"Jeremiah Wright is like an uncle for me" - Barack Obama on H&C

[suston96]

I never had uncles like that. Have any of you?

[polichick]

1. Like what - a little over the top???

[ThatBozGuy]

34. A politician would have......

Immediately said "hey his guy is a nut" run away and throw him under a bus and hide and dodge everything.

A man of principles says clearly and succinctly with single word yes or no s "this man is like family to me and I disagree with him"

Thats leadership with clarity and truth not nuance, finesse and loophole definitions of what the word is is or what the concept of fair is.

[Strelnikov_]

59. Hear Hear! n/t

[MattNC]

2. yes

but on the conservative side

[Umbram]

Oh, jesus yes. (nt)

[XemaSab]

3. All my uncles are white.

:shrug:

[Adelante]

4. I had a truly horrible uncle

A monster, in fact.

[Nitrogenica]

5. HE SAID HE SAID HE SAID!!!!

Then I said "you earned an ignore from me."

[virtualobserver]

6. actually I have......

and I would have to repudiate their statements.

But I still love them.

[Evergreen Emerald]

7. he has a choice whether or not to have this man be his mentor.

This is not a "crazy uncle" this is who he has chosen to emulate.

[KittyWampus]

20. what about Hillary's membership in "The Fellowship" and it's leader Doug Coe?

[Evergreen Emerald]

28. "look over there!" "Don't look at Obama."

Seriously, why are you ignoring everything Obama?

[KittyWampus]

51. Obama's Church, fellow Congregants and Mission are ALL mainstream. Hillary's Prayer Cell

and Doug Coe are freaking rightwing THEOCRATS.

The members and the mission as well as the leader ALL are extreme.

That you dare mention Wright without having issue with Hillary being in this fucked up theocratic movement says volumes.

[mrreowwr_kittty]

43. Hillary has a choice over her relationship with Mark Penn

She chooses to be advised by a man who defends Blackwater.

[Evergreen Emerald]

44. Wow. More divert and ignore. Don't you want to get to the truth?

He and Michelle have been going to this pastor for 20 years. She has mimicked some of his statments. And you want to ignore it. Is it ok with you?

[mrreowwr_kittty]

52. Yes it is.

I don't have to admire every single thing about a person to admire certain aspects of him/her. Did Barack or Michelle mimic any of his statements that you found offensive?

Has Hillary Clinton ever done or said anything that you've disagreed with, or is she utterly without flaws to you?

[Evergreen Emerald]

56. well, Clinton is ATTACKED for every little thing that comes out of

anyone's mouth that is within 100 yards of her. The double standard is amazing

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

8. If you don't know any crazy relatives, suston...

it's because you are the crazy relative.

[babylonsister]

16. Just about perfect! nt

[Adelante]

21. Oh

:rofl:

[NanceGreggs]

23. ...

:rofl:

[TahitiNut]

26. Word!

:thumbsup: Rarely have truer words been posted on DU.

I VERY rarely say this but ... DUzy!

[ZinZen]

29. Oh yes

;)

[XemaSab]

31. *snap*

:o

[angie_love]

35. Zing!

[stop the bleeding]

61. wow that hits home for everyone

bravo :toast:

[high density]

9. I have some crazy uncles

Yep

[babylonsister]

10. Yes. I'm glad he loves the man enough to defend him. If my uncle

hadn't died from pancreatic cancer, I'd defend him against anyone. He was a kook, but he was my kook.

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

11. Doesn't everybody have an eccentric relative or two?

[Maat]

12. Yes, I have at least two of them ...

and I love them for their outspokenness.

And, you could have put that quote into context; Barack stated that he would have left that particular church IF objectionable statements had been made on an ONGOING basis. He also stated that Rev. Wright is retiring and nonactive; therefore, this is no longer an issue.

[BeyondGeography]

13. No, but I've had some aunts who are praying their DVD's never show up on Fox

[eeyore]

14. Absolutely!

I'm not sure I'd have an uncle I wouldn't have to disavow on a certain level.

[navarth]

15. Hell yes. n/t

[Drunken Irishman]

17. My uncle is in prison doing drug charges.

Who was always saying aliens were coming to get him.

But I still loved him. :D

[backscatter712]

18. I've got a brother-in-law like that.

Pretty nice guy, hard working, and even a Democrat, but sometimes he shoots off his mouth and says some vile racist shit.

[angie_love]

19. yup I have.

[goclark]

22. Meet my uncle Anthony

Love him a lot but he can put his foot all the way in his month.

Sometimes we'll sit at dinner and good old Uncle Tony will say something way off base.

Doesn't mean we don't love him ~ he's just like that sometimes.

[burythehatchet]

24. I wish I had. Not one of my uncles had near the sense that Wright does n/t

[angie_love]

25. I actually have more than 1 crazy uncle.

[SoxFan]

27. Aunts, too

I have an aunt who is very, very conservative, especially on matters of race and religion. But you know what? I love her dearly.

