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berni_mccoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 07:56 PM
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Clinton Says She'd Support McCain as V.P.! Can there be any doubt she's really a Republican?
Edited on Tue Mar-11-08 08:01 PM by berni_mccoy
After all, she grew up as a Republican.

Note: these are older articles, but, still relevant.

Clinton Says She'd support McCain as VP
http://www.mywire.com/pubs/AFP/2004/05/23/473193?extID=10051
WASHINGTON (AFP) — Senator Hillary Clinton said she could support John McCain, a leading Republican senator, as the Democrats' vice presidential candidate in November's presidential election.
"I'm a big admirer of John McCain's," Clinton -- the former US first lady and one of the most prominent Democrats in the US Congress -- told the "Fox News Sunday" program.
"I've spoken with Senator McCain and he assures me he's not interested, but you know, we'll see what happens."


Hillary's secret weapon ... Republican guards
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/article557358.ece

POLITICIANS are used to being accompanied by bodyguards. Hillary Clinton has an extra shield: a Republican guard protecting her from accusations that she is too left-wing. Her mission to persuade voters that she is centrist enough to become president in 2008 depends on the company she keeps.
Clinton, a Democrat senator for New York, rarely takes a step in public or a policy initiative without being surrounded by Republicans.

Clinton visited Iraq earlier this year with McCain — both are against withdrawing American troops on the grounds that greater numbers are needed to assure success — and has joined forces with Graham on improving health insurance for army reservists.
“Newt smiling with Hillary and John McCain giggling with Hillary leaves you wondering: why are these people laughing?” Noonan complained.


Hillary, Congenital Hawk
http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9500E1DD103DF93BA35751C1A9659C8B63
She does not go along with the notion that the Iraqi dictator posed no danger to the U.S.: ''I think that Saddam Hussein was certainly a potential threat'' who ''was seeking weapons of mass destruction, whether or not he actually had them.''
When Tim Russert on ''Meet the Press'' gave her the opening to say she had been misled when she voted for the Senate resolution authorizing war, Senator Clinton countered with a hard line: ''There was certainly adequate intelligence without it being gilded and exaggerated by the administration to raise questions about chemical and biological programs and a continuing effort to obtain nuclear power.''
On forgotten Afghanistan, like many hawks, she was critical of the failure of European nations ''to fulfill the commitment that NATO made to Afghanistan. I don't think we have enough American troops and we certainly don't have the promised NATO troops.''

Regarding her statement 'adequate intelligence' to go to war: she never read the NIE

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Bright Eyes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 07:57 PM
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1. Clinton needs to drop out and leave the party.
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Georgie_92 Donating Member (313 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 07:59 PM
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3. WTF ??? She's lost it for sure now.
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emilyg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 08:15 PM
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16. You didn't even know this is from 2004 - did u?????
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berni_mccoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 08:23 PM
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23. Her Iraq War Vote was in 2002. It's still relevant, just like her statements from 2004.
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niceypoo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 08:51 PM
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36. A four year old article taken wildly out of context...
...why do Obamas supporters feel they have to lie to smear Hillary?

This is pathetic...
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berni_mccoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 10:25 PM
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49. It's a pattern of her statements from 2004, 2005, and 2006. She speaks what is convenient
It will be used against her in the General Election and that is why she must not be the nominee.
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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 07:58 PM
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2. Have yo forgotten that Kerry and McCain also talked about
McCain being HIS VP?

I even remember quite a few people on DU thinking that was a good idea at the time!
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MadHound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 08:01 PM
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4. Yeah, I remember,
I also remember that most people were disgusted with the idea at the time too, and that was one among many reasons that many people either came close to, or voted third party.

Sorry, but pairing up with McCain is a really bad idea, and the fact that Hillary is even considering it is a sure sign that she's not fit for being our nominee.
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sam sarrha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 08:02 PM
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5. i just fell of the fence into Obama's lap...
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ruggerson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 08:22 PM
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22. the OP is playing games - this was from 2004
when Kerry had asked McCain to be his Veep.
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berni_mccoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 08:27 PM
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26. Her Iraq War Vote was in 2002. It's still relevant, just like her statements from 2004.
Do you not read the other articles or did you just stop at the first one?
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anonymeme Donating Member (530 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 08:30 PM
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29. When Obama Touts a Republican or Plays Ball w/ Them, He Calls It "Non-partisanship"...
When Obama Touts a Republican or Plays Ball w/ Them, He Calls It "Non-partisanship"...

Have you seen his rhapsodizing paeans to Ronald Reagan?


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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 08:45 PM
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35. she's been consistent...
the articles are from 2003, 2004, and 2005.
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sam sarrha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-12-08 06:31 AM
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53. excuse me wlile i go block tha F'n asshole..
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pocoloco Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 08:05 PM
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6. McCain not interested.
Well, how about Joe???
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tabatha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 08:06 PM
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7. Good lord, with 75% of the country against the Iraq war...
does she not truly understand that she has shot herself in both feet.
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ruggerson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 08:07 PM
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8. This is from 2004 and she was responding to the question because KERRY HAD ASKED MCCAIN
what was she supposed to say? That the nominee of her party had his head up his ass?
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berni_mccoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 08:07 PM
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9. This will totally be used against her in the General Election. She's not electable.
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ruggerson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 08:08 PM
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11. Yeah, right
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emilyg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 08:16 PM
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19. Oh please - 2004????
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berni_mccoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 08:23 PM
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24. Her Iraq War Vote was in 2002. It's still relevant, just like her statements from 2004.
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-12-08 06:41 AM
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55. You Are Really Reaching With This, And It All Comes Off As Quite Stupid.
Ain't no one with an intellectual cell in their heads that would buy this crap. For real.
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lvx35 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 08:08 PM
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10. posted in 2004???
With several comments talking about it like it just happened???
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berni_mccoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 08:09 PM
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12. This is perfectly relevant to the General Election. She can not stand against McCain.
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Fresh_Start Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 08:11 PM
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13. Kerry soliciting McCain 4 VP....Clinton said she'd support Kerry's choice
Are you kicking Kerry out of the party too?
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berni_mccoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 08:35 PM
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33. Kerry did not solicit McCain.. but thanks to Clinton, she helped fuel the rumors.
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Fresh_Start Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 08:52 PM
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37. Kerry approached McCain multiple times
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emilyg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 08:13 PM
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14. From 2004 - you shpuld be ashamed of yourself.
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Bjorn Against Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 08:26 PM
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25. The point is she thought McCain would be a good choice for President just four years ago...
Edited on Tue Mar-11-08 08:26 PM by MN Against Bush
I said President and not merely Vice President because considering the VPs primary role is to take over the Presidency if needed it would logically follow that if Hillary wanted him as VP she would be fine with him as President as well. If Hillary thought he would be a good choice for President only four years ago then they can easily use that against her now.
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berni_mccoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 08:28 PM
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28. And, Her Iraq War Vote was in 2002. It's still relevant, just like her statements from 2004.
As I have to remind these Hillary supporters constantly.

I'm glad you see it for what it is.
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sam sarrha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-12-08 06:34 AM
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54. the point is YOU ARE A FUCK'N LIAR.. POSTING DISTORTIONS AND LIES,
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Bjorn Against Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-12-08 07:47 AM
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56. Where did I lie?
Do you deny that the primary role of Vice President is to take over for the Presidency if needed? If you support a candidate for a Vice President you either support them for President as well or you have no clue what the VP role is all about. I think Hillary knows enough about government to know what the role of the VP is and the only logical conclusion is that she would have supported McCain for President just four years ago. That is not a lie, and if you call me a liar without backing it up I think we know who is really lying.
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greguganus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-12-08 08:07 AM
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57. She needs to bow out now and resign from her senate seat. n/t
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New Dawn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 08:14 PM
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15. She is definitley a Republican.
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rug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 08:16 PM
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17. Good grief. You actually think she was serious.
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Whisp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 08:16 PM
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18. she so admires the guy that called her daughter a dog.
Edited on Tue Mar-11-08 08:18 PM by Whisp
Shame on You.

I wonder how Chelsea feels about this? um?

shuster gets the pile on and McCain gets the pass.
wouldn't be anything 'political' now would it? I'm sure they had a mom to daughter talk about how this all works and what is important for mommy.
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walldude Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 08:17 PM
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20. McCain's not running for VP
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
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ruggerson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 08:20 PM
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21. The headline (misleadingly) refers to when Kerry asked McCain to be his VP in 2004
and Clinton was asked about it. She was supporting Kerry's right to have his choice.
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judaspriestess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 08:28 PM
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27. Kerry asked McCain to be his running mate, why is that ok?
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berni_mccoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 08:31 PM
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30. It was the other way around, and thanks to Clinton, she fueled the rumors.
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slinkerwink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 08:31 PM
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31. she is not a Democrat. She is a DINO.
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greguganus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-12-08 08:08 AM
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58. She's a blonde Lieberman. n/t
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elixir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 08:34 PM
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32. I believe this was when John McCain was talking with John Kerry about the VP slot. Not
surprising that she was asked her impressions and had this response. Keep in mind that McCain at that time was considered more of an outsider.

