********************To Hillary Supporters********************

[Hutzpa]

Is there any chance Hillary would be able to answer these questions once and for
all or produce documents to the following, just the same way Obama did with
the Chicago Tribune and Chicago Sun. If she so cares for America, I think she
should be able to do this without any anger.

Maybe as supporters you might be able to answer these yourself, why not give it
a try;

1. Release her 2006 and 2007 tax returns

2. Release her earmark bills

3. Release her white house diary schedule files

4. Identify what exactly did she do with foreign governments that makes her qualified to be President

5. Explain to the American people whats in those 35 years worth of public office (and exactly what public office she held in 35 years that has prepared her for the Presidency

6. What qualifies her to answer the 3AM call

7. What National Security Clearance did she have as First Lady
If so, who allowed her security clearance on sensitive issues
regarding foreign affairs.

8. Why would she take her teenage daughter into a 'war zone' to deal with a major National Security issue

9. Why does Bill deal with our overseas enemies and have them bankroll Hillary 'No Experience' Clinton's campaign

Try convincing us why we should all change our votes and minds to wards your candidates.

This is not a bashing thread, this should be seen as an opportunity to finally cast
the doubters.




O8)

[Maribelle]

1. 'the same way Obama did with the Chicago Tribune and Chicago Sun'?

In sixteen months? :rofl:

[Hutzpa]

5. Is this the best you can offer? n/t

[Maribelle]

9. I didn't offer anything. I asked a question.

Are you trying to deny it took the Chicago media 16 months to get Obama to sit down with them?

[gabeana]

11. You were asked a question

you couldn't answer, enough said

[Maribelle]

18. I asked if I had 16 months. That was a fair response.

Perhaps you don't know the significance of the 16 months - - but it was totally related to the OP - -unlike your hate pomp.

[gabeana]

22. No you didn't, can you answer those questions?

you can't, don't change the subject, whine about hate,
but you can't, fine

[TheDoorbellRang]

24. sixteen months vs. years? decades?

Obama was "on trial" in the media on one issue and answered all their questions completely. He has dumped his one piece of carry-on luggage.

Clinton has yet to provide transparency on ANY of her multitudes of secrets dating back to her "experience" in the W.H. She's got a whole container of baggage just waiting to burst open.

[The_Casual_Observer]

2. "repeated lapses of judgment"

:rofl:

[havocmom]

4. Do wake me if HRC answers those relevant questions

I'll be over here, not holding my breath.

[gabeana]

8. you can't answer,

you have an empty pant suit for your cult leader

[The_Casual_Observer]

20. "repeated lapses of judgment" " Never heard him say THOSE things!"

:rofl:

[gabeana]

3. do you really think you are going to get an honest answer?

:popcorn:

[Hutzpa]

12. Well,

they kept talking about Obama supporters bashing them, this is their time to show
that their candidate deserves the Democratic party nomination.

[MannyGoldstein]

6. Has She Repudiated Her Husband's Use Of Outsourced Torture?

How about the donor list for the Clinton Library?

[LordJFT]

7. Hillary's supporters can't actually produce said answers

:rofl:

[Rabrrrrrr]

10. I don't understand "to wards your candidate".

What is "wards"?

Perhaps if you wrote more clearly, using question marks on questions and periods on sentences.

Opportunity to "finally cast the doubters"? I don't understand that, either.

Seriously, if you wish to communicate seriously, be more serious about your syntax and grammar. It's not fucking rocket science.


As to your original question, "Is there any chance" - yes, of course there's a chance. It's slim, but, hey, that's all you asked for - "Is there a chance?".

Perhaps if you asked the question you intended, instead of a sloppy, ill-formed colloquial nonsense question, people would take you more seriously.

[psychopomp]

14. Deflect, redirect, obfuscate

and generally kick up enough dust until nobody can see what the goal was--typical Repug tactics.

Good work!

[Hutzpa]

15. Ad hominem = pus n/t

[Rabrrrrrr]

17. Wow - you didn't even read my post, did you?

No, you didn't.

[Hutzpa]

19. No time for your Ignorance,

why don't you try answering those questions, then we can indulge
each other.

[Rabrrrrrr]

23. delete - dupe post

[Rabrrrrrr]

25. If you actally read my post, you would know why I don't answer those questions.

Your ignorance is shining like a bright goddamn light right now, and it's embarrassing to the Obama supporters.

[Hutzpa]

30. You still haven't answered my question,

I'm giving you one more chance to redeem yourself.

