Tonight was the final straw. I'm done with the Clintons.

[David Zephyr]

Nothing can sanitize this anymore.

The pattern that began as early as Iowa and has continued even until today is clear.

In fact, the only real consistent thing about Hillary's campaign has been its racism.

I'm done with them.

I've seen enough.

It's all been intentional.

Vile.

[Jillian]

1. What did Hillary do today that was racist?

[tekisui]

2. She defended racist comments.

[Jillian]

13. What are you talking about?

She didn't defend Ferraro's comments.

[tekisui]

25. You are right. Clinton disagreed with the racist comments. But, she

kept Ferraro on, and they still support each other.

[Jillian]

29. She is a supporter, not an employee of the campaign.

[tekisui]

30. She has a postion in the campaign. She is a fundraiser.

[Jillian]

35. Yeah - so is Jack Nicholson. She is not an advisor or even an insider.

You cannot control everything people say about you.

And for the record, I don't think Powers should have left Obama's campaign.

[tekisui]

39. She is a surrogate. When she talks it it with the campaign's blessing.

[saracat]

41. That is a freaking lie. She is a professional analyst and political historian

She is "paid" to offer commentary and give speeches at private institutions.She does not get "paid"by Hillary and has no official position with the campaign.She has raised money but she isn't a surrogate.

[SoxFan]

43. Samantha Power?

She is a Harvard faculty member and an author. She does not get "paid" by Obama and has no official position with the campaign. She gives occasional commentary on behalf of Obama and did a few events in NH (less than an hour from Cambridge), but isn't a major surrogate like Kennedy, Kerry, Sebelius, or Napolitano.

[emilyg]

62. She was part of his team.

[grantcart]

57. i believe she is in fact on the Clinton finance committee

[tekisui]

68. She is an unpaid adviser, the same as Power.

She is an economic adviser, isn't she?

[VolcanoJen]

49. You can say she's not an "insider" after she's written Op/Eds....

... to the New York Times in support of Clinton's candidacy, and, most recently, in support of the superdelegates voting against their constituencies?

The only discernible reason Clinton supporters would continue to claim that Ferraro "isn't official" is that they're as disturbed by her comments as I was.

[annie1]

52. i think she *is* official. but if she's not there is a difference...

the comment is still revolting, but you can't fire someone who's not official.

[VolcanoJen]

56. Power wasn't *official* either.

She at least severed ties with the campaign, rather immediately.

To state that the Clintons can't strong-arm one into leaving the campaign is naive, at best, and most generous.

Nothing in politics happens by accident. The Clintonian laissez-faire response to Ferraro's comments is worth more words than I have the energy to type.

[annie1]

59. not from me, i think ferraro's disgusting and should take a long walk off a short peer...

and yes, powers was official, she was his adviser and he rightfully dismissed her. however, obama supporters HERE are still supporting powers statement and jumping on the bandwagon. pretty disgusting.

[VolcanoJen]

61. OK

Ferraro was able to score, twice, Op/Eds in The New York Times for the sole purpose of pushing the Clinton candidacy. That's the most valuable print real estate in the free world.

I think the two are rather disconnected. But to claim that Ferraro is not a part of the Clinton machine is, honestly, ludicrous.

[Shakespeare]

26. I just saw the clip of Hillary. She tried to smile it away, and did NOT condemn the remarks.

She reminded me of Peggy Noonan, who has the infuriating habit of being patronizing and faux-motherly. It was her campaign's equivalent of "boys will be boys." And it was revolting.

[Jillian]

31. Funny, I saw that clip and thought she was sincere.

[Shakespeare]

37. Whether you thought she was sincere or not, she did NOT condemn the remarks.

Her excuse? Oh, people on both campaigns have said bad thing....

Fucking SPARE me.

[Cha]

44. I hate that fucking excuse from the hilarys...

"both them are not clean"..give me a fooking break.

hilary is vile.

[bellasgrams]

45. What G. F. said was the truth like it or not. If BO was white he

would not have any chance of being nominated or gotten this far. A white guy just couldn't have done it on his experience, or knowledge. I don't mean that as a put down, it's just fact. I liked him to till I started listening to him. I got absolutely nothing from his message. What's he going to do about immigration, the economy, bringing jobs back, the VA hospitals, a draft, no child left behind, are we going to keep teaching to tests, or test the teaching, how are we going to bring peace to the middle east, what are we going to do about the debt to China, he can jump and down and yell hope and change all he wants but that's not going to put bread and butter or the table.

[VolcanoJen]

53. Thanks for totally forgetting about John Edwards' nomination to the Vice Presidency in 2004.

"A white guy just couldn't have done it on his experience, or knowledge."

John Edwards, a southern, white male, four years into his first-ever elected position, embarked on a presidential run in 2004 that led him to the proud role of being on the Democratic ticket.

Full disclosure: I was a full-throated Edwards supporter in 2004, and am an Obama supporter in 2008, and I don't feel one bit conflicted.

[Shakespeare]

63. No, she wasn't correct, and you just outted yourself as a racist.

Thanks for playing.

[progressive_realist]

67. You've never listened to one of his speeches, have you?

You're going off sound-bites and what other people have said, aren't you? For starters, his speaking style doesn't include jumping up and down. Secondly, there are always specifics in his speeches. Lots of them. "Hope" and "change" are just themes, like Clinton's "experience" theme.

But don't let reality dissuade you from holding the opinions your preconceptions have created for you...




And the Clinton camp accuses us of being cult-like. :eyes:

[bellasgrams]

46. What G. F. said was the truth like it or not. If BO was white he

would not have any chance of being nominated or gotten this far. A white guy just couldn't have done it on his experience, or knowledge. I don't mean that as a put down, it's just fact. I liked him to till I started listening to him. I got absolutely nothing from his message. What's he going to do about immigration, the economy, bringing jobs back, the VA hospitals, a draft, no child left behind, are we going to keep teaching to tests, or test the teaching, how are we going to bring peace to the middle east, what are we going to do about the debt to China, he can jump and down and yell hope and change all he wants but that's not going to put bread and butter or the table.

[ORDem]

65. That is your (racist) opinion. All racists think they are right within

their racist mental framework. You brought your racist mindset along with you when you evaluated Obama but you just can't see it.

:kick:

[bvar22]

70. Thats why Al Sharpton and Carol Braun swept the 2004 Primary....

Oh Wait....No they didn't.

So much for your Race Based Theory.


Shaaaaaammmmme on Yoooouuuuu!

[Heathen57]

72. Although he has talked about those issues,

You can get a detailed outline of any of the issues on his website:

http://www.barackobama.com/issues/

I think you might want to read these issues and his plans for them before you toss out the accusation that he is only where he is because of his skin color.

[ariesgem]

60. "boys will be boys"

That was my take on it. There was nothing authentic in her "regret". Her smiling told it all.

[Kahuna]

71. There is no way to convince me that this wasn't a deliberate strategy.

Just more of the same that they've been doing all along.

[annie1]

51. she rejected the comment. But isn't this like your 10th last straw?

[LVjinx]

69. You're just supposed to notice the quantity, not the quality.

More complaints = more people must be upset, right?

[Zynx]

3. I've heard this accusation over and over again and I still can't figure it out.

[Not the Only One]

4. Hillary figures she'll destroy our party if we won't give her what she wants

Hillary's campaign is clusterbombing innocent civilian Democrats.

Dean, please put an end to this nightmare soon.

[BlueStater]

5. Oh, buzz off

You've been bashing Hillary for months now. I've read your posts.

[maseman]

12. What happened with Ferraro

is sickening. I have not been a Hillary fan but this was blatantly racist. And for Hillary to IMMEDIATELY not stand up and ask GF to go away is even more disturbing.

[Jillian]

18. Kinda like McClurkin?

[annie1]

55. totally. what if mcclurkin said "i've been delivered from blackness"

[Double T]

6. Racism is a really WEAK excuse.

The LAST THING the Clinton's are is racists; blind 'faith' in obama is clouding your judgment.

[XemaSab]

So try to defend Ferraro's comments today, yesterday, and in '88.

And then tell me why Hillary doesn't kick her to the curb so fast your head would spin.

Please. I've got all evening.

[saltpoint]

7. It's quite their little campaign hallmark. Billy Shaheen in New Hampshire.

The Big Dawg himself in South Carolina.

Now we have Geraldine Ferraro flapping her insane mouth on FOX News.

Jesus.

[LisaL]

8. When were you ever not done with them?

[anonymous171]

9. She's doing this for PA.

If she can succeed at maintaining her stranglehold of the white vote in PA, then she (along w/ the media) can claim some kind of "mandate" if she wins.

[sandnsea]

24. Agree completely

I guess if she wins I'll take my lead from the black community, but I know if any Republican ran a campaign half as bad as this they'd be beaten into oblivion. Look at what that one macaca tape did to Allen. I can't believe the people defending her campaign. This is really humiliating. I don't know how the Republicans are going to turn it against Dems, but I know they will.

[mtnsnake]

10. Yeah we know. How many more times are you going to tell us?

[Jillian]

22. Oh - is that what this is, just a DUer needing attention?

[ruggerson]

11. Isn't this about the eighth time you've been "done" with "them"

[mtnsnake]

14. Yeah, but he knows it's always good for at least 50 recs. n/t

[Catherine Vincent]

23. Yup!

[DiggerDan]

15. I took my framed 'Clinton 92' campaign poster down after the Drudge picture

Very, very disapointing. That was my first election. I hope one day I can get over those feelings but it's going to take awhile.

[cooolandrew]

The nostagia for Clintons is understandalbe but it does seem the system has changed them.

[cooolandrew]

16. The nostagia for Clintons is understandalbe but it does seem the system has changed them.

[Catherine Vincent]

17. We're not stupid. You were always "done". nt

[FrenchieCat]

28. Actually, based on a question you asked in another thread.....

I'm not sure if what you are saying now is really true...about what you aren't, I mean.

[ExtraGriz]

19. you never supported her!!!

holy kwap post.

[Johnny__Motown]

20. Welcome back into the Democratic party

[Catherina]

21. Thanks. My parents announced that 2 days ago.

I think the Obama campaign should cut every single one of her supporters a small thank you check for all the hard work they did turning people off to her.

[AX10]

27. Again?

How many times have you posted this?

[MaraJade]

32. Have you been on MARS for the past couple of years?

Did you see the avalanches there? Good!
It does seem so if you believe in any way that Hillary or any of her followers are racist.

Sheesh!

Good Luck with the GE. . .


:eyes:

(one mad BLACK WOMAN)

[Asia Expat]

33. You should have titled this post..

My eighty-seventh anti-Hillary epiphany.

[AtomicKitten]

34. Welcome to the sad reality of this race.

[goldcanyonaz]

36. Isn't this a weekly type post for you?

[Asia Expat]

38. Seems more like daily.

[AGirl]

58. LOL.

[Tatiana]

40. I think you're in the acceptance stage.

:hug: Hey, it's not so bad. Sure, you feel a bit disillusioned, but at least you honestly know what (and who) you are dealing with. No need to waste time on lackluster excuses or convoluted justifications.

Thank goodness we see it now and not later.

[saracat]

42. Aren't you repeating yourself? You have stated this before and I can't imagine why anyone should

care what you think. I happen to believe Obama's Campaign has been vile.

[Beacool]

47. Racism?????

Excuse me, but it's not racist when 9 out of 10 blacks vote for Obama in MS?????????

Oh, the usual hypocrisy..........

[TheZug]

48. Okay, but what took you so long?

[anamandujano]

50. He wasn't sure how many final straws he could have.

[New Dawn]

54. K&R

[Horse with no Name]

64. So let me get this straight

McClurkin--Okay because he is just a supporter but not in an official capacity of the campaign but hates Gays
Ferraro-Bad because she is just a supporter but not in an official capacity of the campaign but you perceive her to be racist


Okay Gotcha.

You are just a typical obamafan.
No rhyme or reason to your hate.
Color me...not surprised at all. :eyes:

[anamandujano]

66. You better edit that last sentence or they'll start foaming at the mouth.