Obama's divisiveness constantly playing the racism card is catching up with him at the polls..

[Tellurian]

http://www.taylormarsh.com/

"For example, just a few weeks ago, Barack Obama won 68% of men in Virginia, 67% in Wisconsin and 62% in Maryland. He won 60% of Virginia women and 55% of Maryland women. He won 62% of independents in Maryland, 64% in Wisconsin and 69% in Virginia. Obama won 59% of Democrats in Maryland, 53% in Wisconsin and 62% in Virginia. And among Republicans, Obama won 72% in both Virginia and Wisconsin.

But now Obama’s support has dropped among all these groups.

In Mississippi, he won only 25% of Republicans and barely half of independents. In Ohio, he won only 48% of men, 41% of women and 42% of Democrats. In Texas, he won only 49% of independents and 46% of Democrats. And in Rhode Island, Obama won just 33% of women and 37% of Democrats.

... .. So the late deciders – those making up their minds in the last days before the election – have been shifting to Hillary Clinton. Among those who made their decision in the last three days, Obama won 55% in Virginia and 53% in Wisconsin, but only 43% in Mississippi, 40% in Ohio, 39% in Texas and 37% in Rhode Island.

If Barack Obama cannot reverse his downward spiral with a big win in Pennsylvania, he cannot possibly be competitive against John McCain in November."

[AX10]

1. kick

Obama is a politician like all others. His pretending to be otherwise shows how little character he has.

[neverforget]

48. And Hillary is not a politician like all others?

:shrug:

[NJSecularist]

2. If Hillary cannot reverse her downward spiral among blacks, she won't be competitive versus McCain

[Kittycat]

5. Agreed.

[NDambi]

7. Yep..they can torpedo him if they want..she won't get the black vote and therefore can not win...

she'd be doomed in a pile of shit

[billbuckhead]

55. Hillary's opponent won't get the elderly and working class white vote

In fact many will vote for McCain in protest.

[trayfoot]

52. Why don't dems just admit it.........

as long as the crappy campaigns continue - from BOTH sides - the dems will lose in November. I don't think either candidate has the "gumption" to play the "what's best for the party card"! And, YES, I definitely include Obama in that comment. Both have egos too large for their pants! Get real folks, we are going to lose unless things change radically!

[LakeSamish706]

3. I guess you folks are not listening to KO's Special Comments tonite. n/t

[NDambi]

9. I AM!!!! LOVIN' IT TOO

[Bicoastal]

4. You don't get it--it's the numbers, not the headlines. If Obama wins the most delegates

he WILL be the nominee, and he WILL face McCain with a united Democratic party behind him. And there will be nothing Hillary, or Taylor Marsh, or YOU can do about it.

[saracat]

10. It won't be a"united" Dem Party" Sorry about that.

[Bicoastal]

22. What other choice do we have? Annoint a divisive candidate who's LOSING

in the hopes that somehow people will rally behind her on a National level?

Maybe the party won't be united either way, but it sure as shit would be MORE divided if we Dems nominate the person with LESS votes, less states, and LESS delegates!

[earthlover]

45. The only way Hillary can win is by the SDs over ruling the pledged delegates

Talk about a divided party! How on earth can she keep the party together after THAT? There may not be rioting in the streets, but neither will there be lines in the voting booths in November.

Remember the record Democratic turnouts this season? They will be HISTORY if Hillary wins in this way (which is just about her only way).
You won't see record turnouts of the youth, independents (many will go mcCain), blacks....many will stay home or maybe even vote mcCain.

As to unity....recent polls indicate that the overwhelming majority of Obama supporters would support Hillary if she were the nominee. However a much larger number of Hillary supporters would NOT support Obama.

Part of Hillary's problem is with her supporters. Many are not really Democrats, but arrogant, pissy, Haters of Obama. They won't have loyalty to the Democratic nominee. They are into their cult leader Hillary, and they will follow her off a cliff. I think people out there can sense this. At any rate, the Obama camp is going to be on board with our nominee no matter what. The Hillary camp needs to find out that the election is not just about their cult leader. It is about a Democratic victory in November, and not just for the president, for all the congressional races on down too.

[DemGa]

12. You think all this demonizing of Hillary Clinton will go unnoticed?

Accusing her of every foul thing - a culture of "hate the Clintons"?

The base will be seriously fractured. Take a good look - this cannot end well.

