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Redstone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 06:20 PM
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So, since GD-P is having the "Battle of the Religious Advisers" tonight...
Can someone please explain to me what the hell a "Religious Advisor" actually is?

Seems to me that if you subscribe to a specific religion (I don't); you'd be pretty familiar with what that religion entails, without requiring the services of some specific person to constantly "advise" you about it.

What am I missing here?

Redstone
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ulysses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 06:22 PM
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1. it's not enough to profess a religion.
One must now have a shaman in order to run for national office.

Evidently.
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Redstone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 06:24 PM
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5. Apparently so. I think you've answered my question, and I thank you for doing so.
Redstone
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ulysses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 06:32 PM
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9. I think it's part of the movement toward suburban "self-help" churches.
They're appealing to the same folks who are drawn to these things that are part church, part financial seminar and part pseudo-therapy.
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Redstone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 06:35 PM
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11. I think I know the kind of "churches" you're talking about. They're the ones that don't
Edited on Thu Mar-13-08 06:36 PM by Redstone
have an affiliation you'd recognize, such as Catholic, Methodist, Baptist, and so on, aren't they?

Something like "Good News Assembly" or the like, and in a VERY large building, if I remember correctly.

Am I right?

Redstone
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ulysses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 06:45 PM
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14. yeah. they're everywhere down here.
"Church In the Now" is my favorite, out east of Atlanta. "The Oasis" meets in the high school here in Douglasville on the weekends - it's the only one I've seen that isn't in a huge prefab building.

As far as I can tell, they peddle a sort of "Christianity, without the thought".

Being nondenominational makes them perfect for a political campaign, now that I think of it.
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Redstone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 06:49 PM
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18. It ain't just "down there." We have them here in New England as well, and
Edited on Thu Mar-13-08 06:49 PM by Redstone
that for at least 15 years. I know it's a more common thing Down South and Out West, but it's here in the northeast too.

Let's PLEASE not go into the psychology of what drives people to those "churches," shall we? You and I both know what it is, and I wouldn't want to have to drag the name of my older son's mother into a public discussion (she's a classic "mark" for that kind of place).

Good to know you and I are on the same page, though.

Redstone
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ulysses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 06:53 PM
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19. LOL
I wouldn't want to have to drag the name of my older son's mother into a public discussion

Understood. :D

Good to know you and I are on the same page, though.

It is. Great question for an OP. :)
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DesertFlower Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 06:22 PM
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2. i don't know. i don't
practice any religion. i did, at one time have a spiritual teacher.
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BleedingHeartPatriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 06:23 PM
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3. "Advisor"has become a full time campaign job. And, UNPAID.
WTF is with all these folks latching onto high profile jobs and not being paid?

Sorry to hijack thread to a subreference.
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Redstone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 06:26 PM
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6. No apologies needed. But I think I have the answer to your question:
It's considered to be an investment by the people who do the "latching on" without being paid to do so.

They're hoping to turn that unpaid time into well-paying time if their "client" moves into a position of power.

Redstone
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BleedingHeartPatriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 07:06 PM
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22. I missed quid pro quo.
Edited on Thu Mar-13-08 07:09 PM by BleedingHeartPatriot
Embarrassing.
I was thinking not receiving pay made it easier for them to "resign" since they weren't being paid anyway. That frees them up to be divisive.

I missed the obvious. I hate when I do that.:blush:

edit, dropped my "not"
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Redstone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 07:11 PM
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26. It's both your suspected reason and mine, I believe.
Redstone
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Spider Jerusalem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 06:23 PM
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4. I suppose that depends on whether you're an introvert or an extrovert.
Introverts tend to be self-directed and more comfortable finding things out on their own; extroverts tend to be more other-directed and to need other people to tell them things.
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BleedingHeartPatriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 06:30 PM
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7. Ahem, as an extrovert I'd' like to mention that we are energized by being around other
people.

We exhibit the best of the social side of humans. Plus we are as capable of being introspective as anyone. And, I've seen plenty of introverts who were "other directed".

:toast:
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Spider Jerusalem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 06:32 PM
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8. And the worst, too, for that matter...
speaking as an introvert, I have to say that a lot of that 'energy' is quite often used in the service of pointless and even destructive ends. (Mass movements? Rallies? Mobs? Extroverts. Count on it.)
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BleedingHeartPatriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 07:00 PM
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21. Um. OK.
If you think extroversion="the worst", I doubt I'll say anything to change that view.

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Spider Jerusalem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 07:10 PM
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25. You said it yourself...
"We exhibit the best of the social side of humans."

I was responding to that (I don't think that many introverts have, historically, constituted riots, lynch mobs, gangs, and so on).
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ProgressiveEconomist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 06:33 PM
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10. For HRC, it evidently means 15 years of regular sessions with a RW theocrat,
now located at a splendid former convent on the Potomac opposite DC, where he "provides members of Congress with sex-segregated housing and spiritual guidance."

See http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x5064236 .
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Redstone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 06:37 PM
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12. I wasn't asking for partisan attacks.
Redstone
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ProgressiveEconomist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 06:43 PM
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13. And you did not get one. You got a link to little-known FACTS alleged in a
progressive magazine.
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Redstone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 06:45 PM
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15. Oh, bullshit. You can delude yourself, but you can't suck ME into your vortex.
Redstone
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rug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 06:46 PM
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16. .
:applause:
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Redstone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 07:07 PM
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23. Indeed. Thanks.
Redstone
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Liberal Veteran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 06:49 PM
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17. Pretty soon we'll be playing six degrees of separation to bash candidates.
It's gotten so silly.
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Redstone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 06:57 PM
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20. That does indeed seem to be the trend, doesn't it?
Especially here at GD-P.

Redstone
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 07:08 PM
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24. Believing has been outsourced
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Redstone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 07:13 PM
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27. Now, there's a helluva good answer. And I suspect a correct one.
Redstone
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