[Rabrrrrrr]

39. I don't need to redeem myself, which you would know if you had read my post.

My first post, the one you haven't read very closely, explains it all. I also offered explanation in my other post.

Somehow you keep missing the obvious.

[Hutzpa]

44. Ok, here goes....

since you're not prepared to acknowledged your insipid attempt in answering questions
to my OP, you leave me no choice but to expose your inadequate and inarticulate
deranged thoughts process, your insurmountable mind only knows one thing which is to
use Ad hominem in an attempt to discredit an issue which requires an honest discussion.

Your first response not only exposes your deeper inability to answer my question but also
shed light into your attempt at disparaging me. In the mean time did YOU find the chance
to read post #14, I guess not, because your aim is to attack the writer of the thread so as
to redirect folks attentions from the topic at hand.

With an attitude as that, there is no point in responding to you, as you have already
shown your motive for posting is not to address the issues but to distort, redirect and
obfuscate. (from poster #14)

I now know there is no chance of getting an answer from you, I would be ever so grateful
if you can refrain from posting rhetorical babbling on my thread, since its now been
established you have no intention of answering any of those questions posed above.

[Rabrrrrrr]

49. I've never attempted to answer your questions. Thus, I can't have made "insipid" attempts,

as you accuse in your first sentence, even though you then later, at the end your post, insist that I've no intention of answering the questions at all.

:shrug:


I never tried to discredit your issue, either. You'd know that if you had read my first post.

So let me spell it out for you - I said, in my first post, the chance of getting any answers to your questions is slim.

I said in another post that your locutions are embarrassing to Obama supporters.

Perhaps I should have been more clear and said "embarrassing to *us* Obama supporters".

That should have been the big hint that I do not answer the questions because I do not know the answers, and I, too, am curious what the answers are. But, as I also said in my first post, the one I kept asking you to read, I think the chance of you getting any answers to those questions is slim.

The only reason I attacked your grammar is because it was so embarrassingly sloppy. Not the kind of sloppy that comes from not knowing what one is saying, but the sloppiness that comes from just being lazy. The importance of your questions was totally overshadowed by your cutesy and sophomoric disregard for the language we are all using. Some things that might be fine in casual speech or in cell phone text messaging or might be artistic usage in a college creative writing class are not appropriate when is trying to dialog about important topics at an adult level on a discussion forum that exists solely through written communication.

[Hutzpa]

51. Wow.... just wow!!

You are actually an Obama supporter.....:wow:

22. Sadly, though I am an Obama supporter, some few of my fellows have been as purity-driven and rabid and fucking assholish as the fundy Hillary supporters.

It's a goddamned embarrassment, is what it is, for the Democratic party

came from your thread on March 14th.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=132&topic_id=5082859#5083960

You are actually sad of being an Obama supporter, really, since when is a supporter
sad to render support to their candidate, the only reason I can come up with is you don't
believe in your candidate and what they stand for, neither do you believe in what
the grass root politics stands for.

also this;

The only reason I attacked your grammar is because it was so embarrassingly sloppy. Not the kind of sloppy that comes from not knowing what one is saying, but the sloppiness that comes from just being lazy. The importance of your questions was totally overshadowed by your cutesy and sophomoric disregard for the language we are all using. Some things that might be fine in casual speech or in cell phone text messaging or might be artistic usage in a college creative writing class are not appropriate when is trying to dialog about important topics at an adult level on a discussion forum that exists solely through written communication.

I must have died and gone to heaven.......

Let me say this to you, your kind of support is what Obama does not want, hmmmmm.......
let me see, you're only here because you want to sound cool to your peers when you speak,
you have no idea what grass roots politics is about your attack on my grammar and sloppiness,
exposes that, you sounded just like the DLC within the Democratic party, want to belong
but at the same time wants to look good to the Republicans because you don't want them
(Republicans) see who they are associating with......well.....:wtf: are you doing here.

I certainly would not want you as a surrogate or a compadre'

[Rabrrrrrr]

52. And you offer a great witness and testimony to the importance of using language correctly.

I did not say, "Sadly, though, I am an Obama supporter..."

I said, "Sadly, though I am an Obama supporter..."

Notice the lack of a second comma in what I actually did say.

Do not try to put words in my mouth that I did not speak.

I support Obama wholeheartedly. Which you would know, if you bothered to actually read with the intent to comprehend, instead of the intent to have some kind of asinine emotionalistic reaction to what you wish was said.

Your sense of logic is also fucking bizarre - I point out your grammatical Frankensteinism, and you accuse of me of not understanding grass roots politics, and that I only want to look to my peers. That's an ignorant universe-defying leap in logic that even Ann Coulter or John Hagee couldn't manage. It's especially hilarious, though disgustingly pathetic at the same time, because it's so utterly fucking wrong.

Though it's somewhat difficult to tell entirely what you are trying to say because your random use of commas and inability to use periods makes your run-on sentences impossible to decipher as to which fragment belongs with which, and which is modifying which.

I don't know whether to laugh at your lack of comprehension, or cry that our school system has somehow allowed you to progress without the ability to read and communicate clearly. Because if you are older than 7th grade, something is seriously fucking amiss.

In the mood I am tonight, I guess I am more on the laughing side. And I choose that side simply because of your utterly laughable and inexcusably ignorant misreading of my statement for which you somehow felt the need to go digging.

:rofl:

Oh, man. Sorry, but it's just.... well, wrong. Language is far too important to use as lazily as you use it. I don't think you lack the skill to write clearly and accurately - I think you lack the care. And that's really sad.

[Snarkoleptic]

13. ********To Hillary********

[RBInMaine]

16. GOOD post ! Yes, please Hillary, just WHAT is your great "Experience"? And,

please tell us just how it is more valuable than Obama's 20 years of experience. ???

Obama = Columbia and Harvard Law Grad, Prez of Law Review
Community Organizer
Lived Overseas, in several states, has been to other countries
and seen other cultures up close
Constitutional Law Scholar and Professor
Practicing Civil Rights Attorney
Elected Office at TWO levels of government and now a total of
three legislative chambers (MORE campaigns and years in ELECTED
office than Hillary Clinton)

Hillary has some valuable experiences too, but tell me how the Walmart Board and fat cat Rose Law Firm years add to her "great experience" and tell me how her experience is better than Obama's???? How is she any more qualified than Obama????

[IndependentDem]

21. i wish she would put all of these issues to rest...

and it really isnt the issues that bother me, it is the reluctance to answer them. just as with obama, he should have put the rezco thing to rest much earlier and HE should have mentioned the potentially damaging issues regarding his church. but thats politics i guess.

[Breeze54]

26. I'm sure all the "Clinton" supporters were issued crystal balls.

Here's mine from Election 2004.

[rug]

27. I, for one, would like to know her good cholesterol/ bad cholesterol numbers.

[RBInMaine]

28. Just answer an honest question. What's so hard? Scared ?

[rug]

29. Not you. You.

[zulchzulu]

31. I think I can provide you with the answers from the Clinton campaign

1. Release her 2006 and 2007 tax returns

The tax returns will be released when the time is right. There are over 20 years of records you can look at in the meantime. (Taken from MTP interview with Lowrey)

2. Release her earmark bills

Hillary Clinton stands for getting corruption out of Washington DC and will do it from Day One. Why should Hillary Clinton be picked on? Because she is a woman. (this would be an assumed answer)

3. Release her white house diary schedule files

The schedule files will be released when the time is right. There are over 35 years of the Clintons and their life that you can look at in the meantime. (this would be an assumed answer)

4. Identify what exactly did she do with foreign governments that makes her qualified to be President

Hillary Clinton has 35 years of experience and visited over 80 countries. (obvious avoiding of question)

5. Explain to the American people whats in those 35 years worth of public office (and exactly what public office she held in 35 years that has prepared her for the Presidency

The Clintons together make up for over 70 years of experience serving the public or being in public. (New line they could use doubling the 35 and leaving the question unanswered)

6. What qualifies her to answer the 3AM call

Hillary Clinton has 35 years of experience and visited over 80 countries. (obvious avoiding of question)

7. What National Security Clearance did she have as First Lady. If so, who allowed her security clearance on sensitive issues regarding foreign affairs.

Hillary Clinton has 35 years of experience and visited over 80 countries and together make up for over 70 years of experience serving the public or being in public. (obvious avoiding of question)

8. Why would she take her teenage daughter into a 'war zone' to deal with a major National Security issue

Hillary Clinton stands for getting corruption out of Washington DC and will do it from Day One and has 35 years of experience and visited over 80 countries. (um...yeah...)

9. Why does Bill deal with our overseas enemies and have them bankroll Hillary 'No Experience' Clinton's campaign

Why do you ask questions that Ken Starr would ask? Hillary Clinton has 35 years of experience and visited over 80 countries and together make up for over 70 years of experience serving the public or being in public. The campaign records will be released when the time is right. There are over 20 years of records you can look at in the meantime.


See? It's pretty easy...

[Hutzpa]

32. Thanks,

Its its a good try, my guess is, they will fail from day one in giving those answers.

[rodeodance]

33. **CUT THE CRAP--STOP THIS FOREVER CALLING OUT HILLARY SURPPORTS!!

[theHandpuppet]

40. Yeah and these threads are always prefaced with...

.... "this is not a bashing thread, but..."

And then, on cue, the Obamatons jump in and proceed to post nothing but a Hillary bash-fest. What a joke.

Obamatons are the trap-door spiders of DU. No thanks, says this little fly.

[usrbs]

34. I'll answer some

Not that it'll really matter.

1. Talented and smart, like your candidate:

* In Wellesley College, she was chosen by her classmates to be the first-ever student commencement speaker.

* When she was just 30, President Carter appointed her to the board of the United States Legal Services Corporation, a federal nonprofit program that funds legal assistance for the poor.

* Hillary was twice named one of the 100 most influential lawyers in America.


2. Her choices show her to be a true Democrat at heart, again, like your candidate. Hillary has consistently worked for the poor, and women and children.

* Following graduation, she became a staff attorney for the Children's Defense Fund.

* She ran a legal aid clinic for the poor when she first got to Arkansas and handled cases of foster care and child abuse


3. Like your candidate, Hillary is far from pristine, as I assume her records would show. Actually, I thonk it applies more to Bill. But I doubt there's anything really horrible or it would have been discovered. Sort of like Rezco, or that nuclear bill Obama punted on.

4. Experience:

* Hillary has always been an involved and interested partner to her husband and has taken on various tasks both in Arkansas and in Washington. I count that as extremely relevant experience, just as I'd count Al Gore's experience as VP.

* She has been an effective Senator, winning the support of conservative-leaning areas in her state and she got re-elected with 67% of the vote. While a Senator, she was instrumental in bringing funds and aid to the city and the first responders after 911.


5. 3AM

I think she'll be able to answer the 3am call better than Obama. In the debates, she certainly answered most questions about emergencies and policy better than him. Besides she'll be able to get advice from the best. Before dissing that, think - wouldn't you have liked Bush to have conferred with his father?

[Hutzpa]

35. You have just failed

your first test

When she was just 30, President Carter appointed her to the board of the United States Legal Services Corporation, a federal nonprofit program that funds legal assistance for the poor.

I'm I missing something? When did she worked for Carter?

Tripping on the starting block is not a good sign.

[better tomorrow]

37. and besides.....Obama's father is dead.....can confer unless

he talks to God like Dubya....

[usrbs]

38. I knew there was no point, but I did try

This was from the Clinton website. I doubt it's false, but believe whatever you want to.

Did you even check this?

Are you a qualified "tester" all of a sudden?

Stop wasting my time. The next time you ask a question of supporters I'll ignore you like the rest so you can say that HRC supporters never respond to questions.

Bye.

[Recursion]

42. That was a good answer, but this doesn't sound better than Obama's experience

Thank you, but I simply don't see this "lifetime of experience" or "35 years of experience" in that resume. She clearly had talents that were recognized by her law professors (incidentally, I think both times she was named to the 100 most influential lawyers were as first lady). So she's done some good lawyering and some corporate lawyering, some lobbying, and some legislating. While I don't expect you to agree, can you understand why some of us aren't exactly blown over by this resume, and don't particularly "get" the "experience" claim?

[better tomorrow]

36. and one more question....

Where was she when Bill was with Monica? :rofl:

[Apollo11]

41. ******************** To spokane *********************

[DeeDeeNY]

43. We don't need to know this anymore

Evidently the most important factors on whether a candidate is qualified to be president are the sermons of their pastor.

:sarcasm:

[knixphan]

45. Clinton Library Donors!

Wanna see em.

Especially the ones from oil-producing nations.

Especially them.

[MyNameGoesHere]

46. Uh no, because really it won't change your mind. So nice playing with ya. n/t

[Hutzpa]

47. ????

:crazy:

[MyNameGoesHere]

48. My explanation or anyone

else's would not change your mind. So what's the point? And crazy eyes back at you if that helps.

[Scurrilous]

50. K & R

:thumbsup: