Just in - Ferraro Steps Down From Clinton's Finance Committee

[ariesgem]

according to CNN

[scheming daemons]

1. About fucking time...........

[Yes We Did]

22. It's too late. She should have done it yesterday.

[WillYourVoteBCounted]

45. Mission accomplished, now to wash Hillary's hands of guilt

its all a set up. Clinton does it, then says "sorry" after the fact.

Rove style mechanics.

Time for party leaders to apply the Zell Miller rule to Shillary.

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

110. Too late is right. The damage is done - to Obama that is.

[americanstranger]

2. Good.

Now... did she jump or was she pushed?

- as

[Cooley Hurd]

3. Good - she needed to!

:thumbsup:

[NoBorders]

4. But not sorry--only b/c Obama campaign attacking her!

What BS.

[anamandujano]

Now the Obama campaign will search for someone else to attack.

They'll stay on this for a few days more though.

[cali]

51. She fucked up, just as Samantha Power did

It's appropriate that they both left the respective campaigns. People who make such controversial remarks are just distractions for the candidates.

[DadOf2LittleAngels]

52. Really

You think Hills camp can avoid race baiting divisive comments for a whole three days....

Wow you give them credit..

[anigbrowl]

74. (to quote a pro-Clinton argument)

Well, how can Hillary possibly govern anything when she lets Obama's campaign push her around like this?

I don't mean that seriously, by the way. I'm just pointing out the idiocy of such an argument - I seriously doubt that any of the people who made it in regards to Samantha Power's resignation will be back to consider the philosophical implications.

[marshall]

79. The Obama camp won't have to wait long

Somebody else will step up and make some foolish personal attack on Obama. If it backfires they'll be thrown under the bus, and on to the next acolyte.

[backscatter712]

18. She's only sorry she got called out.

Not sorry she said it.

Bout time we forced the Klanton camp to blink.

[high density]

21. Ah yes, she's the victim!

It's not the fault of her stupid words, of course.

[Independent-Voter]

34. That's the story of Klinton's Kooky Kampaign!

[Cali_Democrat]

49. KKK?

[tabatha]

40. I though I just heard Obama saying something that sounded

nothing like an attack.

[anamandujano]

5. Will Obama repay the favor by telling Bill Bradley to take a hike?

[Cooley Hurd]

14. Why - did Bradley make racist comments?

:eyes:

[anamandujano]

30. Threatened black supers if they did not bow. Says the white supers like

Kennedy and Kerry will be ok to go against their constituents and vote Obama.

edit to add--

JIM LEHRER: And, Senator Bradley, Barack Obama, right?

BILL BRADLEY (D), Former Presidential Candidate: One hundred percent.

JIM LEHRER: OK.

Starting with you, Senator Bradley, do you believe that both Clinton and Obama are viable candidates and both should go on from this point on?

BILL BRADLEY: I think Barack Obama has a much stronger chance of beating John McCain in the general election. I think Hillary is flawed in many ways, and particularly if you look at her husband's unwillingness to release the names of the people who contributed to his presidential library.

And the reason that is important -- you know, are there favors attached to $500,000 or $1 million contributions? And what do I mean by favors? I mean, pardons that are granted; investigations that are squelched; contracts that are awarded; regulations that are delayed.

These are important questions. The people deserve to know. And we deserve, as Democrats, to know before a nominee is selected, because we don't want things to explode in a general election against John McCain.

JIM LEHRER: But as a practical matter, based on what happened yesterday, winning three out of four and where the delegate count rests right now, do you think she still has a really good -- there's a real good possibility she could win the nomination, Senator?

BILL BRADLEY: No, I really don't...

JIM LEHRER: You don't?

BILL BRADLEY: ... because, mathematically, even if she won 60 percent of the rest of the races, she'd still be behind in pledged delegates. And that would mean that the super-delegates would end up making the decision.

And I think increasingly super-delegates are going to go with Barack Obama, particularly in districts that he won substantially.

I don't think you're going to find congressmen, even congresspeople that are behind Hillary early, go against their district, because if they go against their district, they're going to find that they could very well have a primary challenge the next time.

