Wright story might already be out of news cycle

[gabeana]

seems the lead in politics is that "Obama has expanded delegate lead"

[candice]

1. The Republicans have it in waiting...just in case anyone missed it....

[Sarah Ibarruri]

4. But it's already redundant. nt

[JoFerret]

45. Can you say October surprise?

.

[anigbrowl]

80. Bow down and fear the mighty Republicans!!!

We must elect Clinton because they will never dare to say something naughty or untruthful about her! When Hillary clinton runs against Republicans everything magically changes and they abstain from all of their dastardly tactics!

[JoFerret]

100. Well - we don't send obama that's for sure. not now

Not if we want to win. Not if we want the best possible candidate and best possible president
Edwards would have been good but too late for that.

[Life Long Dem]

99. SURPRISE!!!!

Did I surprise you? It's not a surprise if it's out. And who disagrees that it is not out? The swiftboat issue with Kerry came out in August, which was late enough to hurt him.

[JuneFiasco]

103. Beware

Don't you think Rove already has it planned?

[jefferson_dem]

9. Yup. Repugs and certain DUers will try to keep this bogus story afloat.

Shame. I expected as much from the former /// but the latter?

[Alexander]

12. The latter is the same thing as the former.

Some of these idiots will stay home or vote McCain, all because that "uppity" Obama dared interfere with Queen Hillary's coronation.

[Hawkeye-X]

97. I agree - they keep pulling Rezko to try to hurt Obama, but they don't realize it's

already hurting Clinton more than Obama - Trib already found Obama's explanation plausible and have determined no involvement at all. Also, as far as Clinton and Rezko goes, I just inform them to google "Individual H" - which has far more damaging information against Clinton than Obama.

Hawkeye-X

[JoFerret]

102. Playing ostrich is not wise

It is full of hope though. False hope.

I wonder sometimes whether some Obama folk really want a democrat in the WH or just want Obama.

[JuneFiasco]

104. Horsesh**

All of this is horsesh**.

What it is really about is who will be the best president. Not who knew some pastor or who knew some Chinese financier!

[Generic Brad]

2. Who pays attention to news on a Saturday night?

Other than us?

[eileen_d]

6. I was just going to say

"losers like me" :crazy:

[Cha]

35. hilary. hilary brought up the snl

skit at the Texas debate after she asked the moderators why she always had to get the first question..then she asked Obama if he wanted a "pillow to be more comfortable". hilary was milking it for all it was worth.

[Quixote1818]

3. Unless they can nail him directly they will have to let it pass because

when their is nothing new to report, people get board of the story. If they can dig up something new then it will come back to life, otherwise Obama is through the worst of this.

[jody]

5. The Wright story may be out of news cycle but it will survive for decades in the email domain. n/t

[Joe the Revelator]

7. You're pinning your hopes on email?

good luck.

[billbuckhead]

14. The video is why this is big deal, it's went viral and it won't be stopped.

<http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8M-kD0QdRJk>

[jody]

17. "pinning your hopes" on email? That's a false characterization of me because I'm a Yellow Dog

Democrat who wants our party to win.

[JuneFiasco]

105. Well...

Never underestimate the ability to seek things out.

[OhioBlue]

25. so will the fact that sally sue will get a new kidney

if you will just forward this to everyone in your contact list.

[jody]

32. What's wrong with getting a new kidney? My wife died waiting for new kidney. What's your point? n/t

[OhioBlue]

33. that there is a ton of crap chain e-mail about everything.

[jody]

47. You made a disparaging comment about people waiting for a kidney transplant. What point are you

trying to make about my late wife and hundreds of thousands of identical patients waiting for a kidney transplant.

[OhioBlue]

53. bull shit. I was pointing out that crap chain e-mails

say anything.

[Johnny__Motown]

8. Sunday talk shows will need to discuss it, that should be about the end of it.

This is why everyone dumps information on Friday night.

[JuneFiasco]

106. Classic ...

... strategy to hide bad news.