Cherry picking information, not nice.
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berni_mccoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 08:36 PM
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34. There are THREE articles there... and how she feels about McCain is still Relevant
She can't compete with McCain and will lose in the General Election.
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unapatriciated Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 10:30 PM
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50. Cherry Picking is what he does best...
Bernie likes to inflame both sides, with CHERRY PICKING FACTS.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=385x103153

http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/did_clinton_dar...

Another blogger who posts under the handle Berni_McCoy on DemocraticUnderground.com falsely accused us of having "POSTED A DOCTORED VIDEO" of Clinton’s ad. Since his mistaken claims are attracting some notice in the blogosphere, we will point out his error here.

He compared the Windows Media video of the ad posted on our site with a QuickTime version of the ad that he obtained from Clinton’s campaign Web site. He then displayed frame shots from these two versions and stated "the difference is clear." He concluded that we are "completely wrong" or "directly falsifying the 'facts.' "

McCoy, however, falsely said that our Windows Media video is derived from the Clinton QuickTime version, which it is not. Our video is a copy of the high-quality video recorded by CMAG as it appeared on the air in Texas. So what McCoy imagines is evidence that we "doctored" video obtained from the Clinton Web site is actually evidence that supports what we said in the first place:Versions of the Clinton ad from different sources show different shadings, and the YouTube version on which the "racism" claim rests is the darkest of the lot."

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niceypoo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 08:53 PM
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38. Articles from 2003, 2004 and 2005 all taken wildly out of context...
Edited on Tue Mar-11-08 08:55 PM by niceypoo
Obama supporters have become so bizarre lately...

This is exactly what the Republicans did to Gore in 2000, dug through everything they could find from the past and, taking it wildly out of context, used it to paint him as a serial liar.

Obama 2008 = Bush 2000
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berni_mccoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 09:01 PM
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42. Her Iraq War Vote was in 2002. It's still relevant, just like her statements from 2004.
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okasha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 08:55 PM
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39. This is, of course, from the time when John Kerry
was said to be quietly exploring the possibility of inviting McCain onto a bipartisan ticket as his running mate.

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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 09:11 PM
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44. as is this...
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berni_mccoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 10:08 PM
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46. That is totally DAMNING of her... "What Senator Kerry Said is Totally Unacceptable..blah blah"
She also said this to John Edwards on the floor of the Senate: "Why don't you just stand there and look pretty John."
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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 10:19 PM
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48. Ignorance is Bliss..
I am so sickened that I was forced to learn all this shit. I was perfectly happy in my blurred vision of the Clinton's and who and what they represent. I think a deluge of material will be upon me soon. I've been so busy sorting through truth and fiction regarding the cheap tricks played in the media, I haven't really looked at the more damaging baggage the Clinton's carry.:puke:
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greguganus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-12-08 08:09 AM
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59. How low can she go? n/t
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OzarkDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 08:55 PM
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40. That's a bald faced lie
Obama can't seem to make headway when forced to campaign honestly.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 08:59 PM
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41. Deleted message
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emilyg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 10:09 PM
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47. Yes he is.
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berni_mccoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 09:01 PM
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43. Her Iraq War Vote was in 2002. It's still relevant, just like her statements from 2004.
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unapatriciated Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-12-08 12:40 PM
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64. Keep repeating yourself "It catapults the propaganda"
Did you study with Rove at the feet of Buchanan (rove's mentor)?
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cui bono Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 09:34 PM
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45. OMFG. n/t
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eridani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-12-08 06:14 AM
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51. Not a Republican, but using their memes
What she is using against Obama will be used against her.
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BringBigDogBack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-12-08 06:15 AM
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52. Beautiful.
Nice find. :thumbsup:
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greguganus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-12-08 08:10 AM
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60. She will do ANYTHING to get back in the White House! n/t
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enough already Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-12-08 08:12 AM
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61. Total desperation
Just go the f' away, Hillary.
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IsItJustMe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-12-08 08:15 AM
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62. I don't see any difference. Hillary or McCain, the article just proves my point.
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-12-08 08:24 AM
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63. Partying with Fox & the Bushes...in 2006
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