[emilyg]

42. There will never be a united party behind him.

[JoFerret]

59. Not with the incendiary followers he has

If they stopped frothing he would have an excellent chance.

[NeedleCast]

6. Scoreboard!

14-3 since Super Tuesday

[islandmkl]

8. thank god all the states are identical in makeup...

economically, racially, sexually, etc....

sure makes your math work easy, doesn't it...

well, for you to make your point, anyway...

don't venture into statistical analysis as a hobby...i do believe that you won't find it interesting...



:nuke:

[jackson_dem]

16. They aren't. There are no more Mississippis left and that is bad news for Obama

He has milked the race card for all it is worth: wins in South Carolina, Louisiana, Alabama, Georgia, Mississippi, and Maryland. Now the bill for playing the race card may be coming due.

[karmicglee]

26. I disagree. Indiana is yet to vote

And Obama should be the favorite there by a very large margin.

[jackson_dem]

28. Indiana is something like 89-91% white

There are no states he can win solely via the swiftboating of the Clintons on race anymore.

[karmicglee]

32. In certain states, Whites have leaned towards Obama

I think we should not take it for granted that whites will vote for Clinton as a monolithic group. States are different from each other many times.

[jackson_dem]

37. Yes. He may still win but he can't win it on racial lines like he won MS

The disturbing thing for Obama is his poor recent performances among whites, with the exception of the caucus in Wyoming. Are they anomalies or are a trend? We will soon see. If it is a trend he is in big trouble because getting 21%(AL), 29% (PA), or the low 30's (Ohio) of the white vote isn't going to cut it in the remaining states.

[karmicglee]

46. That\'s a fair point

One other thing is differences between primary and caucus. Is Indiana a caucus or primary? I can\'t recall.

[jackson_dem]

47. I think it is a primary

Yes, Obama does far better in caucuses.

Primaries

Texas: H 51, O 47
Washington: O 50, H 47

Caucuses

Texas: O 56, H 44
Washington: O 68, H 31

Something seems odd...

[karmicglee]

49. But don\'t forget Mississippi was a primary

Although on the other side, as you pointed out, it is a state with a large African-American population. We\'ll see.

[leeman67]

11. Project much?

[muntrv]

13. Yep, winning Wyoming and Mississippi is a downward spiral that Obama

must reverse. He also must reverse that downward spiral of his delegate lead over HRC.:sarcasm:

[jefferson_dem]

14. Taylor Marsh = Hillary's Hannity.

Please. Nobody takes her spew seriously.

[Dinger]

15. K & R (nt)

[moobu2]

17. Watch, you wont see Obama use the race issue as a wedge

so much now that it wont matter in the remaining states.

[jackson_dem]

18. Obama was at 29% with whites in PA and that is before he fell another 3 points overall

He is probably at about 26% now. He is also struggling among women in PA. He was at 27% before his latest fall. He is likely below the quarter mark now. There is a lot of focus on race but he has been struggling mightily among women in PA. Why is this all significant? Women account for almost three out of five primary voters and whites something like four out of five in PA.

[SoonerPride]

19. Well, then I guess he can't win over the Alabama portion of Penn then

He'll have to stick to the cities

[jackson_dem]

30. And the agent of change/real reformer mayor of Philadelphia is supporting Hillary

Philadelphia is about equally split numerically between whites and blacks, although this will not be the case for a Democratic primary. I still think Obama will win the city but if Nutter can help make a dent in Obama's black support he is done, especially giving how poor he is performing with whites in PA. Even with an 89-7 lead with blacks he is losing by double digits because he is in the 20's with whites.

[SoonerPride]

56. Well, then they probably ate up Ferraro's vile remarks

Huh.

I support someone for their issues, not their skin color.

But, hey, that's just me.

[democrattotheend]

20. Virginia is not Mississippi

Mississippi is the Deep South. Virginia is in the process of turning purple. Obama's margins among whites yesterday were similar to his margins in Alabama a month ago, before the Virginia primary.

[earthside]

21. Idiotic Subject Title

Who brought up race in this latest instance?

It was Gerry Ferraro.

Who made the comparison to Jesse Jackson in South Carolina?

Bubba.

Who blatantly calls for women to support her because she is a woman?

Shrillary.

No matter what these poll numbers might be jiggered to say, Obama has won 29 contests and leads the delegate count and the popular vote count -- he's winning. And this in spite of the Clinton(s) campaign overt and covert race baiting.

[Hatalles]

24. Well said. nt

[jackson_dem]

31. History made the comparison between Jackson and Obama in SC

Only two candidates have won SC on lopsided racial voting (getting virtually unanimous support among their color but losing badly among the other big group). Everyone else won both racial groups, like Edwards 04' and Clinton in 92'. One is Jesse Jackson. The other is...

[EFerrari]

33. Precisely. n/t

[skooooo]

23. Yes, Mississippi is quite the bellweather state.

:eyes:

[jmg257]

25. Yeah - those double-digit victories sure get old fast.

[styersc]

27. The Obama of March 2008 cannot win against any GOP....

candidate the way Obama of June 2007 could have. Until recently Obama was not the African-American candidate, he was a candidate who is African-American. Now any question is racism, any objection is racism, any disagreement is racism. This will secure the Democratic candidacy for sure but Independent Americans value dissent and 1st Amendment rights too much to vote for a candidate who is going to expect to be insulated from questions by the American people by screaming racism for 8 years.

[jackson_dem]

34. This may be the case. How is he in the 20's among whites in PA?

This from a guy who not too long ago won Iowa and almost won New Hampshire.

[Nitrogenica]

29. Rush's efforts to rally Republicans for Hillary have paid off well.

[Usrename]

35. picking up another 100,000 votes in his lead is a downward spiral?

:rofl: :rofl:

[EmperorHasNoClothes]

36. Because every demographic group votes exactly the same in every state!

Great analysis, there. :eyes:

[jackson_dem]

38. The point is the trend and frankly Obamites themselves were saying similar things after Wisconsin...

You know, when the trend was the opposite: steadily rising white support for Obama. There was also jubilation over him winning the Latino vote for once after Virginia.

There aren't enough states to render a judgment on this but the Obama camp must be disturbing by recent performances among a vital group, along with his decline among women. PA is the next state. He was at 29% among whites and 27% among women before he dropped another 3 points overall. The latest poll doesn't give crosstabs but we can extrapolate that he is probably hovering around the 25% mark now among these two large groups.

[anonymous171]

39. lol Taylor Marsh.

Anyway, Clinton strategy is one of division. To deny this would be stupid. It's triangulation, we see it in the labels (Dunkin Donut vs Latte Liberal) and talking points (black/brown divide.) It may be "good politics" but it's not right politics and it DEFINITELY isn't new.

[UALRBSofL]

40. Your absolutely right about that

Yesterday Obama was up 2 on Clinton but today she is up either 4 or 5, depending if you watched CNN or MSNBC. Lets just hope she can sustain and increase her lead.

[emilyg]

41. k/r

[earthlover]

43. If Barack Obama cannot reverse his downward spiral with a big win in Pennsylvania.....

he cannot possibly be competitive against John McCain in November."

Wow! The goal posts are moved yet again! Now Obama has to win decisively in PA or he can't beat McCain.

I don't believe Taylor Marsh's name is real. I have no evidence for my assertion, it just sounds so made up, phoney.

She has to be the lamest commentator on either side of the political spectrum. She makes even the conservative dingbats look good by comparison.

Reading her works is like reading a children's story.

[mod mom]

44. PROJECTION:

In psychology, psychological projection (or projection bias) is a defense mechanism in which one attributes one’s own unacceptable or unwanted thoughts or/and emotions to others. Projection reduces anxiety by allowing the expression of the unwanted subconscious impulses/desires without letting the ego recognize them.

[Tellurian]

53. Yes, we get a morning dose of Obama supporters spewing venom as early as 5:30 am here..

I've had to use the ignore button for one poster. My corn flakes were curdling the milk in the bowl as the poster was using her projection of daily filth as part of her morning therapy. Eeeyow!

[boston bean]

57. I was up at 4:30 am this morning and the place was jumpin with O

supporters.

They don't sleep.

[Tellurian]

58. The graveyard shift..is the worst!

they tail off around nap time 11am.

[TexasLady]

50. I actually believe the 'ridiculous' banter

helps his campaign immensely. It does come in waves. Hopefully he'll be riding at the top of a big one April 22nd.

[Generic Brad]

51. I believe some Clinton supporters are the ones continually playing the race card

And it is becoming increasingly obvious that when they do so, they are not dealing with a full deck.

[Tellurian]

54. Not at all.. If you can prove it, please do so!