Jesse Jackson Jr. starts the race baiting for Obama--video

[anamandujano]

http://tpmelectioncentral.talkingpointsmemo.com/2008/01/obama_campaign_cochair_questions_hillarys_tears.php

[anonymous171]

1. It's a valid question, sort of.

Although Katrina wasn't necessarily the best example. I guess the underlying point is, why doesn't she get upset over things that are truly upsetting or that don't have DIRECT consequences on her?

[Beacool]

14. Just for the record:

Do you know who invited Obama to fly with her to view the aftermath of Katrina? Yep, the evil woman who misguidedly befriended him and was foolish enough to expect the same in return.

[indimuse]

35. this a pattern he brought

from chicago..so it appears.

[leftofcool]

2. And Jackson knows she didn't cry over Katrina how?

Many of use cried, and not in public

[ProSense]

3. Drug dealer, fairy tale, imaginary hip black friend, gang bang, cult, shuck-and-jive, Hispanics

don't vote for black people, Obama is Somalian, Obama meets with former terrorists, all from Hillary's campaign and surrogates.

Go to the links here and check your time line. Hillary's campaign has been playing the race card since last year.

[indimuse]

38. Really?

Obama has been running a slimy campaign from GO! This is what he's good at...corrupt campaigning..you should read how he won ALL his prior elections. This is a REZKO Bi_product...!

[NightWatcher]

4. my bad whoops

[Occam Bandage]

7. Fail.

[Cant trust em]

12. what do you mean, he's not on the Obama campaign?

Isn't he the national co-chair? I'm going to have to plead confusion.

[NightWatcher]

15. my bad, wrong Jackson, I was thinking SR.

[JoFerret]

46. He of the infamous

"hymie town" remark.

[leftynyc]

56. That's his father (n/t)

[Occam Bandage]

5. Mentioning Katrina is racism? You guys are even quicker on the race-card draw than we are.

[Beacool]

6. That guy is a POS!!!!!!!!

How gladly I would like to encounter him one time to tell him so in person. Jesse, Sr. you raised a race baiting asshole of a son!!!

[NewHampster]

10. He is an ass - here's a present Beacool

[Beacool]

16. Thank you!!!

I know exactly where I would love to place that fist on Jesse Jr. and all the other race baiters in Obama's campaign!!!!

[NewHampster]

21. I know what you mean

they just got rid of Ferraro. who's next that tells the truth about race in the campaign?

[Madam Mossfern]

24. I find that logo offensive

just sayin'

BTW, I'm a woman who was quite the protester in the 60's.
Don't like rip-off mixed metaphor logos.

What's that supposed to mean?
"Hillary power?"

[NewHampster]

41. well, yeah

and the universal symbol for woman. so I'd say it's women for hillary but you can take it anyway you please.

[cali]

11. Too bad your outrage is so selective

You can't decry Jackson who is a real asshole without decrying Ferraro who is a real race baiting piece of shit.

[JoFerret]

45. He sure did

.

[Cant trust em]

8. It's a race card, but low, like the 4 of hearts

Ferraro's was more like the jack of spades. She didn't pull out an ace (which would have been the N-bomb), but her card was pretty high.

[NDambi]

17. Ha Ha...great post

[cali]

9. Yes what Jackson said is deplorable

I can't stand him and I won't make excuses for him- unlike YOU who does countenance racist crap.

[Cant trust em]

23. Thanks for being legit.

There's nothing that I can stand less than some of the candidate apologists on this board. There's no logical way that any candidate can be supported 100% of the time. You have to suspend all rationality to believe that your candidate has never screwed up.

[guruoo]

13. Pretty unabashed about it, too. n/t

[jackson_dem]

18. The race baiting began in November of 2007

Michele Obama: "black America will wake up." We now know what the Obama plan to get nearly unanimous black support was: swiftboat the Clintons--just in time for the SC primary.

Obama surrogate Charles Barron: blacks should vote for Obama because he is black.

Chris Rock: vote for the black guy over the white lady.

However, JJJ kicked off the official beginning of the race card strategy in January.

[Cant trust em]

19. Obama hasn't race baited as much as Clinton has gender baited

She talks about being a leader on women's issues all the time. I don't mind a little pandering to a demographic. I have a problem with playing the victim from jumping the gun on claims of racism/sexism.

[jackson_dem]

27. Both have done it the difference is only Obama swiftboated the other

Hill has had the class not to swiftboat Obama as a sexist. Imagine if she succeeded. Obama went to 85-90% with blacks after the swiftboating. If Hill could get similar numbers among women it would be all over...

The one major candidate who didn't play the race or gender card was Edwards. I supported him but apparently the race card and gender card is very effective. One of the lessons from his demise is a candidate better play those cards if his opponents are.

[Cant trust em]

32. Let's not overuse the word "swiftboat"

We haven't seen anything on either side during this campaign that comes anywhere close to the swiftboat attacks of 2004. There hasn't been any entirely fictious claims made up by either candidate to besmirch the other. The swiftboat vets didn't exist until Karl Rove's brain sparked some fiction. Let's only use it when it's that bad so we can still apply the full force of the word when we see it.