--------snip

JIM LEHRER: All right, let's go through the super-delegate thing. Beginning with you again, picking up with you, Senator Bradley, how do you feel about the super-delegates? Should they play a key role, if it's necessary, in order to throw this thing one way or another finally?

BILL BRADLEY: Well, if it goes as far as the convention, they are clearly going to play an important role. And the point I was making is that basically they're going to make a political decision.

And the political decision is going to be a combination of what is best for the country and the party and what is best for their own political circumstance.

And it's not in Massachusetts. I assume that if somebody was a strong Clinton person, they could challenge Ted Kennedy in the primary. I don't think they would win, but they could.

There are plenty of people who supported Barack Obama and in districts across this country, not in Massachusetts, but across this country, and not just African-American districts, that went overwhelmingly for Barack Obama.

I think certainly a congressional candidate has got to think twice about an Obama campaign challenged in the next election from people who are not novices. They know how to organize. And so I think this will factor in to the kind of decisions that are made by super-delegates.

JIM LEHRER: And you think it's perfectly legitimate for the super-delegates to play this kind of role?

BILL BRADLEY: Absolutely. There are no rules with super-delegates. They're not pledged. All of them could shift at the last moment.

[Cooley Hurd]

38. Sure would like a link to your claim...

...if you wouldn't mind.;)

[sorrybushisfromtexas]

43. Give us a link

Give a link to that comment that you say Bradley made.

[anamandujano]

50. added on edit

This is from the transcript of the Jim Lehrer news hour.

link--
http://www.pbs.org/newshour/bb/white_house/jan-june08/demdiscuss_03-05.html

[onenote]

57. where in this interview did Bradley make a "threat"?

WTF?

[anamandujano]

58. I can't help you if you can't read.

[anigbrowl]

83. You should try reading this

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paranoia

[sorrybushisfromtexas]

84. I am asking sincerely

Where does he say anything remotely resembling what you said. Please quote it. I just don't see it. I wish you would point it out. I am not trying to flame you, I have read it three times and simply can not see what you are seeing.

[onenote]

105. And I can't help it if you can't back up what you claim with anything specific in the article

If you can, and do, I will be the first to admit I was wrong.

[cali]

60. Bradley wasn't referring just to black SDs- he made that clear

we can read. Keep trying to peddle that stinking pile of shit.

[onenote]

106. its pathetic isn't it.

[eissa]

16. Did Bradley say that the only reason

Hillary is where she's at is because she has a vagina? You may not like what he has to say about your candidate, but he has not been blatantly offensive as Ferraro has. The ones that did cross the line (Powers, etc.) were let go, and let go quickly.

[Nedsdag]

28. Boy, have you drank the Hillary Kool-Aid.

What did Bradley say that was racist?

::crickets::

[EmperorHasNoClothes]

6. Gee, I guess there might have been something wrong with what she said after all

[Cant trust em]

7. great. now we can talk about something else.

Moving on to another issue.

[TechBear_Seattle]

23. Not so fast there

First, we have to hash out the particulars of Ferraro's resignation. Then we have to discuss to death the reasons, then the implications, then which candidate will benefit more from her resignation. With a bit of care, we can probably milk another three or four weeks of in-fighting from this whole fiasco.

[bunnies]

8. Tit. Tat. nt

[MethuenProgressive]

9. Hooray! At last an end to the endless 'Let's All Hate Ferraro' threads!

we can Hope, can't we?

[IndianaJones]

11. she could have gained the Obamatons respect if she claimed to be ex-African American. nt.

[enki23]

20. what in holy hell is that supposed to mean?

.

[xultar]

32. McClurkin who is used to be gay.

[IndianaJones]

35. Obamatons defended the ex-gay dudes bigotry with passion. I figure they are very consistent. nt.

[cali]

68. that's a lie.

I could hardly have made my disgust with Obama over the McClurkin think clearer. And I'm not in the minority of Obama supporters. I support him despite that. And plenty of hill supporters support her despite her vote for the IWR.

