Are we (DUers) going to be able to get back to where we were before the primaries?

[jillan]

Poll question: Are we (DUers) going to be able to get back to where we were before the primaries?

I'm beginning to wonder.

I am sure that I am not the only one who feel this way:

People that I used to admire, whose posts I would always make sure to read and rec, have
posted some pretty ugly things.

Someone who I used to stay up late with on a Saturday nite just to chat with, crossed that line with me by personally attacking me, and became one of the few people I have put on ignore.

There have been some mighty ugly things being said around here from both sides.

On a positive note, I think we all have found other people in our little community that we enjoy.


So, I have to ask, are we going to be able to forgive and forget once the primaries are over?

[murielm99]

1. I'm not sure how to answer this.

I am going to wait and see.

You do know that some of these people will go away right after the nominee is chosen. They will be back in another four years.

As far as some of the long-term posters go, I have been attacked by a few, too. We all have. I will be keeping them on ignore, which is a first for me.

Some good people have left. A message board is not worth all this grief. I don't blame them for leaving when the attacks got too personal.

[IndianaGreen]

15. The trolls will be gone

and the rest of us will pick up the pieces and continue to debate and argue the issues, rather than the posters. That's what happened before, and that's what will happen again.

No matter how you slice it, whatever anger we may feel, it pales in comparison with what many of us feel Bush has done to our Constitution and the republic.

[joshcryer]

21. You wouldn't be saying that if you thought Hillary had a chance.

[IndianaGreen]

35. Has Hillary taken the lead in delegates?

We survived '04, and we will survive this unless something really bad happens at the Pepsi Center in Denver that causes the Democratic Party to fracture, but I don't think the grown ups will led that happen.

[sandnsea]

2. No

This primary has disillusioned me in ways the Republicans never could.

[krawhitham]

3. I will vote for the democratic canidate, PERIOD

[jillan]

4. I think most of us will, I'm just curious where DU will be after we have our nominee.

[Faygo Kid]

5. I can't trust posters who misspell their fishy user names (piranha, not pirhana).

I hope my spelling fetish doesn't render me unforgivable.

Actually, an interesting post.

[jillan]

11. ugh -

It's spelled that way on purpose. A family joke from many years ago.

Sorry if it bothers you....but I choose that name - and spelled it that way - for me.

[Faygo Kid]

14. OK. No offense intended.

I'm glad it's intentional. You will note I use neither caps nor a break between words in my pathetic user name.

Who am I to critique others? It's hell being a Virgo sometimes.

[Cameron27]

6. I don't know,

things have been said that are very difficult to forget, especially when it's come from people you thought you knew. I just pop in here now and then to see what's up, maybe post once or twice, and then leave. It's easier than getting caught up in the anger, something that's happened to me more than once.

How did it go after 04'?

[gravity]

7. Yes

The problem is that we are all emotionally attached to our candidates, and think it will be the end of the world if they drop out.

Once there is a clear nominee, the losers will go through the 5 stages of grief until they reach acceptance. Then we will refocus and unite behind a single candidate.

[IndependentDem]

16. "emotionally attached" is the key

many of us have made this personal, instead of political. Courage and passion in what you believe in are great things, but it seems like most posts are now about what is wrong with the other candidate instead of what is right about your candidate. I hope that we will all be able to unite after this is all over, if not we will all be losers.

[jlake]

8. No, I don't think so. Especially if our nominee loses in Nov - or if he/she wins

and is a failure.

[scheming daemons]

9. Other: I refuse to reconcile with someone who can't spell the word PIRANHA correctly...

;-)

[jillan]

12. I really hate having to explain this to people like you, but see my post #11

:crazy:

[RUMMYisFROSTED]

10. Yep.

And it's going to be great, gang!

[Mithreal]

13. Come on people, emotions have been running high, cut your

fellow DU'ers some slack and be willing to forgive.

[Tresalisa]

17. I voted 'yes, but it will take time'.

Being relatively new here, I haven't interacted with many DUers extensively enough to really know you, but what I see are many posters who are excited about their candidate, and that causes the back-and-forth to get heated to the point of boiling over into nasty name-calling and such.

After it's all over and we have our nominee, I think eventually things will get back to whatever "normal" is for any political forum.

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

18. In My Honest, Humble, Always Right Opinion, Anyone Not Burying The Hatchet When This Is All Done Is

not mature enough to be posting here in the first place.

It's a message board. It's a bunch of anonymous people. Some need to get a grip and remember that. Those of us who are adults and keep things in perspective, will all be willing to extend a hand to one another when this is all said and done, and say "Good game".

[Forkboy]

20. Nice post, Hitler.

:P

[matcom]

22. "Those of us who are adults ...."

:rofl:

dude, I've read your threads

:rofl:

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

23. Want A Scooby Snack?

My threads are always mature.

My snarky ass responses might not always be, but at my core I always am.

But being a brilliant wiseass who can eat the amateurs for dinner doesn't make me unadult. It just makes me a huge friggin wiseass. :P

[matcom]

24. mature?

usually full of bullshit innuendo, lacking links, spewing falsehoods...

yeah, you really have brought intelligent discourse to this years primary

:rofl:

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

25. Please Don't Make Me Have To Copy The Definition Of Hypocrisy For Ya From Dictionary.Com.

You're actually acting like quite the child here. Fact is, my reply in this thread was spot on. Not sure why you feel the need to act like some jackass about it or anything, but that's ok. We can all get silly sometimes.

And no, my threads are always well thought out, mature and sincere, unlike half of the DU'ers in GDP who post shit just for sake of being flamebaiting childish jerkoffs.

[matcom]

27. I 100% agree with you about half of the flamebait jerkoffs

unfortunately, you have been sitting in that classroom for a while now

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

28. Well Then You've Been Sittin Right Next To Me.

You're the one needlessly provoking here and acting like the jackass, when my comment was sincere.

See, the difference between me and the childish jerkoffs is that when I respond in the snarky ways that I do, it's in direct relation to either their own stupidity, immaturity, flamebaiting tactics, deluded mentality, falsely conceived points, highly ignorant displays, false attacks, or other reasons in which my comments serve to bring some reality, bluntness or accuracy to the discussion. Their comments, much like yours above, are done with solely the intent of attacking another just for sake of doing so and to cause trouble, with the intention of a trouble making child or annoying little gradeschooler.

Very rarely will you see me respond with the 'OMC' tone to genuine, well intentioned, intelligent and thoughtful posts that are worthy of true discussion. That's the big difference between me and the childish flamebaiting jerkoffs. There's a rhyme and reason for my responses, yet none for theirs. Much like in this thread, there was no other motive nor necessity for you to post your tripe other than to personally attack without provocation nor logical reason to do so. Course, that's what makes me better than you and always will.

So please, continue on with your hypocritical childishness and stupidity. Not like I haven't seen it from you before! :hi:

[matcom]

29. took you 15 minutes to respond. either you were digging for 'evidence' against me

or you are a supremely slow typist.

assuming the former, you really couldn't find anything.

So....

"Hypocritical" is out.

maybe you have been relying on your 'childishness and stupidity' a little too much?

:think:

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

32. Holy Cow You've Got To Be Kidding. Are You That Arrogant To Think My Life Revolves Around You?

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

Yeah, how dare I attend to my children instead of replying to you. Why, your immature tripe is SOOOOOO much more important!!!

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

God was that an amazingly ignorant reply. I hate to disappoint your fragile and overinflated ego, but you're really not all that important to me. In fact, you're quite boring.

[matcom]

33. oh gawd you are a parent?

:cry:

[jillan]

37. --

that was really rude.

[matcom]

38. no matter how much you beg....

i'm happily married thank you very much.

[Forkboy]

19. I'm not the grudge holding type...but....

There are some people that I've liked and respected that I've watched turn into drones for one candidate or the other. Even though I like them and will be able to get along with them, it'll take awhile to get that respect back after seeing how easily they shed their ideals to win.

[AZBlue]

26. The racism is something I won't forget.

Heated conversations, name-calling, nasty comments...eh, it's an online board about politics, what do you expect? To me, that's already forgotten.

However, the racist comments and the DU'ers who have been shown to be bigots - no, those I won't forget.

[BooScout]

30. I have already started spending more time elsewhere on the net...

I find myself coming here less often because there's no adult conversations. It seems to be mostly name calling and taking jabs at each other.

Thankfully there are other places to actually discuss the issues.

[Raine]

31. No

some people I had to put on ignore and they'll probably stay there cause they were so rude and insulting. :-(

[NastyRiffraff]

34. it'll take time, probably a lot of time.

Yes, I'm bitter about the insults and the ad hominum attacks. However, as long as they don't continue, I'm willing to forgive and forget. My fear is that they will continue if Obama wins the nomination. Will his supporters try to goad those of us who didn't support him into saying something that will get us tombstoned? Or will he mods have a hair-trigger that tombstones anyone who even dares to criticize the nominee? (Espcially since I suspect the majority of mods are now Obama supporters) I'm not talking about attacks, but criticism.

So, we'll see.

[bain_sidhe]

36. As a "survivor" of the 2004 version of GD-P, I'd have to say no.

And, yes, in some ways, but mostly no.

I came here shortly after Bush was inaugurated in 2001. April of that year, I think it was. At that time, it was my refuge in a hostile and depressing world that seemed to have turned against me, and those like me. A place to regroup, recharge, relax. A friendly pub where I could let my hair down with like-minded folks.

I was a Clark supporter in the 2004 primaries. It got pretty bad in here, between the "Deaniacs" and the "Kerryites" and the "Clarkies." After the nomination was determined, yes, we did come together and start aiming our fire at Bush again, instead of each other... but the ambiance was different. I've never quite looked at DU in the same way since then. I didn't hang out here as much, and lurked more than I posted when I did.

Reaching for an analogy, I'd have to say that I looked at it the way you'd look at the family dog if it suddenly attacked you. The same dog that you rolled around in the back yard with, the one you cried your tears into its fur after some disappointment, the one you looked forward to seeing after school, is suddenly a little scary. Even if it never attacked you again, you'd just never be quite as comfortable with it as you had been before the attack.

So, no, it won't be the same. But it will heal. There'll just be some scars.

[jesus_of_suburbia]

39. Yes, but it will take time.

It will take time for me to forgive anyone on either side who said they won't necessarily vote for the Dem nominee.

That is not acceptable to me.

I will forgive though.