Craig Crawford: Obama's been trying to make White People Feel Guilty

[MadBadger]

Crawford just said that on Morning Joe

White Obama supporters, do you agree?

[npincus]

1. he DIDN'T say that... he said that white people were "appreicative

thst he didn't make them feel guilty" at the start of the campaign. THAT'S what he said. You can twist and spin it like a pretzel, but THAT'S what he said.

[MadBadger]

7. He said that first, THEN he said this little gem.

Saying that before he wasnt doing that, but since NH, He has been doing that.

[npincus]

8. I am watching and he did NOT say that.

[MadBadger]

9. I am watching too, I heard exactly what he said.

You must have looked the other way when he finished his statement to which Mika was saying "no, no, no"

[npincus]

11. You obviously have an agenda.

[MadBadger]

12. Ok? Go back up your tivo. I would mine, but I dont have one.

I dont lie in my posts. I dont intentionally mislead people. I dont come to DU with the intention to divide. You're barking up the wrong tree

[rodeodance]

46. But you are so caught up in the BO love that it is possible you mislead. and your have no evidence.

[MadBadger]

50. Okay,.,I cannot stand you. I'm putting you on ignore AGAIN. I beg you to put me on ignore too.

Okay? I dont like you. You pull this shit all the time, now lets forget each of us have ever existed.

[snooper2]

59. That's one of the two people I have on Ignore..

Handle must start with a ( M ) and sound like dem or the other one who likes to dance :)


:rofl:

[grantcart]

67. dance - I just took everybody off ignore

[Breeze54]

54. This is the 2nd OP today by this OP that they misquoted

It's beginning to look like a deliberate pattern of behavior to me.

[MadBadger]

58. Excuse me?

[Submariner]

2. Not for a second - No guilt complex here

Hillary is running a racist campaign because she sees the gutter politics as her only hope to knock him down. Hillary's scorched earth policy is quite apparent.

[npincus]

6. the OP has an agenda...

I'm watching "Morning Joe"... Crawford (who has been consistenetly anti-Obama in his critques) opining that the Obama campaign stirred up the Ferraro fiasco so they could react to it, and he thinks as a political strategy it will probably alienate voters that he is "already losing".

I DON'T AGREE w/him, or a lot of what has been said this morning (pundits seem to be turning this one on Obama) but THAT'S what he said, and not the misleading OP title.

[MadBadger]

10. My OP was not misleading. You didnt listen to the second part of his statement.

[rodeodance]

32. so what was the 2nd part of his statement?

[MadBadger]

34. this was the second part.

[rodeodance]

38. So there is no Second part and your OP is very misleading. Only your Jesus avater is showing

[MadBadger]

40. This is why you dont come into a conversation in the middle. READ

[rodeodance]

43. you show only your big Jesus avatar---no tx.

[rodeodance]

39. I asked for the 2nd part--and OP showed me his big Jesus avator. He has no 2nd part.

[Dammit Ann]

3. please, it is a new day.

i love obama. PLEASE STOP.

[mmonk]

4. People say the darnedest things

I for one have had enough of this idiocy.

[usrbs]

5. I'm a Clinton supporter, but what a piece of crap!

I hate 95% of these so-called pundits.

But if you ask me whether or not he played the race card against Hillary....

[rodeodance]

44. I am reading the commens on this thread--i am not sure OP is correct -just saying

[JoFerret]

13. Most Americans are very confused about race and racism

And for very good reason. Aware a little of a long painful history, aware a little of the struggles for civil rights, aware of where we are now with seemingly intractable problems in some areas . Confused because as "good" people they would like things to be better. But then along comes BO - remember Biden's unfortunate description - and he is not quite like others. And wow - for white people they can acquire instance cool and inoculation against racism by standing with BO who is black but not black in that scary way.

And etc. And of course - BO is a highly accomplished man with great marketing and some appealing , if rather vague, ideas and a gift for turning a phrase.

[UALRBSofL]

41. If people aren't aware of racism as you say then why can't they wake up to discrimination?

Specifically the issues with GLBT. Because we are treated like second class citizens. Explain why that is? Are people just ignorant to GLBT's or are they discriminatory. I'd pick discriminatory.

[SoCalDem]

14. He's wrong-o.. It's the republican passive aggressive thing again

say something terrible, if the person takes the high road and ignores it, keep saying horrible things .. call them weak and timid..

when they finally do respond, scream and cry and make yourself out to be the victim..

anyone who has ever had kids close in age, knows the drill

It's not a new ploy.. note the date on this editorial cartoon

[npincus]

16. You've got that right. Re: Ferraro, it was the MSM that blew that up

into the huge story that it became, by playing it every 5 minutes (after the Spitser update). Obama's people issued a statement, and Obama repsonded to it when asked.... how is THAT an orchestration of the Obama campaign? That someone of Ferraro's statrue would make multiple statements saying the Obama got where he is because he is black, was DESTINED to become a big story... Ferraro is something of a femnist icon.

Obama's campaign had to react or they would have been called out as "weak"... I disagree entirely with Craig Crawford; Obama campaign did not create this and had to react one way or another. Crawford has been very down on Obama, but I still like him anyway.

[susankh4]

15. No. I do not.

But I do feel that his speech writers are interjecting racially loaded words into his speeches. To intentially elicit reactions. And, just as African Americans are sensitive to such "code" or "trigger" words about their.... whites are also.

[Skidmore]

17. Craig Crawford was one of Imus' staunchest supporters after his blatant

racist and sexist remarks. When it comes to Mr. Crawford, I always consider the source now. I really used to like him until his affiliation with Imus. I caught him on a few of those broadcasts and he appeared to be very much in "good ole boy" mode in his appearances.

[NDambi]

42. Yep!

[EffieBlack]

18. Self-Deleted

[Champion Jack]

19. Craig Crawford? what's next you'll post a quote from David Duke?

[stillcool]

61. Craig Crawford = David Duke?

I don't watch television, so I didn't know that David Duke was now a news commentator. What show is he on?

[democrattotheend]

20. Not at all. In fact, Clinton sometimes does (but not intentionally)

I have never, ever felt that I should support Obama out of guilt. There may be some whites who have been moved by guilt, but I don't think the Obama campaign has done anything to induce guilt, as far as I can see.

If anything, it's the opposite. As a woman, I sometimes feel twinges of guilt for not supporting the first woman with a credible chance of becoming president. Lately, I have been kind of turned off by Clinton's behavior, but every now and then, she does something that tugs at my heartstrings a little and makes me feel guilty, like when she said "I am honored to be here with Barack Obama".

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

21. Huh?

[mod mom]

22. hnmnf...what's up with your artwork-what message are you trying to get across?

BTW I am appalled at Crawford's comments but NOT surprised. He has made it obvious he is in Clinton's camp in the past.

[MadBadger]

30. Everybody tells us Obama people that we think Obama is our messiah...I'm embracing that.

[totodeinhere]

23. Crawford has been more pro Clinton than most other commentators on MSNBC.

[high density]

25. Pat Buchanan and Joe seem to love Hillary as well

Or at the very least they love her campaign's tactics.

[totodeinhere]

26. That POS Buchanan's opinion doesn't deserve anyone's attention however,

and I agree that Joe seems to defend Hillary more than he used to. But I think that's because he just wants the contest to continue for the sake of his ratings, which aren't very good BTW.

[shadowknows69]

24. No

[Medusa]

27. Crawford is a Clinton Whore

'nuff said.

[rodeodance]

35. Keith O. is the Obama WHORE.

enough said

[SeaLyons]

48. ...

:thumbsup:

[rodeodance]

51. I really did not want to say that. but.......seems appropo!!

[SeaLyons]

62. What I find ironic

is all the "democrats" on this board giving kudo's to a media pundit for arrogantly kicking one of our beloved candidates in the face. I find that incredible. So much for loyalty to the party.

[noel711]

28. I don't feel guilty..

[scheming daemons]

36. I do.... I feel guilty that we haven't done more to stop Dubya....

...

[Eurobabe]

29. Craig Crawford needs a voice transplant. STFU.

[NDambi]

45. lmao

[rodeodance]

31. "White Obama supporters, do you agree?"--- How divisive are YOU!!

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[Bullet1987]

37. Crawford is probably one of Clinton's biggest defenders on MSNBC

[canuk1]

47. its obama's fault?

According to Crawford Obama forced Ferraro to say what she said so he could make an issue about it. Say what? If he doesn't respond to Ferraro, Crawford would be saying Obama is showing weakness when he doesn't respond to these attacks. Crawford is a Clinton supporter. Also, he has said some questionable things in the past. Not to long ago he made a joke on the Imus show, about being one of the few white people living in DC with a gun. Even Imus was very uncomfortable with what he said, but nothing came from it.

[Bullet1987]

49. That's Clinton supporters new talking point

That it's Obama fault Ferroro said what she said. It's utter bullshit and no one except them is buying it.

[Lucky 13]

52. No. Geraldine takes care of that.

I feel guilty when crazy racist crackers like Geraldine stand up and publicly diminish all that a great man (not a great BLACK man... a great man. Period.) has accomplished. I feel guilty that some people can actually DEFEND what she said and still call themselves "progressive". I feel guilty that my party and a white democratic female candidate didn't stand up IMMEDIATELY and kick this woman to the curb. And I feel sick at the idea that anyone might hear her remarks and the way Hillary supporters have vehemently defended them, and think that that is an accurate representation of white Democratic women. Because it most certainly does not represent me.

And I think the greatest evidence of their racism IS the fact that they see nothing wrong with it. If you can't step outside yourself and your shit-spinning candidate for 2 seconds to see how statements like that are at LEAST hurtful and divisive, you live in a dimension just short of reality.

So yes. I feel guilty. And I am very VERY sorry. I'm sorry we were all assaulted by Gerry's lunatic bullshit, but I am especially sorry that Barack Obama and Black America in general were degraded and their accomplishments diminished. She is not a representative of whites, or women, or democrats, or human beings.

[rodeodance]

55. and Powers did the same. Both candidates have addressed the issue. I think

both candidates want it dropped. don't you?

[Lucky 13]

66. Powers did the same? What? I don't understand what you're saying...

Powers used the word "Monster" off the record to a newspaper reporter in Scotland. While rude, it is not racist or sexist. Obama doesn't want that negativity coming from his campaign so she was gone within HOURS and an apology was issued immediately.

Geraldine makes racially charged statements and defends them over and over on national television and radio for DAYS. Your candidate says she is sorry "if anyone is offended" and that they are "regrettable". And it takes DAYS for Geraldine to finally leave the campaign on her own accord. Keith hit the nail on the head last night. Hillary had the opportunity to come right out and denounce the statements immediately. Instead she waited and missed a crucial opportunity to prove to skeptical people around the country that her campaign will not tolerate negativity or racial overtones. She decided to take a pass on that. Because every move she makes is calculated to be strategically correct... even if morally incorrect.

Hillary keeps saying she wants to "highlight the differences" between her and Obama. The Powers-Ferraro comments and the way they were handled is a GREAT difference to highlight.

And I will drop it when dumbasses stop defending it.

[Alter Ego]

53. No.

If anything, he's made me feel guilty for giving up on the political process as "dirty by nature". Obama's candidacy has made me hope for transparency and accountability in government again--that the President will serve us, not the other way around.

[cooolandrew]

56. Not the campaign I've seen he's just said Geraldine's comments were inapporpriate and they were.

Barack's campaign has been inclusive to everyone and not tore people down with negativity. He has a bright vision for America and the world needs that. Folks would only feel guilty on anything if they had done something wrong...

[SeaLyons]

57. Yes, I agree with that

bringing up MLK was a shout out in more than ways than one.

[yardwork]

60. No, this white woman does not agree. And I'm appalled at this nonsense.

It looks to me like all the old racist bogeymen are being pulled out of the dark corners of this country.

[rodeodance]

65. If you look at the posts here--not sure Craig said that--as OP refuses to supply and direct evidence

[NoodleyAppendage]

63. Craig Crawford is so far up Clinton's ass that his head is poking out of her mouth.

Crawford has been shilling for Clinton from day one. He's a major koolaid drinker, who's now been tasked as a "member of the media" to divert attention away from Clinton's RACIST tactics.

Nice try, Craig. Sorry, but many of us actually pay attention.

J

[anonymous171]

64. I voted Obama because he inspires me with his words and actions.

His race is not really important to me. I supported Dean back in 04, but I switched because I believed Kerry was more "electable" even though my ideals to me to stick with Dean. Now I know that I need to stand by people who share my ideals. GO OBAMA!