Some of you are just plain strange. You think that it is acceptable to throw a long-time friend under the bus in the name of political expediency. Our friends and family are, in the end, all we've got, and we accept them and love them, warts and all.

[Tom Rinaldo]

30. The problem with the Uncle analogy

is that Uncles are luck of the draw and we make our peace with who we get for better and/or for worse. Generally, in a large city especially, people choose their own pastors because they are people who they can admire.

[johnnydrama]

54. it's not like

when he was picking churches out of the yellow pages, it said "crazy loony pastor" next to that church.

[Tom Rinaldo]

55. How many years was he there though?

I believe it was over ten years. Pastor Wright married Barack and Michelle, and the Obama's have donated thousands of dollors to that church. For better or worse, it's more than a casual or fleeting association.

[pdxmom]

57. Donations to a church and who the pastor is are two unrelated things.

My parents have been trying to get their minister removed for the past two years, but continue to contribute to the good works going on in the church. And I realize that your next statement will be that Obama never tried to get him removed. That isn't the point. The point is that the tithing to the church should be an irrelevant fact, IMO.

[DearAbby]

32. Yeah.

[ebdarcy]

33. Yeah, I've got two of them, plus an aunt.

And that's just from my mother's side.

[XemaSab]

36. Seriously, I have three uncles

and they're all kinda nuts. Ditto for my grandpa... and most of my aunts... and my grandma...

My Uncle Mike and my Grandpa used to tag team the more sensitive members of the family... we'd be sitting there at the dining room table and they'd be having a (staged) discussion growing in intensity until one of them would spout off something like "Hitler was right about the Jews," and hilarity would ensue. :P

[Forkboy]

37. I love the smell of burning premises in the morning.

[JoFerret]

38. I would have to disown them if I did. Or keep a safe distance.

But then I am not Obama. He has/ had different family needs.

His mother sounds really cool though.

[Abacus]

39. lol, worse

but the opposite direction. Something like Bush, but more intelligent and less wise (if that is possible).

He's recently been divorced for the 6th time, turned fundie* during the last marriage and started drinking again after. Last year he won some bids to remodel a couple kitchens, but used the upfront money to pay off creditors and is now getting sued. There was a night in jail in there somewhere. I could go on and on; this is just the last two years and he's 50 something.

*Once accused my 80 year old grandmother (his mom) of supporting gays because she was wearing a multi-colored cloth belt.

[silverweb]

40. Yep.

Uncles and other relatives.

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[MzShellG]

42. What about a racist/freeperish uncle (figure)?

No matter how they are they're still (like) family. Barack, like some others, can see the good in most people. Certainly all du'ers can relate to that. But ofcourse some, with a political agenda, would rather feign outrage.

[theboss]

45. I have two bookies for uncles. I had an uncle do time. I had an uncle who was an alcoholic.

I had an uncle who fronted a night club for some criminals (and I think eventually burned it down for them). I had an uncle go AWOL. I've had some colorful uncles.

I loved all these uncles. Seriously, I think any child would learn a lot about life if they spent one weekend a month in a bookie joint.

My great-grandmother killed her first husband. Her brother was a criminal hiding in the hills outside Naples at the time. (At least that's the family legend).

My great-grandfather may have killed his traveling partner in order to use his papers to emigrate.

[rug]

46. I had two relatives like that but they were both committed a long time ago.

I did visit them.

[Quixote1818]

47. Absolutely. That was a great way for Obama to describe him. He straddled the line to perfection

nt

[Kber]

48. Shit, my uncle tops his "uncle" any day of the week.

Let's just say he plead down to involuntary man slaughter and only served 4 years in FL state pen,

Now, I hadn't actually seen the man since I was about 7 years old, but when it came time for my wedding, my (dying) grandmother guilted me into inviting him and reassured me that he wouldn't come anyway because he couldn't afford to travel up from SC to PA, but would be touched by the invitation.

So I did, and then found out that my grandmother PAID FOR HIS PLANE TICKET AND HOTEL.

So there.

[theboss]

49. You know what, you probably made her very happy

I'm planning a wedding right now and my fiance and I are having a lot of discussions about my family.

The criminal side is currently beating the overly religious side 2:1 because - well - they are a hell of a lot of fun and bring better gifts.

[Connie_Corleone]

50. I have an aunt like that.

[suston96]

53. Greta discussing Obama's "uncle" comment on Fox.....

...guest suggesting relationship with Wright more than just pastor.

[pdxmom]

58. My dad is one of twelve kids, half of which were men. My father is

like that, and he's more judicious than my uncles were.

[VotesForWomen]

60. you don't choose your uncles; you choose your pastor. nt

[ThatBozGuy]

62. You don't chose your pastor you choose your congregation.