[IndianaJones]

85. no it isn't. homophobia was rampant and tolerated during that time...

by many that are most vocal about Ferraro. I won't say it was a majority, but if it was a minority, it was a very vocal one. Look at recent threads and the attacks made upon those that bring it up, as if it happened decades and not months ago.

[redqueen]

89. There's a slight difference though...

that guy wasn't going on national fricking talk shows and polluting the airwaves with his nonsense.

This person... well...

[IndianaJones]

93. there is a difference. McClurkin was used by Obama to specifically pander to bigots.

It seems to have worked well too.

And the people I hear on the radio and elsewhere that are claiming the Clintons and Ferraro among others are racists will reap what they have sown in November if he is the nominee.

[redqueen]

95. But you don't think Ferraro was allowed to go on and on and on

in order to pander to racists?

[IndianaJones]

100. on and on? I don't like what she said, and lord knows I don't have a problem...

calling most white people racists. But hearing this being said about the Clintons and Geraldine Ferraro, whom I have seen speak and is outspoken about equal and civil rights, even when it is not popular to do so is disgusting. I hear it on the radio now. You wanna talk about scorched earth? I would have to seriously think about voting for a ticket with Obama on it as Clintons running mate, let alone at the top.

[redqueen]

111. Great.

[IndianaJones]

114. like I said..you guys are gonna reap what you sow in November. nt.

[redqueen]

116. Um, no. It's not me claiming I won't vote for the nominee.

Also, I don't blame my poor choices on others. IMO that's weak.


Did you notice this?

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x5043835

You really think that campaign is capable of going up against the GOP? It's one screwup after another.

[IndianaJones]

117. no, its you claiming that people I have respected and liked for years are now racists.

but if he is nominated, lets put all that behind us? lol.

but good luck with the nominee and peace.

[redqueen]

118. Yes, it's someone else's fault that you'd not vote against McSame.

Perfect logic there.

[leftofcool]

17. That will never happen until the next Dem goes down

for either saying something stupid or doing something stupid. Dems eat their own

[HCE SuiGeneris]

39. Now you can concentrate on KO!!!!

:eyes:

[Bucky]

87. I'm for Obama and I don't hate Ferraro.

I was saddened by her comments and her tonedeafness, but only a fool would think she's actually a racist.

[redqueen]

92. What about her saying the same thing about Jackson in 88?

Is "tonedeaf" enough to explain it?

[Bucky]

119. She's being shallow; she's being insensitive. That's not the same as racist.

I hate seeing the charge of racism being debvalued like this.

[redqueen]

120. Fair enough.

Thanks.

[dansolo]

121. She is politically calculating

And more than willing to use racists to further her (and Hillary's) goals. I don't know which is worse. It is the difference between ignorance, and sociopathy.

[theboss]

10. What answer in Trivial Pursuit: The 80s will be the next to step down?

Dee Snyder?
Fawn Hall?
Irene Cara?
Bernard Goetz?

[FrenchieCat]

12. Her self serving letter of resignation to Hillary was .......

despicable, and doesn't even address the issue.

Said she's not sorry.

and blames the Obama campaign for attacking her. :eyes:

[wndycty]

19. Where is the letter?

:kick:

[ariesgem]

72. It's posted down thread.

[bunnies]

25. Is there a link? nt

[ariesgem]

61. No solid link yet.

It's still breaking on the CNN website

[bunnies]

73. I cant wait to see that letter. What a joke. nt

[Catherine Vincent]

26. They are attacking her.

At least the Obama people here on DU.

[Cha]

44. And hilary's bobbin' her up and down agreeing..

that the mean ol Obama campaign is not nice to girls.

[ProgressiveEconomist]

46. Did she once again announce, "I give PAID speeches"? Seems like her private

agenda involves many future paydays based on these crypto-racist favors for HRC.

I wonder how many more times before Pennsylvania she'll "codetalk" again as a "fox News Analyst"

[NightWatcher]

13. haha, but only after making a stink in the news for days

Samantha Powers was out immed. after making her faux pass.

Hillary is incapable of running a smooth ship.

[David Zephyr]

But she got her message to white voters in Pennsylvania: "Barack is black"

This woman disgusts me.