[sueragingroz]

10. really?

http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2008/03/just-what-did-o.html


http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/story?id=4458258&page=1


http://www.kansascity.com/273/story/533006.html


http://www.cbsnews.com/blogs/2008/03/15/politics/fromtheroad/entry3941390.shtml

http://cbs2chicago.com/local/barack.obama.jeremiah.2.678094.html

[gabeana]

15. Most of these are either blogs or opinion

not straight news, go to the main ABC news site what the lead? It is Obama expands lead

[sueragingroz]

23. EXACTLY!

Now that the story has broken, it will make its rounds in the opinion pages and on the talk shows and talk radio...

This is going to go on and on and on.

video doesn't go away. it's ready fodder for right wing campaign commercials.

[gabeana]

29. Does the Avg american follow this stuff?

[sueragingroz]

43. Yes.

And they care about it too.

Trust me. I was at a party with a lot of Americans tonight. ExPats like me. 90% of the people at the party were black - like most parties that I attend. Normally I put up with a lot of joshing about my support for Hillary and I'm careful not to bring politics up these days. I was once called a racist because I dared to support Hillary (about a month ago) - by a very good female friend of mine - she was that wrapped up in the idea of an Obama presidency. Tonight... they were very subdued and didn't want to talk about politics.

[gabeana]

46. So these were Average Americans?

is this even in the states, just curious because you said ex pats

[sueragingroz]

64. i'd say pretty average

Ex Pats come from all walks of life.

Most of these folks were office workers or IT folks. They are my co-workers and friends.

I doubt any of them are members of DU or are intensely politically active.

But they watch the news and like to talk about issues of the day just like anyone else.

Because politics wasn't really the topic of the conversation, we ended up chatting about various celebrities and the dog fighting scandal and how cool it would be for the AA community if Queen Latifah were an out gay woman.

And other than one stray comment about Hillary looking like she had work done, there was no mention of Obama or politics in general.

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

93. Shhhhhhh!!!! You Don't Want To Make The OP Think Outside Of One Level Deep, Do Ya?

I mean, their head could explode or somethin! What a mess that would be!!

[dailykoff]

11. McLaughlin barely mentioned it.

In fact somebody had to explain to him what it was.

[MojoMojoMojo]

13. You are foolish .You will hear God Damn America 20 times a day during the GE

Any patriotic American will learn to hate Obama.

[gabeana]

19. Define Patriotic American for me please

I'm curious of what your definition is, you know what mine is
it is defending the constitution and anythng, anyone who tries to harm it I see as un-American

[MojoMojoMojo]

68. My definition doent matter ,what matters is the 99% who consider themselves patriotic.And are deeply

offended by Obamas choice of a preacher.
Its the voters of America who are important ,get it?

[gabeana]

73. Then say Avg american

because it seems like to me the most un-patriotic American takes as the truth whatever their leader says is the truth, i.e Iraq war
that is not patriotic that is just plain stupidity, by the way i think the Avg american was more sense than you give them credit for

[MojoMojoMojo]

82. The Average American identfies themselves as Patriotic.You are about to learn something

When Obama nosedives.And if he makes it to the GE will be decimated by the RW.That leaves the Dems fucked but all you care about is your nomination.

[scheming daemons]

21. Uh no.... because it never came out of Obama's mouth..... NOTHING ever close....

You're still fighting the GOP on their 2004 turf.... EACH CAMPAIGN IS DIFFERENT....


What worked in other campaigns won't work in this one..... The reason CLINTON is losing is because she is still playing by the OLD rules.


You just don't get it.... and you WONT get it until January 20, 2009 - when you are watching Obama being sworn in.

[gabeana]

26. Thats the point he neve said any of that

thats what they are pinning Hillarys hopes on, they also think the average American watches the news, reads blogs, visited news site like those at DU They are hoping this is the Dean scream the big difference between this and the Dean scream is that Dean only lead in the polls, never in actual votes

[MojoMojoMojo]

74. Average American will see hudreds of swiftboat videos before the GE whether they watch the news or

not."God Damn America" doesnt play anywhere except in the Obama camp.

[MojoMojoMojo]

71. I wish and dream but it isnt going to happen.Go out and talk to some real American voters who arent

brainwashed.But you really dont want to know do you?

