"Pastor Wright goes down the Obama memory hole" (scrubbed from website)

[displacedtexan]

From American Thinker:

Steve Gilbert of Sweetness & Light notices that Pastor Jeremiah Wright, Jr. has become a non-person on the Barack Obama campaign website. Thanks to a Google cache, before-and-after views of the website are available.

I gather the hope is that everyone will now forget the 2 decades of close ties between the two men. But that's not a hope or a change I can believe in.

Before:




After:

Make of it what you will.

[anonymous171]

1. I thought it was good that he was disassociating himself from the pastor.

[jlake]

5. It is, but to pretend it never happened is very Orwellian.... you know, like Bush.

[olkaz]

10. Just like how Elliot Spitzer was scrubbed from the Clinton website.

Do as we say, not as we do.

[jlake]

15. Was Elliot Spitzer part of Hillary's campaign? Was he going to have a

position in her administration? Was he previously described as her moral compass?

Or was he the Governor of the state Hilly represents in the US Senate?

[FunkyLeprechaun]

17. Sort of

He endorsed her after all. I'm sure he worked to get her elected in NY.

[Umbram]

21. I thought we were talking about scrubbing websites?

Funny, I guess we're doing more Hillary goalpost moving with this discussion.

[jlake]

24. I'm talking about the whole "I know nothing about Mr. ..."

You know Hilly doesn't pretend not to know Spitzer.
Obama on the other hand....

[Umbram]

42. Wow...

You don't think the fact that Obama went on station after station admitting that Wright was his pastor was a pretty clear indication? He never denied it.

Don't you have a bridge you should be guarding?

[jlake]

Those are JUST WORDS. Why was his ACTION to attend the church and praise Rev. Wright

for 19 years.... until he was caught.

That's the whole WORDS vs. ACTIONS thing....

[Umbram]

48. You just said he denies knowing his pastor, now you are changing the subject AGAIN. (nt)

[jlake]

50. He denies knowing about the Rev's sermons. He denies that the rev was his

greatest influence and "moral compass" and "key in his decision making" as he had previously said.
Obama was in tight with Wright and Rezko..... he is an extremely corrupt Chicago politician who tries to skate once things turn ugly.

[Umbram]

52. Now, anther topic change. Moving the goalposts with each post.(nt)

[jlake]

54. You are so blinded it is sad. It's called a conversation.

I suspect you don't really support Obama anyway.

[Umbram]

56. Watching you struggle desperately to be relevant is hardly a conversation. (nt)

[jlake]

58. Obama is a lying racist who supports radical views.

[elmerdem]

63. keep spouting

you are only making it easier to determine there is nothing to your argument.

[olkaz]

65. You're better than this.

Read what you write before you hit "post".

None of our candidates have been racists or radicals.

[olkaz]

49. Again, explain to me how Elliot Spitzer was not scrubbed from the Clinton website.

Still waiting.

[rodeodance]

72. ROVIAN tactic to change the subject and distract. Pay attention to the OP

[olkaz]

76. Are you freaking serious?

The topic is that Obama scrubbed the minister from his website.

I countered with Clinton scrubbing her supporter Elliot Spitzer from her website.

How is this Rovian? It's direct, verifiable, and applicable.

[rodeodance]

77. i am serious.

[rodeodance]

70. spot on!!---Poor JUDGMENT on BO's part --He knew of comments at time he

decided to run for Pres. but did nothing until media called him out.


makes him look petty.

[MethuenProgressive]

23. Was Spitzer Clinton's spritual advisor, role model, and mentor?

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/custom/religion/chi-070121-relig_wright,1,271630.story
Did Clinton base her book on a Spitzer sermon?
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x5119467

[olkaz]

35. This is about scrubbing websites.

I mean, am I wrong?

[rodeodance]

38. you are one who brought up spitzer.

[olkaz]

43. I used an example to show how Hillary has done the same thing.

And it's relevent.

So why are we trying to make Obama's seem worse?

They both did it, it's an objective fact.

[Umbram]

46. They can't stay on topic.

They literally do not have the ability to follow along.

[rodeodance]

75. start your own thread if you want to change the subject mattter.

[Umbram]

45. In regards to scrubbing websites.

Reading comprehension: F.

[whatchamacallit]

9. Good for him, bad for rabid Hill supporters

I don't believe they are silly enough to actually be outraged over Wright's words. If we weren't in the middle of this race they wouldn't give a rat's ass about Wright. Matter of fact I'm willing to bet many of them would agree with much of what he said. At this time though they cling to every false scandal like their lives depend on it.

[MethuenProgressive]

27. "The government lied about inventing the HIV virus as a means of genocide against people of color."

"I don't believe they are silly enough to actually be outraged over Wright's words."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeremiah_Wright

"Silly"?

[mrreowwr_kittty]

41. Are we talking about the same government who left thousands of black people to die in NOLA?

And the government who left black men untreated for syphillis for decades, in order to study them like lab rats?

That government? Why, I can't imagine why black people would think that the U.S. government has less-than-honorable intentions toward their community. :sarcasm:

[juno jones]

51. Thank you!

Needed to be said.

[MethuenProgressive]

55. After they invented Katrina, Wright?

'The gummint invented AIDS and hurricanes to commit genocide against people of color.'
How's that gonna fly in the general election, t.c.b.?

[whatchamacallit]

59. I don't care to defend Wright. For me it's about the dishonesty of taring Obama with Wright's words

It's a false issue and YOU know it.

[MethuenProgressive]

64. Ferrao was not Clinton's mentor, role model, inspiration, and pastor of 20 years.

Nor was Shaheen.
Obama based his convention keynote speech and his best selling book "The Audacity of Hope" on Wright's sermon "Audacity to Hope," so as you can see there a huge difference.

REV. JEREMIAH A. WRIGHT, JR.: Pastor inspires Obama's 'audacity'
In Wright he had found both a spiritual mentor and a role model.
...
Wright helps keep his priorities straight and his moral compass calibrated.
...
Later he would base his 2004 keynote speech to the Democratic National Convention on a Wright sermon called "Audacity to Hope," --also the inspiration for Obama's second memoir, "The Audacity of Hope."
...

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/custom/religion/chi-070121-relig_wright,1,271630.story?page=2

[rodeodance]

71. BO is the one with poor JUDGMENT!

[mrreowwr_kittty]

61. I didn't realize that was part of Obama's platform.

:shrug:

[MethuenProgressive]

66. His supporters are bringing it up on the Internet.

If it does well in the focus group he'll claim he's believed it since childhood.

[mrreowwr_kittty]

67. Dude, you've seriously got chutzpah talking about "focus groups" considering who you support

Hillary Clinton doesn't take a crap without focus group-ing it first.

[rodeodance]

79. Hillary learns from people in her focus groups on the trail. BO just gets SWOONERS

[rodeodance]

83. too bad he chose to make Wright an issue

[rodeodance]

33. There you go again---Making ASSumptions.

9. Good for him, bad for rabid Hill supporters

I don't believe they are silly enough to actually be outraged over Wright's words. If we weren't in the middle of this race they wouldn't give a rat's ass about Wright. Matter of fact I'm willing to bet many of them would agree with much of what he said. At this time though they cling to every false scandal like their lives depend on it.

[whatchamacallit]

39. Oh!

Ha, where's my coffee?

[ihavenobias]

2. McCain has no room to talk

as was explained here: http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x5120536

[NYCGirl]

3. Another right wing source dragged over here:

American Thinker (AT) is a conservative daily internet publication. According to it website, American Thinker presents a "thoughtful exploration of issues of importance to Americans." <1>

There is ample evidence to support the notion that AT serves as part of the right wing's echo chamber.

A good example of this can be found in a December 5th, 2007 piece on the National Intelligence Estimate report on the state of Iran's Nuclear weapon's program.<1>

Writer Ed Lasky first refers to an Editorial in the New York Sun inferring that the intelligence community is against President Bush.<2> Lasky concludes that "the National Intelligence Estimate was cooked up by bureaucrats eager to embarrass George Bush and transform US policy towards Iran." To substantiate his argument he goes on to quote an editorial from the Wall Street Journal<3> which avers the authors of the NIE study are: "former State Department officials with previous reputations that should lead one to doubt their conclusions. All three are ex-bureaucrats who, as is generally true of State Department types, favor endless rounds of negotiation and "diplomacy" and oppose confrontation. These three officials, according to the Wall Street Journal, have 'reputations as hyper-partisan anti-Bush officials'." This statement "Hyper-partisan anti-Bush officials", restated as fact in the AT article, is quoted and requoted by rightwing blogs and news sources throughout the media.<4><5><6>

Ultimately this type of statement winds up being echoed by mainstream pundits such as Rush Limbaugh.<7>


http://sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=American_Thinker

[elixir]

12. Obama's website is the source, check out the cache yourself. This is a problem, get used to it.

[EFerrari]

22. American Thinker is not Obama's website. n/t

[rodeodance]

36. Very Rove like--distractions -no substance

[NYCGirl]

40. I agree. Pulling crap from RW websites is very Rovian. You should stop

doing it.

[rodeodance]

69. I was refering to all the distracting posters who have no substance.

[NYCGirl]

74. So you're the post police around here?

How'd you get that job?

[rodeodance]

78. someone has to try to get you Obama folks to focus on SUBSTANCE~

[NYCGirl]

84. When do you guys get your cattle prods from the Clinton campaign? NT

[rodeodance]

85. More obamfolks sinking into the sewer with comments such as that. SHAME ON YOU

When do you guys get your cattle prods from the Clinton campaign? NT

[NYCGirl]

87. You really should be waving some papers in the air while shaming us.

It's much more in character.

[rodeodance]

91. Wave away sweetie

You really should be waving some papers in the air while shaming us.

It's much more in character.

[Nitrogenica]

4. That's what one has to do when they are attacked by FOX news for dumb reasons.

FOX is disgusting, and I hope when we take control of the White house, The Senate, and the House we are more able to expose them for the propaganda outlet that hey are.

[MethuenProgressive]

6. God BLESS America.

'nuf sed.

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[BigDDem]

20. "Stick your magnetic flag sticker up your ass"

The politics of hope and change strike again!! :rofl:

Would you prefer a "USofKKKA" flag?

:rofl:

[Name removed]

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[BigDDem]

32. And I "HOPE!" you will wave your

"USofKKKA" flag proudly!

:hi:

[mrreowwr_kittty]

44. I will.

God Damn Crybaby Phony Patriots of AmeriKKKa.

[rodeodance]

73. "God Damn Crybaby Phony Patriots of AmeriKKKa."--

[MethuenProgressive]

30. What else would an Obama follower say?

It's the expected response.

[leftynyc]

26. Are you making that into a bumper sticker

proclaiming support for Sen Obama? Quite the little uniter, you are.

[MethuenProgressive]

31. It'd sell well on www.buyObamashit.com

[Dinger]

57. LOL

:rofl:

[whatchamacallit]

18. Yeah, we RULE!

Just ask the Third World.

[bridgit]

7. "Truly I say to you that this very night, before a cock crows, you shall deny Me three times."

[rodeodance]

82. too bad he didn't stick with those type comments

[durrrty libby]

8. Wright's own pages got a thorough "white wash" too

:rofl:

[MethuenProgressive]

16. rut roh

(you said 'white wash'! at least the OP didn't say 'black hole'!)
:rofl:

[theredpen]

11. Gee, I thought he should add a big section called "Obama is a scary, angry black man"

:sarcasm:

[durrrty libby]

19. Nah, "Fraud" would cover it.

[theredpen]

34. *PLONK*

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=manage_ignore

[durrrty libby]

47. Yea, Obabies have trouble with the truth

[golddigger]

80. Where the hell did all these Obama Supporters come from?

I thought all us Hillary supporters were on some big ignore list?

:shrug:

[durrrty libby]

89. They came from the Wright Wing of the party?

:shrug:

[MNDemNY]

14. Unfortunately for Obama, that hole ain't deep enough.

[BigDDem]

25. The "Wright is right" crowd must be pissed!!!

I'll be holding my breath waiting for the outrage

:rofl:

[rodeodance]

28. ha ha----yeah--waiting for the outrage!

[BigDDem]

37. It should be coming any time now.....

:rofl:

[uponit7771]

53. Who cares? McCain doesn't care about it why should we?!?!/

[MethuenProgressive]

60. You let McCain decide what you should and should not care about?

What ever works for ya.
Me, I'm a Democrat.

[golddigger]

81. McCain? Hell all he has to do is play nice and let the 527's do his work.

[jody]

62. BO is a political chameleon, adopting whatever camouflage necessary to survive and prey on

unsuspecting targets.

[oasis]

68. He can run,but he can't hide from Rev. Wright's vicious words. (eom)

:hide::yoiks:

[jillan]

86. Interesting how the Obama camp, who has public support from people who preach anti-semitism has

replaced Rev Wright with an Orthodox Jew.

And Obamites say Hillary will do anything to win? :puke:

I am appalled!

[DrFunkenstein]

88. He's Like The Norman Hsu of The Returned Favor Generation

Who was that guy again? I can't seem to find him or Eliot Spitzer on the Clinton website.

[jackson_dem]

90. This is the same guy who scrubbed his website of his "free" trade views before Wisconsin as welll

[maddiejoan]

92. To: Smith

re: Rev Wright


rewrite fullwise upsub antefiling on non-person Rev Wright.