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Shakespeare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 10:21 PM
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The cumulative effect of the Hillary campaign's racial comments is extremely disturbing.
Edited on Tue Mar-11-08 10:21 PM by Shakespeare
They're disturbing anyway on their own, but added up, they amount to what looks like a blatant, calculated, and steady cadence of race baiting:

Bill's comments about Obama and SC.

The campaign (not sure if it was Wolfson or one of the other surrogates) referring to Obama as a boy. Some of you screamed about context, but that is coded language, period. Nasty, ugly coded language.

Their excuse that of course Obama will win Mississippi, because, well...there are all those black voters.

Ferraro's multiple comments about Obama getting special treatment because he's black.

I may be missing some, but these are the four that come to mind right away. And all along the way, there's been a faux-innocent "why should anybody be fire/reprimanded?" response, which is revolting.

These statements don't happen in a vacuum, and they don't happen by accident. And I'm horrified by it.

Edited to add: Usual disclaimer: I'm not an Obama supporter OR a Hillary supporter (I was an Edwards supporter).
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meow mix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 10:24 PM
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1. cant forget "teamed up with Drudge on the photo smear"
another call out to the bigots
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Shakespeare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 10:26 PM
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3. Oh, that's right. Couple with the "as far as I know" bullshit.
Yep, that's another (double) example.
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psychopomp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 10:26 PM
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2. What do you all think of Sen. Clinton's "spade work" now?
I have been told that it was an innocent gaffe by Sen. Clinton. I have never been inclined to believe it was anything other than a cleverly deniable effort to inject a racist slant to the primary campaign.
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jgraz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 10:28 PM
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5. Oh yeah. She was DARING Obama to object
Nothing Hillary says is accidental.
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psychopomp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 10:37 PM
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15. I am glad that others agree with me on that point
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Mimosa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 11:01 PM
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26. Nothing Hillary says is accidental
Hillary herself is very smart and never 'drops her guard.' When she cried it wasn't for real, but it was fairly good acting. In a way I see through Hillary because being an INTJ I'm a teensy bit like her. Only I was brought up to be a Southern lady, so I'm happy to be a woman, and don't wish I wasn't. I don't envy men their power, either. When a woman who is qualified by temperament and experience runs for President, she'll have a better chance of being elected.

Hillary has campaigned in a win at all costs way, and the cost is too high. This country will be sorely wounded from the racial animosity which has been used by Hillary's minions.
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jgraz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 10:27 PM
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4. This is not a primary strategy. It's a 2012 strategy.
The Repugs need a way to "gracefully" introduce race against Obama, and Hillary Clinton is giving it to them. Once a Democrat has opened up this line of attack, the Repugs will feel free to use the most virulent, divisive bullshit to go after Obama.

Hillary knows exactly what she's doing.


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Shakespeare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 10:28 PM
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6. I've wondered about that, too.
I really, really hope that's not the case.
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jgraz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 10:29 PM
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9. Look at the totality of her actions since losing Wisconsin. There's nothing else that makes sense.
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rufus dog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 10:29 PM
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10. I wouldn't wonder too long
It is becoming very obvious.
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Medusa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 10:28 PM
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8. And that is what is so utterly disgusting about it all
that they are using Rovian, race-baiting tactics
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Divine Discontent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 10:28 PM
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7. I logged back in (I can't get away!) just to tell you good job!
Us Edwards backers sure do get it as a whole. These attacks are not just that, they are SMEARS. They stain the 'keep it above the belt' mentality of inter-party politics between the front runners and she is fully to BLAME for it. She's the candidate, and when she eventually concedes to Obama, and she will, I believe we won't be having to worry about hearing her be the front runner for president ever again!
www.cafepress.com/barackobama08
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BumRushDaShow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 10:30 PM
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11. And don't forget that Fast Eddie Rendell got the ball started in PA
Edited on Tue Mar-11-08 10:32 PM by BumRushDaShow
back on February 12 with this:

"You've got conservative whites here, and I think there are some whites who are probably not ready to vote for an African-American candidate," he said bluntly. Our eyes only met briefly, perhaps because the governor wanted to spare the only black guy in the room from feeling self-conscious for backing an obvious loser. "I believe, looking at the returns in my election, that had Lynn Swann <2006 Republican gubernatorial candidate> been the identical candidate that he was --well-spoken , charismatic, good-looking -- but white instead of black, instead of winning by 22 points, I would have won by 17 or so."


http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/08043/856727-153.stm
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Shakespeare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 10:33 PM
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12. Ugh.
Yeah, that's another one. Ugly.
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gore_as_a_compromise Donating Member (14 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 10:35 PM
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13. Hey check out this 2nd video of Geraldine defending Obama's Patriotism against Rethug Onslaught
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Doctor_J Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 10:36 PM
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14. Yes, it's been really disappointing
esp since blacks were so supportive of Bill in the 90's. I don't think it will do irreparable damage to Obama, but it is really revolting and demeaning to her as well as to the party.

Jeff, another Edwards supporter.
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cooolandrew Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 10:39 PM
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16. The main factor is campaigns sow ow they will run the WH which is evne more concering.
We know one thingfrom this Barack will hold accountable mis-conduct but will HRC.
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bicentennial_baby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 10:40 PM
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17. Don't forget Cuomo's "shuck and jive"
x(
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Shakespeare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 10:50 PM
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21. Series?
Geez, I hadn't heard that one. x(


:hi: :loveya:
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bicentennial_baby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 10:54 PM
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23. Wow, how'd you miss it?!
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Shakespeare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 11:30 PM
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27. whoa...I can't believe I missed that.
x(

Aren't we supposed to be the party that doesn't do that shit?
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Rageneau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 10:40 PM
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18. Hillary is guilty because she is accused. She is 'racist' because BO needs a racist to run against.
These days, it's a sure-fire winner to run against racism. And if your opponent is well-known to NOT be a racist -- in fact, has a 40 year public record devoid of a hint of racism -- then the racism charges have to be manufactured against her. And so they were.

The result: Obamaniacs seem Hillary in a white sheet with a flaming cross. Every statement she makes is intentionally misinterpreted to make them seem racist. Every time Drudge runs a picture of Obama --intimating, but not actually SAYING, that it came from the HRC campaign t(in order to trasj BOTH campaigns) The obamabots throw out the Constitution and the presumption of innocence in order toi accuse he of some thing new.

Yes, there is racism in this campaign, and yes, it is causing the election to go in a way it otherwise would not. But the Racism is not on the part of Hillary. She is the victim of it being used against her in the same way Rove used Kerry's strengths against him.
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Shakespeare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 10:42 PM
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19. No, she's racist because of the words coming out of her own (and her surrogates' own) mouths.
Please don't attempt to excuse it. And most CERTAINLY do not call her a goddamn "victim." :puke:
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Spider Jerusalem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 10:44 PM
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20. One of her campaign strategists ADMITTED...
Edited on Tue Mar-11-08 10:53 PM by Spider Jerusalem
as long ago as the South Carolina primary (and to the chief political correspondent for the Associated Press, no less)...that it was a tactic of the Clinton campaign to attempt to marginalise Obama by painting him as the 'black candidate'. That is a BLATANTLY racist tactic. Spin it how you like.
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RaleighNCDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 10:53 PM
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22. She's no racist.
She's a pragmatist who made a calculated decision to use race to undermine her opponant.

To my mind, that's worse.
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Shakespeare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 10:55 PM
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24. Yep, that's worse.
Blech.
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rucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 10:56 PM
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25. And the timing of both of those comments...
on the eve of primaries where democratic voters are in the majority and Obama was polling way ahead. Her surrogates throw the black voters under the bus, then after she loses the state, she backs up and does it again by being dismissive of Obama's win.
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