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TheZug Donating Member (886 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 10:25 PM
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How dare he be black, the lucky bastard!
Edited on Tue Mar-11-08 10:33 PM by TheZug
NO ONE has been luckier in this country than the black man! He gets everything! I thought the American Indian was lucky, but really he doesn't hold a candle to the black man!

It's unfair because America has for so many decades been yearning for a black man to come along so they can vote for him to be president. It's just like being chocolate in that carton of Neapolitan ice cream--everyone knows the kids will go for that flavor first!!!

I mean, how DARE he be black and run for president?!? Didn't someone tell him this was the year for a white woman to be elected? She gets to go first! The black man has gotten so much of the good stuff already, that lucky guy, so he should wait his turn. His time will come. But not just yet. The white people will let him know when it's his time. WAIT!
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skooooo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 10:27 PM
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1. I think there is a contingent of people...

...many of which are 70s feminists (*though not all* 70 feminists) that are just flipping out.
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tekisui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 10:31 PM
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3. How dare he!!!
This was HER turn!
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Berzerkley Donating Member (20 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 10:36 PM
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5. Shame on you Obama!!!
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TheZug Donating Member (886 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 10:31 PM
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4. 'Cause no one--especially not Blackie--is going to take what's their's.
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EffieBlack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 10:29 PM
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2. Bingo!
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 10:52 PM
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TheZug Donating Member (886 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 10:55 PM
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7. Umm, not sure that was the point . . .
Edited on Tue Mar-11-08 10:58 PM by TheZug
I'm sure that some blacks are voting for him because he's black, just as some women are voting for Hillary because she's a woman. But that wasn't the point.
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MaraJade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 10:57 PM
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8. Of course that was your point. . .
Don't be patronizing. . .

:mad:
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TheZug Donating Member (886 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 11:01 PM
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11. Umm, wow.
The point I was trying to make through sarcasm was that it really hasn't ever been "lucky" to be black when running for president.
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MzShellG Donating Member (835 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 11:26 PM
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18. How can she or anyone NOT totally get that? Duhhh!!!
:rofl:
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jab105 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 10:57 PM
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9. I'm white, and I'm voting for him because he inspires me...
Edited on Tue Mar-11-08 10:58 PM by jab105
he makes me think that people can get back into politics, and make American politics better...
He makes me think that we can get corporate money out of politics...
He makes me believe that acting tough by being a bully isn't the same as standing up for your principles...


I don't give a fuck why your mom or anyone votes for him, I don't even know how you can just put black people in a little clump like that...but it is incredibly insulting and ignorant to say that most people are voting for him because of his race...

It is just so degrading to (IMO!) the most amazing and inspiring politician of my generation!!

(I assume that you do know that the original post was sarcasm - right?)
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Berzerkley Donating Member (20 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 10:58 PM
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10. Blacks did not overwealming favor Obama right from the beginning
He had to win many of them over because a lot of them had strong feelings for Bill.
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tabasco Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 11:04 PM
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12. Most black people don't think logically? Alerted.
I don't care if you're Moms Mabely, that's a stupid fucking thing to say.
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crispini Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 11:07 PM
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13. Well, to me,
"Black people are voting for Obama because he's black" is not the same thing as “If Obama was a white man, he would not be in this position.... (snip) He happens to be very lucky to be who he is."

To me, Ferraro's comment implied that Obama is in some way not as talented, or intelligent, or a good candidate, and that he's getting all this attention just because he's black. He seems to me to be very talented, AND he's black.
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Kaylee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 11:14 PM
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14. I see it differently.....
If anything I (also a black woman) was slow to warm up to Barack. Polls suggest a lot of "us" were. I didn't feel he had a chance, so I didn't pay a lot of attention to him. Remember when the black commentators were arguing over whether he was "Black" enough?...whatever that means.

If anything blacks were late to the Obama train. It wasn't until he started winning that I took a second look at him and liked what I saw. Here was a man who spoke of what we as Dems had been missing for all these Bush years. He was going to restore ethics, integrity, truth and justice. Mere catch-phrases for well thought out policies and plans.

Going into the Potomac Primaries I was still torn over who to vote for. Obama was new and had an exciting and fresh outlook on what government could be and how we could be better citizens. Hillary was running on her experience as a first lady. I ultimately went with a dream....foolish? maybe. But Hillary's tactics as of late have not made me regret my last minute decision one bit.

So, you may want to denigrate our entire race, but I realize that Blacks are not a homogeneous monolith and all of us came to be where we are in our decisions via our own paths....and are not simply looking for a handout from the Obama Administration.
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TheZug Donating Member (886 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 11:23 PM
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17. That's my understanding too.
I don't get this line I've heard about how he's "running up the score" by getting black votes because he's black. As you say, many blacks did not jump on the bandwagon. So he's not really "lucky" to be getting all the black vote--he convinced many of them to vote for him, and the Clinton campaign convinced many of them to vote against her.

The other implication of Ferraro's statements is that white people are entranced or something by his blackness, which is a curious notion, to say the least. If that's truly a phenomenon, then it's an awfully recent one.

Now it may be true that his heritage is not a hindrance to his campaign, as it would have been in the past, and that may be something that some older people like Ferraro have a hard time dealing with.
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Cali_Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 11:17 PM
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16. Blacks aren't logical huh
wow
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boppers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 11:16 PM
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15. No, no no....
You've got it all wrong.

What she meant to say was that since he's an Irish-African-American, he has "the luck of the Irish!", *and* he's also black.
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