[gabeana]

78. okay define real americans

I thought I was one, see what your hoping for are stupid americans

[MojoMojoMojo]

88. I never said Americans werent stupid.Thats the point and why Obama is toast

[goldcanyonaz]

24. Yep, the diehards here wont care, but others will. The soundbites will kill us in the GE.

They'll show footage of 9/11 paired with Wrights "The Chickens Came Home to Roust" + "G-D Damned, America".

Then flash to Michelle Obama "For the first time in my adult lifetime, I am really proud of my country."

[HCE SuiGeneris]

67. Desperation. How ugly it is.

[jefferson_dem]

27. I'm a patriotic American.

When do I start hating him?

[MojoMojoMojo]

75. After he loses the GE in a landslide

[JuneFiasco]

107. Come on

You don't have to hate anybody.

[Johnny__Motown]

30. There are lots of insane quotes from Reverends who have endorsed McCain.. won't matter in GE

This story rears it's ugly head again at the end of the month when Wright retires. After that it fades into obscurity where it belongs.



This is longer lasting because it is the candidate's own words and happened repeatedly.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RZsYWiywdCA&feature=related

[OhioBlue]

31. you HAVE got to be kidding

you did not just pull a page from the Republican play book and try to paint Obama supporters as unpatriotic.

So were you for the war in Iraq? Do you think Iraq had something to do with 9/11 and WMDs?

jezzus.

[HCE SuiGeneris]

65. I am sure you will lead the charge. You are so very patriotic.

:eyes:

[shockra]

16. That's the lead on HuffPo.

Arianna's quite anti-Hillary, although she does allow a few alternative views.

[writes3000]

49. Obama's Delegate Win in Iowa is the lead on HuffPo tonight. n/t

[Cheap_Trick]

18. It was a nice try anyway.

I'll give them A for effort but an F for execution. Obama can counter this easily against McCain't. When he runs commercials featuring Wright, Obama can fire back with commercials featuring Hagee and Parsley.

I pity them. They're desperate.

[DesertFlower]

20. i hope your right.

how many times do you think they played that damn thing yesterday? had to make sure everyone heard it.

[dailykoff]

22. The story doesn't resonate because Obama isn't scary.

It'll never catch on except in 29%-land.

[goldcanyonaz]

28. The New York Times just picked it up.

[dailykoff]

34. In the Sunday religion section no doubt.

Yeah that'll sting.

[jefferson_dem]

36. Blistering story at the NYT. "Obama Calls for Unity"

March 15, 2008, 4:10 pm
Obama Calls for Unity
By Jeff Zeleny

PLAINFIELD, Ind. – Senator Barack Obama repudiated the “incendiary” remarks of his former minister today, imploring Americans to set aside racial divisions and heed the words that Robert F. Kennedy delivered not far from here the night the Rev. Martin Luther King Jr. was assassinated.

“At that moment of anguish, he said we’ve got a choice in taking the rage and bitterness and disappointment and letting it fester and dividing us further, so that we no longer see each other as Americans, but we see each other as separate and apart and at odds with each other,” Mr. Obama said. “Or we can take a different path.”
In recent months, race has taken on an increasingly more prominent role in the Democratic nominating fight between Mr. Obama and Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton.

Earlier this week, Geraldine A. Ferraro stepped down from a fund-raising post in Mrs. Clinton’s campaign after suggesting Mr. Obama had an easier path because he is black. And on Friday evening, Mr. Obama removed his Chicago pastor, the Rev. Jeremiah A. Wright Jr. from his campaign’s religious leadership team after videotapes surfaced of racially-charged comments he had made.

Here in Plainfield, an Indianapolis suburb, Mr. Obama addressed the controversy.

“I noticed over the last several weeks, the forces of division have started to raise their ugly heads again. I’m not here to cast blame or point fingers because everybody senses that there’s been this shift,” he said. “You’ve been seeing it in the reporting. You’ve been seeing it in some of the commentary of supporters on all sides. Most recently, you’ve heard some statements of my former pastor that were incendiary and that I completely reject.”
As the crowd of 3,000 people listened intently, Mr. Obama continued.

http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/03/15/obama-calls-for-unity/

[goldcanyonaz]

41. Nope, this one; "Obama Denounces Statements of His Pastor as ‘Inflammatory’"

In the handful of years Senator Barack Obama has spent in the national spotlight, his stance toward his pastor has gone from glowing praise to growing distance to — as of Friday — strong criticism

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/03/15/us/politics/15wright.html?bl&ex=1205726400&en=5a8aba53a3148fae&ei=5087%0A

[gabeana]

56. This is from Saturday morning

if you read the article it is referring to fridays news cycle
and its placement was low on the page, meaning its gettting ready to be archived, I think in the actual paper it was on page A13, i could be wrong though

[gabeana]

38. Where all I see

is a stroy about Obama and Unity, hows that going to hurt him, and the story of Obama and his pastor way down on the page is from saturdays about Fridays Obama blitz

[goldcanyonaz]

44. It's still Saturday on the West Coast. Not everyone is on EST.

[gabeana]

48. I just went to the web site, do they updat it earlier on the E. coast?

[FrenchieCat]

39. Did they pick this up too?......cause this is becoming viral!

as an email!

here's some video info on the church told
by one of the most radical member of "that" church apart from Rev. Wright:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e-JNYmqkbMk&feature=related


Bio on radical preacher Black guy! - http://www.answers.com/topic/jeremiah-wright

This is Jeremiah’s America - The one he saw as a young man
THAT'S NOT OUR AMERICA!

http://negroartist.com/civil%20rights%20imagery/images/Black%20civil%20rights%20demonstrator%20attacked%20by%20a%20dog%20in%20Birmingham,%20Alabama%201963_jpg.jpg

http://negroartist.com/civil%20rights%20imagery/images/Black%20civil%20rights%20demonstrators%20attacked%20by%20police%20water%20hose_%20Birmingham,%20Alabama%20May%201963_jpg.jpg

http://negroartist.com/civil%20rights%20imagery/images/March%20on%20Washington%20for%20civil%20rights,%20August%201963_jpg.jpg









http://negroartist.com/civil%20rights%20imagery/images/March%20on%20Washington_%20Over%20250,000%20Gather%20in%20Washington%20in%20August,%201963%20Urging%20Support%20for%20pending%20Civil%20Rights%20Legislation_jpg.jpg

[gabeana]

51. good find

earlier this week I posted a link to this web site http://www.withoutsanctuary.org/
many pictures of the horrible history of lynching in good ol USof A

[FrenchieCat]

61. Yeah....I saw that when you posted it!

I bookmarked it.....just in case folks forget about the real America as recently as 45 years back.

[gabeana]

63. You know San Leandro is right next to my hometown

[FrenchieCat]

77. Cool. I'm in the hills almost in CV, close to the Neighborhood Church of the 3 Crosses......

but on the hillside with the views facing S.F.

:hi:

[gabeana]

81. My best friends used to live in those hills

I grew up in San Lorenzo

[FrenchieCat]

95. Wow....real close! n/t

[SwampG8r]

84. i remember those exact days

they tend to stand out
my grandfather was a roundhouse boss for the L&N railroad and we all (all us kids)after school would go and play around the yards
my uncle was a conductor and he would give us rides to the crossings and let us blow the whistle
the depot was segregated and the black kids had to use the outside facilities that were maintained for the rail workers and for water they had the hose.
my grandfather thought the rules stupid but had no say in them
in town there were separate water fountains and rest rooms and in the theatre all blacks sat in the balcony
i remember the signs most of all
whites only

so i hear wright and i kind of know where he is coming from
once you see where someones from you see where they want to be
i did that too and i dont think i need to fear him
or his influence on obama

go obama

[ginchinchili]

37. If Obama gets the nomination it'll be back around for sure.

[KittyWampus]

50. haven't you noticed the GOP is RIFE with religious wing nuts?

[barack the house]

40. There are certain storie that if they keep going with they look like outragous victimisers, and

just lose viewing figures. I imagine this sotry has made many switch off in disgust in droves which helps. The impression I get is America isnt as racist as fox would like us to beleive.

[NEDem]

42. Dude, spell check is your friend.

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

52. If You Believe That, You Are Being Quite Naive.

This story is still quite alive all over the place.

[gabeana]

54. I wonder is this your hope

because what is out now is that he is off the campaign, Obama increases lead, and Obama's unity message
because it seems like it is more of hope that it stays in the news.

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

58. If You Wonder That Than You're A Friggin Idiot.

First off, shame on you for even implying that.

Second of all, you are being extremely naive if you think this story is old news already. It's still very much around, people are still commenting on it constantly (blogs etc), stories on google news are being updated about it constantly, and it is still quite readily linked on many major news sites. So please, little bit of reality here, ok?

It might fizzle out after all hopefully, but as of right now it most definitely hasn't. In fact, we might only be seeing the beginning. But to take that FACT and twist it into me HOPING that to be the case? Well yeah, how bout ya take a flying fucking leap for that one pal.

[gabeana]

60. Why do you get so personal

you kinda of seem like a coward hiding behind you key board, you know you hope this explodes even more, so it can put you candidate in position for SD to turn this thing around for her. Thank you for letting me have this much power over your emotions, you are making blush:hi:

[thewiseguy]

69. Just ignore him

He does not add anything to the conversation.

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

72. ROFLMAO!!!! And You? Oh, That's Rich!!!!

Oh how the little brainless kiddies will play... :hi:

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

70. Again: If You Think This Is A Dead Story, You Are Being Amazingly Naive.

And your baiting makes you look like quite a childish moron.

Thinking for a second that this story is dead makes you look deluded.

And as of right now, I'm not firmly behind any of the candidates. But nice try with your knee jerk childish stupidity.

[gabeana]

76. Stop it!

your'e making me blush again

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

83. Putting Your Desperate Need For Attention Aside,

I hope you do recognize how foolish and naive your OP comes off as well as how wrong you are. In the coming days when you see this story is still quite alive, I think you'll look back on this thread and realize how absolutely thoughtless you were in your way too early assessment.

Anyone with even a partially working thinking center of their brain knows this story ain't done yet. Jesus, do you know nothing about politics? Are you a newbie to the landscape of it? I mean either way, to declare this dead, well, whoa...

:rofl:

[gabeana]

90. Did I declare it dead,

I said it might already be out of the news cycle, meaning I could be wrong, isn't that what I said? Now I hope you improve your reading comprehension.
and if you know anything about politics like you think you do, scandals always pop up, remember when Obama's supposed stealing speeches was supposed to sink his campaign, I haven't heard much about that lately have you?

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

92. Jesus. If You Think The Plagiarism Thing Is Comparable To This You're More Naive Than I Thought.

Holy cow. :crazy:

And you ain't fooling anybody with that 'could be wrong' crap either. You posted this thread for a reason. You were hoping it was dead and believed it to be likely enough that you posted a thread on it. The alternative was that you still considered the possibility strongly enough to find it worthy to post a thread hinting at such, even though you knew there was a possibility otherwise. Either way, you were being extremely naive, since it's obvious we haven't come close to hearing the end of this yet.

[gabeana]

94. at the time people thought it was the end of the world

again what did I say in my OP, can i call you condi because you remind me of her when she was in front of the senate and asked what the PDB (do you know what that stands for) header said, Bin laden determined to attack in the United States, again what was my header, repeat it for me.I know you think your smart and you might be if you are the only one in the room, I'm owning you right now. Please keep it going this is fun

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

96. Wow Do You Give Yourself Pats On The Back Easily For Failures.

You've owned nothing but your stupidity and your foolish belief that your header clears you of your naivety. Pssssstttt... Guess what... It doesn't.

Only those who are extremely naive would give serious contemplation that this story will go away now and is done. Those of us who actually, like, ya know, can think and stuff, know full well the gravity of this situation and that it's nowhere near the last the we've heard of it. What you are failing to understand here, and why you come off as naive, is that REGARDLESS of your saying 'it might', it still shows that you were giving serious contemplation to the concept that maybe it had died out. Just that simple fact alone, just the fact that you considered the possibility deeply enough to post a thread posing the question with sincerity, makes you extremely politically naive and quite silly. You think the fact that you said 'it might' puts you in the clear, but it does no such thing. You posted a thread with genuine sincerity posing the question that this might be out of the news cycle. That means you had a hunch, or inkling, inside of you that it justtttttt might be. Well guess what pal: That's naive to think. That's a fact. No matter how much you want to act like a baiting child and pat yourself on the back for your failures of logic and your blind naivety, that fact still stands.

No, this story isn't dying out. Not yet anyway. It will likely be part of this all for quite some time. To think there's a serious chance (or you wouldn't have posted the OP) that this is near the last we'll hear of it, is naive on its face and quite silly to anyone who knows politics at all.

I'm off to bed, so the fun will have to wait for tomorrow. In the meantime, feel free to post another "I have to pat myself on the back to convince myself I'm cool and try and get more attention cause I'm oh so lonely if only I can keep baiting I can get someone to talk to me yayyyyyyy i'm a winner! I'm a winner! I swear!" childish type reply since I know you don't have much, and I don't want to take that away from you. So go ahead! Get to it! Go tell yourself again how cool you are! Go tell OMC how dumb he is and how you've bested him and stuff and how you're just so cool and special and cool and smart and cool and how he's just a big ole poopy head but you're just so cool and stuff... Can't wait to read it in the morning!!! For now, I'm goin to bed laughin my ass off at ya though, for what it's worth.

God you're silly...

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

[gabeana]

98. No your not your going to bed crying

[BenDavid]

55. Just What Did Obama Know About Wright's Past Sermons? ABC News

Open mouth, insert cohorts' feet
Los Angeles Times, CA -

Wright and Wrong
ABC News -

Obama‘s Wright More Trouble than McCain’s Hagee
Blogger News Network -

Uncle Jeremiah National Review Online

Controversial minister now off Obama campaign
Ticker: Minister's sermons under scrutiny cnn

Obama Attempts Damage Control Over Sermons.fox

[gabeana]

57. That is from saturday morning

the story for sunday morning is this

http://www.latimes.com/news/politics/la-na-campaign16mar16,0,3871376.story

Obama decries forces of division

[Scurrilous]

59. I checked my paper (Miami Herald) this morning...

...no mention of Wright.


Where's the legs?


:shrug:

[ampad]

86. I didn't see it in my paper either

All these people so persistent for us to see a story that is not on the front pages crack me up. OK, If I pretend to see the story in my paper will you give? geesh, so freaking desperate.

[metalluk]

62. Dream On!

It will return over and over as long as Obama remains a candidate.

[FrenchieCat]

66. Don't be so concerned....cause we've got our own emails for the GE......

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=5086400&mesg_id=5086400


So whadda are you gonna do now? :shrug:

[bilgewaterbill]

79. Wright story? What Wright story?

[goldcanyonaz]

85. Washington Times has picked it up too.

Obama's call to action

THE WASHINGTON TIMES EDITORIAL

<snip>

In Mr. Obama's "movement for change" there should be no room for racism, real or perceived. His "movement for change" should include repudiating intolerance and bigotry, even if it comes from someone you've called pastor, friend and spiritual leader for 20 years. Mr. Wright's "preaching" is not only political but hateful and runs the risk of further dividing a country Mr. Obama insists on unifying. If, " transcends race" as FOX News analyst Fred Barnes put it last week, not only does he have a duty but a responsibility — as a candidate, leader, American — to reject the man and his message.

http://washingtontimes.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080316/EDITORIAL/720643999

[sueragingroz]

89. yah i saw that too.... but it's a moonie rag...

[sueragingroz]

87. some more from Rev Wright in NY Times Opinion Piece

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/03/15/us/politics/15wright.html?bl&ex=1205726400&en=5a8aba53a3148fae&ei=5087%0A

In the interview last spring, Mr. Wright expressed frustration at the breach in relationship with Mr. Obama, saying the candidate had already privately said that he might need to distance himself from his pastor. But perhaps the two could repair things, said Mr. Wright, pointing out that Mr. Obama’s opponent, Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton, had faced worse.

“At least there are no semen stains on any dresses,” Mr. Wright said, one of several digs he has taken at the Clintons.

“That kind of frankness scares people in the campaign,” he added.

I just saw that this was referred to above.. but the above passage is worth calling out.

[gabeana]

91. thats from Saturday

not sundays edition, unless they are posting it twice because I read that this morning

[JuneFiasco]

101. Yep

MSM killing us all.