Most the the Clinton race-bait blame game has been played by the media for Obama, not by Obama himself. Pre-South Carolina there were a couple of flaps (the MLK thing, the fairy-tale thing) that Clinton was getting blamed for using race baiting. I wasn't seeing it, but she was getting blamed. Obama was getting blamed for returning with the race-victim card and I had a tough time finding the Obama response. He was largely silent instead of making a big kerfuffle about it.

Now onto Edwards. He has no card to play. It's tough to play the race or gender card when you're a white male. I really like JE and I hope he does something great with the rest of his career.

[anamandujano]

42. "He was largely silent"

He stepped in after mission accomplished in So. Carolina and made some tepid remarks, just like today, after he won Miss. He brought up all the old imagery pre-Miss and then today told everyone that there was no race problem.

Again, mission accomplished.

Compare that to McCain, who shut down anyone making any sort of remarks about Obama. He shut it down instantly. Yeah, big bad McCain. Obama has no decency in comparison.

[Cant trust em]

44. He didn't bring it up

If he really wanted to he could have totally flamed the fires he could have, but there were tepid remarks. It's a tricky line for him to balance.

[anamandujano]

48. He could have put a stop to it once and for all.

He started it, profited from it and he is a dirty campaigner.

[jackson_dem]

50. Exactly. He let it go on until the damage was done and a big win in SC secured

[Cant trust em]

54. Hillary's campaign is the one that seems to keep bringing it up

or at least her surrogates, but these days there is no line between the two. You act like Hillary isn't profitting from claims of sexism. This week she's on the cover of Newsweek and there are a dozen essays about women in it. It's going both ways and I don't really think that either of them should stop when it's an obvious issue in the campaign.

[JoFerret]

53. Oh what a tangled wb we weave

In fairness though - these are thorny paths and complex mazes. No wonder both candidates and their campaigns get caught in the briars.

[jackson_dem]

49. Edwards could have played the white male card. White males are about one-third of voters

He chose not to. I suppose he wanted to win clean or not win at all and he deserves the utmost of respect for that.

[Cant trust em]

55. There is no "white male card"

You get no sympathy votes from proclaiming your role as part of the traditional power structure.

[ProSense]

25. Chris Rock? How idiotic! n/t

[jackson_dem]

52. ProSpin how do you spin Michelle Obama?

Rock in and of itself is irrelevant but it is notable the only comedians making racist jokes, the only bigoted singers, are affiliated with the campaign of the only candidate to make a racist joke on national television about a candidate (he did it to Edwards).

[jgraz]

29. I'm confused. Which one of those quotes make Ferraro's racist spewage acceptable?

Was it the Chris Rock one? We know how you Hillarites love the black comedians. Just ask Sinbad.

[jackson_dem]

51. Who mentioned Ferraro in the OP or post #18?

The OP talks about when race-baiting began. I pointed out Michelle Obama and Charles Barron kicked off months before in November of 2007.

Any "comedians" making racist appeals for Hillary, or for that matter, homophobic "singers"? Or Edwards, who used to support? I thought so...

[Beacool]

34. Yep, but it's only racist when a white person says something stupid.

It's never racist when a black person says it because there are no racist black people in this country. Therefore, they always get a pass. ie: Jesse Jr.

:crazy:

[americanstranger]

20. Wait a sec - is that the 'Why didn't she cry about Katrina' statement?

Wow, only three months old.

Next you be predicting that Hillary's gonna win Ohio.

- as

[ProSense]

22. The comment was about Hillary crying, it wasn't race baiting and Hillary's campaign was already

turning up their despicable attacks.

But here is Terry McAwful implying that it was a strategy

[anigbrowl]

26. Take a hint folks - that 'weasel' graphic is there for a reason!

And of course, so is the ignore function - a little less visual and semantic clutter on my DU - aaah.

[anamandujano]

30. Finally someone takes notice. I was getting a little depressed.

[ProSense]

28. You're trying to distract from Hillary's failure to denounce and reject Ferraro's comments. n/t

[guruoo]

33. Ferraro just stepped down from Clinton campaign

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/03/12/ferraro-steps-down/

[indimuse]

31. THANK YOU!!

I have been looking for that clip,since hs said it! Take THAT Obama_Trolls!!!!!

[Johnny__Motown]

36. January 9th,, wow., great point... very up to date.... NOT.. sorry this doesn't mean anything.

[anamandujano]

43. That was the base that they built upon. Since they got a pass,

they were emboldened and knew they could continue without obstruction, and so they did.

Despicable!

[rodeodance]

37. THANK--I HOPE ALL LISTEN AND LEARN INSTEAD OF POSTING SNARKS. THANK YOU

[kikiek]

39. Thanks, informative and enlightening. And disgusting.

[NashVegas]

40. Love This Irony

The first comment out:

Keith wrote on January 9, 2008 1:48 PM:

Terrible move. The MSM is going to crucify him and Obama over this.

[SKKY]

47. Oh boy, here comes Jackson....

...Sharpton can't be too far behind then. :eyes: