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Tropics_Dude83 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-17-08 01:35 AM
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WOW!: Dick Morris-Obama CANNOT and MUST not be held accountable for his pastor
From a Rasmussen article:

The fact is that Obama cannot and should not be held accountable for the ranting and raving of his minister, unless he fails to disavow these remarks. He has done all he needs to do in distancing himself from the likes of Farrakhan. And is success is due to his imaginative use of the political process to achieve what he has earned.

Obama out-organized Hillary by focusing on the small caucus states in February, by which time Hillary confidently expected the race to be over.

Obama out-messaged Hillary by refusing special interest PAC or lobbyist money, giving him a way to paint Hillary as the candidate of the Washington establishment.

Obama out-fund raised Hillary by understanding the potential of the Internet to raise quick and clean money and to permit reloading quickly.
Obama out-positioned Hillary by using her claim to experience (faux as it was) to paint her as just another cycle in the oscillation between Bushes and Clintons which has dominated our politics for two decades now.

Obama out-spoke Hillary by showing and eloquence and elegance that she cannot hope to match.

Obama out-targeted Hillary by focusing on young voters and grasping the amazing insight that in an election with a black and a woman, that age would be the decisive variable.

And now Hillary is trying, through her surrogate Ferraro, to make it appear that all Obama had to do was show up, show some skin and win.
Even for the Clintons, this is a new low.

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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-17-08 01:40 AM
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1. Ya know what? FUCK Dick Morris. I don't care who he supports or
doesn't, why does anyone give him the time of day? :grr:
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Tropics_Dude83 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-17-08 01:41 AM
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2. Actually I'm starting to like him
Don't forget he worked for President Clinton even in Arkansas! I don't think he's a Sean Hannity or Rush Limbaugh at all.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-17-08 01:46 AM
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8. You need to edumicate yourself and stop spouting off. Bon Soir.
I'm tired of doing it. Brush up, bucko!
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emilyg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-17-08 02:45 AM
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26. He's dumber.
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McCamy Taylor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-17-08 02:46 AM
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27. Dick Morris is a toe sucking Hillary-bashing troll. He calls Hill a lesbo and worse
at every opportunity. He would support Satan if he were competing for the Democratic nomination against Hillary. He would suck Satan's toes if he were a Dem candidate against Hillary.

The enemy of my enemy is not my friend. Not when it is Dick Morris.
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-17-08 01:44 AM
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4. Me thinks some folks have realised this will backfire on them.
;)

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flyarm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-17-08 01:42 AM
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3. did he get a hookers toes out of his mouth long enough to speak? eom
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-17-08 01:44 AM
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5. LOL!
:hi:


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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-17-08 01:50 AM
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16. .....
:rofl:

Yet ANOTHER baastid who made his wife do the "stand by your man" routine. I guess she eventually dumped his toe sucking ass:



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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-17-08 01:45 AM
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6. Fuck posting Dick Morris
and other right wing assholes here to support a candidate. Morris has an agenda, duh, and it's not to see a dem in the White House. It pisses me off to see right wing crap posted here. Idiotic.
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rug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-17-08 01:46 AM
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7. He really likes Obama.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-17-08 01:47 AM
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9. And I like you. Just as unlikely. nt
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Tropics_Dude83 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-17-08 01:47 AM
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10. Yeah I think it's the case
He seems to like and respect Obama. And I like him.
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woolldog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-17-08 02:35 AM
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24. Dick Morris and Bill O'Reilly like Obama
Edited on Mon Mar-17-08 02:36 AM by woolldog
I don't know if they'll vote for him. Probably not. ok almost defnitely not. But they like the political game and you definitely get the sense that they view Obama as a great politician and respect that, even if they disagree with his policies.
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-17-08 01:48 AM
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12. I doubt the pathological little toad (toed?)
likes Obama at all. He does hate the Clintons though. And I don't like seeing any wingnut posted approvingly here.
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Tropics_Dude83 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-17-08 01:50 AM
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14. The "wingnut" was a senior Clinton advisor for years n/t
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Tropics_Dude83 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-17-08 01:50 AM
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15. Is David Gergen a wing nut? n/t
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-17-08 01:57 AM
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19. Nope.
Gergen is an honorable guy. Morris? A pig.
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-17-08 01:56 AM
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17. So what?
He's still a wingnut creep with an agenda, and I doubt it's one that's helpful to Obama.
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americanstranger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-17-08 01:47 AM
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11. Hey, you forgot part of the quote in your headline!
The fact is that Obama cannot and should not be held accountable for the ranting and raving of his minister, unless he fails to disavow these remarks.

"Let me say at the outset that I vehemently disagree and strongly condemn the statements that have been the subject of this controversy. I categorically denounce any statement that disparages our great country or serves to divide us from our allies. I also believe that words that degrade individuals have no place in our public dialogue, whether it's on the campaign stump or in the pulpit. In sum, I reject outright the statements by Rev. Wright that are at issue."

What's your point? that he didn't use the word 'disavow?'

Lame. Even by your lame standards.

- as
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Tropics_Dude83 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-17-08 01:49 AM
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13. LOL
Hardly. My point was that even a conservative isn't ready to throw Obama under the bus for what his pastor said. BTW, I support Obama. But, that's right, I forgot, we have to hate everyone who's not an arch democrat.
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bhikkhu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-17-08 01:57 AM
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18. Thanks Morris, but can you get off the bandwagon now?
Edited on Mon Mar-17-08 01:57 AM by bhikkhu
Some people seem to think Clinton-bashing is the ticket to being back in the game. Enough is enough.
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PFunk Donating Member (687 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-17-08 02:00 AM
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20. So Morris made some good points and (IMO) is right in this case. However...
that doesn't change the fact that he's still slime in my book. And even a broken clock is right twice a day.
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StevieM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-17-08 02:20 AM
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21. This really shows what a bad person Dick Morris is. He doesn't even believe that
Hillary asked Ferraro to say those things. They were a nightmare for Clinton's campaign. The notion that she wanted them said is stupid beyond belief. And unlike other Hillary-haters, Morris knows it isn't true. He just wants to smear her and rip her apart and see her lose, because his heart is filled with hatred.

The great irony here is that when Morris was disgraced, after being caught with a prostitute, Hillary tried to protect him. A lot of Clinton staffers had long hated him and were tempted to publicly denounce him. Hillary was worried that Dick was troubled enough to commit suicide and ordered them to hold their tongues.

Steve
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woolldog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-17-08 02:28 AM
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22. link?
How about a link for those of us interested in reading the whole thing?
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nsd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-17-08 02:30 AM
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23. Here
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woolldog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-17-08 02:37 AM
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25. thanks!
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McCamy Taylor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-17-08 02:48 AM
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28. Dick Morris LIED and said Obama never introduced a bill....
Edited on Mon Mar-17-08 02:49 AM by McCamy Taylor
http://mediamatters.org/items/200612200003

"On the December 18 edition of Fox News' The Big Story with John Gibson, Fox News political analyst Dick Morris falsely claimed that Sen. Barack Obama (D-IL) has "never introduced a bill" in Congress. In fact, according to the Library of Congress' THOMAS legislative database, Obama was the primary sponsor of 152 bills and resolutions introduced in the last Congress, including a bill (S.2125) that passed Congress on December 8, 2006, "to promote relief, security, and democracy in the Democratic Republic of the Congo," which he introduced on December 16, 2005. The bill is awaiting action by the president. In addition, three nonbinding resolutions sponsored by Obama have passed the Senate, and 14 bills that he has co-sponsored have become law."
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McCamy Taylor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-17-08 02:51 AM
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29. Dick Morris LIED and said Obama voted no on ethics reform...
http://www.newshounds.us/2007/01/17/dick_morris_repeats_false_claim_obama_voted_against_ethics_reform.php

"Last night (1/16/07) on Hannity & Colmes, Dick Morris discussed Barack Obama's "first misstep" of voting against legislation that would prevent legislators from hiring family members to work on their campaigns or PAC's (political action committees). Morris made the further (unsubstantiated) accusation that Obama's vote was due to the fact that he didn't want to get on the bad side of Rep. Jesse Jackson Jr. by disallowing his wife from working on his campaign. But, as Media Matters reports, the misstep was Morris'. Obama never voted against the measure. With video."

Read the rest for more details.
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McCamy Taylor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-17-08 02:53 AM
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30. Morris says Obama only doing well because he has never taken heat from media....
http://factbeat.com/get_story.php?id=127

"Falsehood: Fox News contributor Dick Morris said that he thought Clinton would go on to win the Democratic nomination after her victory in New Hampshire. "The battle of Hillary Clinton was over and she has taken all the shots, the worst stuff she could possibly take and she survived it," Morris said.

"Morris went on, giving his opinion on why Obama would not win. "The battle of Barack Obama is about to begin," he said. Morris also stated that the reason Barack Obama has done so well is because he has "lived a charmed life with the media," and that most in the media haven't "gone after him, they haven't pinned him down."'
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-17-08 03:20 AM
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31. Dick Morris is a slimy piece of SHIT
this is a new low for DU
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Hippo_Tron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-17-08 03:30 AM
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32. A stopped clock is right twice a day
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cooolandrew Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-17-08 03:35 AM
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33. What is a low for others is high for Barack. Inspiration is life we move the world with it ..
..through art or music to bring beauty to the world.
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