

[dramatica]

94. Of course. The media fed this to the people

No wonder.

[Scurrilous]

98. K & R

:thumbsup:

[alteredstate]

99. K & R