[xultar]

24. Yeah, like they didn't fucking know. ROFL. DAYUM I bet they are shocked as shit.

[AtomicKitten]

29. ClintonCo is willing to throw people under the bus to impart that racist message.

And then her minions have the audacity to screech "sexism" when she is called on these vile tactics.

[goldcanyonaz]

36. You think they know Clinton's a woman yet, or should we let that outta the bag too?

[MethuenProgressive]

37. OMG!!!11!1!! They didn't know??? Thsi is HUGH!!!!11!!

The Obamas fake hysensitivity uber-outrage du jour would be comical if not so deeply based in Hate.

[Name removed]

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[Catherina]

112. What happened? I'm on the road and missed that. Details?

Thanks

[HeraldSquare212]

15. Amazing - she's blaming the Obama campaign in her resignation.

Nice.

[Yes We Did]

27. She's too much. I don't trust anyone who says... In Nineteen Hundred...

[anonymous171]

31. Scary black man attacked me! OH NOES!!!

They are really playing this one aren't they

[madrchsod]

59. hillary is going to have to find a new stooge

[GoldieAZ49]

107. And that will be the next news cycle

more negatives

[redqueen]

33. At least it didn't take as long as it did for HRC to admit she was wrong about her IWR vote.

:grr:

[bigbrother05]

41. Now there is a Women for Human Rights

:sarcasm: just so there is no mistake

[GoldieAZ49]

42. LMAO - so her name is removed from the 'committee list'

BFD!

She was not a paid employee, and she will continue to raise funds for her

So, some victory eh?

[ProSense]

53. Same with Power, huh?

Maybe Geraldine Ferraro decided stature and goodwill are overrated

Note to Ferraro: For the love of God, stop digging

Ferraro went out disgraced!

[GoldieAZ49]

77. She had a fund raiser, she did not go 'out' anywhere

while you will not hear from Power again, Ferraro will continue to be a paid political pundit

and she will continue to raise money for the campaign of her choosing

[LaurenG]

47. She did the right thing

though I feel this entire situation is sad.


:shakes head:

[GoldieAZ49]

48. LMAO - so her name is removed from the 'committee list'

BFD!

She said yesterday or the day before that she didn't care if her name was on the list or not

She was not a paid employee, and she will continue to raise funds for her

So, some victory eh?

[redqueen]

55. Will she still be going on all the media outlets who'll have her, repeating and defending

her awful remarks?

If not, then yeah, it's enough of a victory for me.

[GoldieAZ49]

64. She is a paid political pundit - she will continue to be on various media outlets

and now with more attitude than ever and no campaign affiliation

pretty hollow 'victory'

[redqueen]

75. Frickin heck.

:banghead:

:wtf:

:nuke:

[americanstranger]

69. Worse yet - she's PAID to be a Fox News analyst!

Whaddya wanna bet she starts appearing 3-4 times a week?

- as

[redqueen]

80. Christ almighty...

what a ghastly trainwreck.

Thanks yet again, Clinton Campaign! :nuke:

[madrchsod]

54. i thought she was`t on the committee

well now she can work for fox news full time...why was she on the finance committee while working for fox?

[americanstranger]

56. The resignation letter....

Dear Hillary –

I am stepping down from your finance committee so I can speak for myself and you can continue to speak for yourself about what is at stake in this campaign.

The Obama campaign is attacking me to hurt you.

I won't let that happen.

Thank you for everything you have done and continue to do to make this a better world for my children and grandchildren.

You have my deep admiration and respect.

Gerry

Read more: http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/03/12/ferraro... /

Just as I expected. She lit the building on fire before leaving town.

Just a guess, but I figure she'll be taking full advantage of that Fox News gig for the rest of the primary.

- as

[madrchsod]

63. good place to attack obama from is`t it....

[ProSense]

65. Hillary needs to reject and denouce her statement here. Not good enough! n/t

[onenote]

66. Next up: Gerry rails about quotas and minority business set asides

Says "the reason James Meredith got into college is because he wasn't white" and the only reason "black contractors can get government business is that they aren't white-owned"

At least it seems like that's what she's ready to do next.

[high density]

70. Fixed the link

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/03/12/ferraro-steps-down/

[americanstranger]

76. Thx.

I C'nP'd it from LBN.

(I think i just made alphabet soup.) :D

- as

[redqueen]

86. This is outrageous.

*shakes head sadly*

[GoldieAZ49]

98. oh yes she will

she is pissed and is damn sure going to be speaking out

after the comment about being attacked by the Obama campaign because she is white I bet Fox News will be asking her if she thinks it is the Farrakan influence in Obama's campaign that pushed the racist charge against her - I can just hear Hannity going there, on TV and radio

This could do so much more damage.....

[americanstranger]

103. It can do damage, all right. It already has.

But nobody (least of all Ferraro) seems to realize that it's Ferraro herself has been damaged.

The Clinton campaign played her. I'm betting her WikiPedia entry's already been updated to include her bigotry.

Sad finish for a trailblazer in the Democratic party. Now she'll be known more as that Woman Who Doesn't Like Teh Blacks than the first woman to get on a national ticket.

- as

[GoldieAZ49]

104. That is what I mean by getting worse

she is not going to quietly go away after being labeled a racist

she is going to vindicate herself passionately, and all the damage will be done to the democratic party

[Independent-Voter]

109. For being the Token Woman on the Clusterfuck of a ticket in '84, she's sure bitter.

[Catherina]

113. !!!!!!!!!!!! What a vicious, vile POS! n/t

[Kelvin Mace]

62. Still no denouncement of Ferraro's comments

So, not quite enough.

[madrchsod]

78. hillary has no intention of denouncing ferraro

she got her message out by using ferraro

[Kelvin Mace]

122. Exscept, she appears to have done so

just using the word "repudiate", instead of "denounce".

repudiate - to reject as untrue or unjust
denounce - to pronounce, especially publicly, to be blameworthy or evil

A distinct difference.

I give her apology a D+

[tishaLA]

67. HRC should have demanded it yesterday

This was allowed to fester for too long *and* her resignation letter still refuses to take responsibility. It's the big ol' black man out to get her. Whatever.

[ProgressiveEconomist]

71. FULL LETTER LINK -- with NO apology -- at CNN URL:

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/03/12/ferraro-steps-down/

[Occam Bandage]

96. Man, what a whiny non-apology.

[Bucky]

81. Cardinal sin: Ferraro let herself become the story, not the candidate.

Clinton supporters should be happy with this. She spent three days making it look like Sen. Clinton couldn't manager her own campaign staff. Sadly, not a graceful exit for one of the pioneers among women in politics.

[GoldieAZ49]

102. She didn't exit - you will hear so much more from her now

and the spin is on

what a friggin nightmare

[Madam Mossfern]

82. Where's the apology?

She could apologize and say that she didn't mean for her statements to be racist. According to what I've read here, her stepping down is just another strategic move.

[NDambi]

88. Bye Bye Blackbird...lmao buh bye Gerri

[GoldieAZ49]

90. as a paid political pundit - now without any campaign affiliation

She will speak out all she wants, and now with an attitude against Obama campaign in whole

A Democratic Political Icon with Attitude, this is only going to get worse

read her email to Hillary

[NDambi]

99. As I said..buh bye Gerri...let her keep talking..in fact I encourage it..

Again, buh bye gerri gerri

[mod mom]

91. ""The Obama campaign is attacking me to hurt you. I won't let that happen." WTF?

She doesn't have a clue. It has nothing to do with what she said-it's all a giant conspiracy to hurt Hillary-the victim. UFB!

BTW TPM has a montage that will clarify everything :eyes:

[Occam Bandage]

94. Finally. Took her long enough.

[musiclawyer]

101. The must have got wind of what Olbermann was gonna say

They fucked up. This is damage control

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

108. Ferraro said she needed to take leave the campaign to spend more time with the KKK.

and to continue sliming Obama without attribution to Hillary.

[cooolandrew]

115. It was the right thing to do. I respect she had the decency to do that.