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WillYourVoteBCounted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-17-08 02:31 PM
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Bill and Hillary *EXPLETIVE DELETED* the Democratic Party
Edited on Mon Mar-17-08 02:31 PM by WillYourVoteBCounted
“Historians now have this bit to say: ‘here’s the real pattern of the Clinton life.’

Bill's image damaged by campaign role

By DAVID PAUL KUHN | 3/17/08

Bill Clinton’s reentry into the political arena appears to have come at some cost to his legacy. New polling now suggests that Clinton’s involvement in the Democratic nomination battle between his wife, Hillary Rodham Clinton, and Barack Obama, has significantly tarnished the former president’s image.

A Wall Street Journal/NBC News poll released Thursday found that more Americans view Bill Clinton negatively than positively, 45 to 42 percent.

It marked the first time since January 2002 that a plurality of Americans disapproved of the former president. One month earlier, The Gallup Poll found that nearly as many Americans had an unfavorable as favorable view of Bill Clinton—for the first time in nearly five years.

...His return to elected politics changed all that. In New Hampshire, he referred to Obama’s early opposition to the Iraq war as the “biggest fairy tale I've ever seen,” a remark that would come to be seen by many as an attempt to belittle Obama. He later accused Obama’s staff of voter suppression in Nevada—a sensitive charge in Democratic circles.

Clinton’s low point came in South Carolina, where he drew criticism for comparing Obama’s candidacy to Jesse Jackson, a remark widely viewed as an attempt to pigeonhole Obama as a candidate who appeals largely to black voters.... By Super Tuesday, the former president himself had become part of the story. In the key competitive state of Missouri, 28 percent of Democratic primary voters had a negative view of Clinton, double the amount as in New Hampshire just weeks earlier.

more at the link


HAVE YOU NO SHAME?


Bill Clinton, husband of Hillary(in name only?) made a guest appearance on the Rush Limbaugh show on 3/04/08, the same day as the Texas and Ohio Primaries.

Bill Clinton, husband of democratic Presidential candidate Hillary Clinton - was a guest or Rush Limbaugh, the creatin who mocked Democratic Presidential Candidate Barack Obama as "Barack the Magic Negro".

That Bill (Hillary's husband) was a guest of Rush Limbaugh, who accused the 9/11 widows of being political shills...

Bill, father of Chelsea and husband of Presidential candidate Hillary Clinton - ingratiated himself to Limbaugh - who mocked the Clinton's own daughter, Chelsea saying: "Everyone knows the Clintons have a cat. Socks is the White House cat. But did you know there is a White House dog?" Limbaugh said on TV, before holding up a picture of Chelsea.



WIN AT ANY COST, THWART THE DEMOCRATIC PROCESS?!?



The Clintons were willing beneficiaries of Rush Limbaugh's
"Keep Rushing the Vote! Operation Chaos Continues Democrats have descended into an all-out race war."


Here's a picture posted on Rush's website the day Hillary Clinton's husband (Bill) was the show:

Why We Want to Keep Hillary Alive



The Limbaugh Strategy: Keep the Democrats fighting.

Pimpin' EIB Callers Nervous About
the Voting for Clinton Strategery>



Nervous Dittoheads prepare to cross over for Clinton.


So the Limbaugh/Clinton scam worked and Hillary got a few hundred thousand votes
from republicans who hate her


Many voting for Clinton to boost GOP -Seek to prolong bitter battleScott Helman Globe Staff / March 17, 2008

For a party that loves to hate the Clintons, Republican voters have cast an
awful lot of ballots lately for Senator Hillary Clinton: About 100,000 GOP loyalists voted for her in Ohio,
119,000 in Texas, and about 38,000 in Mississippi, exit polls show.


Now we hear you are looking for a delegate loophole...



A "good conscience" reason for a delegate to switch, Ickes told NEWSWEEK, would be if one candidate—
such as, say, Clinton—was deemed more "electable." If delegates believe she has a better chance in November than Obama,
Ickes said, "you bet" that would be a reason to change their vote. Link



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WillYourVoteBCounted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-17-08 02:44 PM
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2. OMG I am saving your JPG over at the daily news
will add it soon. OMG.
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MonkeyFunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-17-08 02:46 PM
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4. Which freeper gave you that graphic?
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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-17-08 03:12 PM
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34. I held them both in high regard...
until the behavior exhibited in this Campaign. I was perfectly happy being unaware of their achievements in pushing the party to the right. Now it is evident that they care about no one, and nothing but regaining their position of power. It would be one thing if I suspected for a minute it was for some lofty goal, but there is nothing benevolent in their words or actions.
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Tellurian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-17-08 03:54 PM
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WOW... Obama running SO Scared... Obama screwd himself
and now he's trying to make Bill Clinton look bad.. Obama is desperate because Bill has him cornered.

MI and FL will be counted no matter how Obama kicks and screams... they will be counted because PEOPLE'S VOTES are more important than he is! He should have know that before he removed his name from the ballot!
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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-17-08 04:00 PM
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65. yeah right...
That Michigan/Florida thing isn't playing too well is it? Too much information has come out about those who knowingly broke the rules, and were fully aware of the consequences when they did so. Isn't Michigan having a re-vote? Those running scared are the one's with the empty kitchen sink. How's the toilet bowl working out?
December 10, 2007
Third Clinton Volunteer Knew Of Smear E-Mail

A third volunteer for Hillary Clinton's campaign was aware of a propaganda e-mail alleging that Barack Obama is a Muslim who plans on "destroying the U.S. from the inside out."
"Let us all remain alert concerning Obama's expected presidential Candidacy," the email reads. "Please forward to everyone you know. The Muslims have said they Plan on destroying the U.S. from the inside out, what better way to start than at The highest level."


Two Clinton volunteers, Linda Olson and Judy Rose, have already been asked to resign from the campaign for their roles in forwarding the e-mail. The AP reported yesterday that Olson, a volunteer coordinator in Iowa County, sent a version of the e-mail to 11 people, including Ben Young, a regional field director for Chris Dodd's campaign. Young passed it on to the AP.

http://hotlineblog.nationaljournal.com/archives/2007/12/third_clinton_v.html


Kerrey Apologizes to Obama Over Remark
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/wireStory?id=4031436
Kerrey's mention of Obama's middle name and his Muslim roots raised eyebrows because they are also used as part of a smear campaign on the Internet that falsely suggests Obama is a Muslim who wants to bring jihad to the United States. Obama is a Christian.

The Clinton campaign has already fired two volunteer county coordinators in Iowa for forwarding hoax e-mails with the debunked claim. Last week, a national Clinton campaign co-chairman resigned for raising questions about whether Obama's teenage drug use could be used against him, so Kerrey's comments raised questions about whether the Clinton campaign might be using another high-profile surrogate to smear Obama.


Source: Newsday
Posted on Sunday, December 16, 2007 at 12:04 pm
Barack Obama Accepts Apology From Hillary Clinton

Washington D.C. 12/15/2007 09:17 AM GMT (FINDITT)
Hillary Clinton went straight to Barack Obama with an apology following a staffer's remarks about any skeletons that may be lurking in Obama's closet, pointing out that she had accepted the staffer's resignation over the disparaging remarks. Obama accepted her at her word, according to his campaign staff, and is moving on without letting it interrupt his campaign plans.

Obama is currently leading the polls in Iowa and New Hampshire, the two early primary states often considered key to the process, according to numbers at usaelectionpolls.com, but on a national level Clinton still holds a huge lead. The most recently posted poll results show Obama with 31 percent of the probable voters in New Hampshire backing him with 29 percent showing support for Clinton.
http://www.transworldnews.com/NewsStory.aspx?id=30629&cat=5



Hillary: Sorry for Any Offense Campaign (Bill) Has Caused

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FB65wJ6Rcfs


Bill Clinton Asks for a Second Chance
By Liz Halloran
Posted February 11, 2008

The morning after his wife, Hillary, was routed in three state contests by Sen. Barack Obama in their dead-heat battle for the Democratic nomination, former President Bill Clinton made his case for her before a packed Sunday service at one of the largest black churches in Washington, D.C.
But first he offered an apology of sorts for racially tinged comments he made about Obama and his candidacy that have triggered a backlash in the black community and among many other Democrats.

Clinton invoked his "worship of a God of second chances" in pronouncing himself glad to be at the Temple of Praise, which claims nearly 15,000 members. His invocation of second chances echoed comments he made early last week at black churches in California, where he campaigned for his wife before that state's Super Tuesday primary, which she won.

http://www.usnews.com/articles/news/campaign-2008/2008/02/11/bill-clinton-asks-for-a-second-chance.html


Bill Clinton To Apologize At LA Black Churches
Once again, Bill Clinton is ready to repent.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/02/02/bill-clinton-to-apologize_n_84573.html
On Sunday the former president is scheduled to visit black churches in South Central Los Angeles, where he's expected to offer a mea culpa to those who "dearly loved him" when he was their president, Rep. Diane Watson (D-Calif.) says.
Watson, a member of the Congressional Black Caucus who has endorsed Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton (D-N.Y.), tells us she'll usher the former president to more than half a dozen churches in her district where she says he needs to "renew his relationship" with congregants who were turned off by his racially tinged
comments in the days leading up to and following the South Carolina primary. (Such as when Clinton compared Sen. Barack Obama's landslide victory to Jesse Jackson's wins in 1984 and 1988.)



Clinton Camp Pushes O-Bomber Links: Ignores Her Own Radical Ties

By: Justin Rood
ABC News - The Hillary Clinton campaign pushed to reporters today stories about Barack Obama and his ties to former members of a radical domestic terrorist group -- but did not note that as president, Clinton's husband pardoned more than a dozen convicted violent radicals, including a member of the same group mentioned in the Obama stories.

"Wonder what the Republicans will do with this issue," mused Clinton spokesman Phil Singer in one e-mail to the media, containing a New York Sun article reporting a $200 contribution from William Ayers, a founding member of the 1970s group Weather Underground, to Obama in 2001.

In a separate e-mail, Singer forwarded an article from the Politico newspaper reporting on a 1995 event at a private home that brought Obama together with Ayers and Bernardine Dohrn, another member of the radical group.

http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/story?id=4330128&page=1



January 6, 2008, 5:18 pm
Edwards: No Conscience in Clinton Campaign
http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/01/06/edwards-no-conscience-in-clinton-campaign/
By Julie Bosman
KEENE, N.H. – John Edwards angrily took on Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton at two news conferences in a row on Sunday, saying that her campaign “doesn’t seem to have a conscience.”



COMPTON, Calif. (AP) — Hillary Rodham Clinton and her campaign tried to mend ties to black voters Thursday when a key supporter apologized to her chief rival, Barack Obama, for comments that hinted at Obama's drug use as a teenager. The candidate herself, meanwhile, praised the Rev. Martin Luther King and promised to assist with the rebirth of this troubled, largely black city.

Bob Johnson, the founder of Black Entertainment Television, apologized
for comments he made at a Clinton campaign rally in South Carolina on Sunday that hinted at Obama's use of drugs as a teenager.
http://www.usatoday.com/news/politics/election2008/2008-01-17-johnson-apology_N.htm?csp=34


Clinton Surrogate Compares Obama Ad to Nazi March

http://news.yahoo.com/s/thenation/20080201/cm_thenation/45278988_1
Fri Feb 1, 2:23 PM ET
The Nation -- On a media conference call organized by the Hillary Clinton campaign today, Clinton surrogate Len Nichols compared an Obama health care ad to Nazis.
----------
Accusing political opponents of Nazism is an outrageous smear. Raising the specter of a Nazi march in response to a health care mailer that evokes the insurance industry is so absurd, it would be hard to take the attack seriously, were it not launched from a high profile national campaign conference call in this crucial stretch of the presidential race. And political observers know, of course, that the Clinton Campaign regularly arranges opportunities for surrogates to launch these kind of smears, which are later followed up with apologies. (See: Bob Johnson, Bill Shaheen, Bob Kerrey, and Francine Torge, to name the most recent offenders.) For his part, Nichols did not immediately return a call requesting further comment.
-------------------------
Len Nichols, Director of New America's Health Policy Program, stated, "For nearly 17 years I have worked tirelessly to reform our nation's struggling health system. Today my passion overwhelmed me. I chose an analogy that was wholly inappropriate. I am deeply sorry for any offense that my unfortunate comments may have caused.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dk1k0nUWEQg
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Tellurian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-17-08 07:17 PM
Response to Reply #65
87. You ought to eat this SPAM rather than posting it..
IOW... You haven't made your case!
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WillYourVoteBCounted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-17-08 08:05 PM
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88. do you deny that Bill Clinton went on the Rush Limbaugh show?
do you refute what Rush Limbaugh has posted on his website?
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Tellurian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-17-08 10:39 PM
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91. I wouldn't know. I don't patronize Limbaugh's site.
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Blue-Jay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-17-08 02:45 PM
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3. "fucked"?
You can say "fucked" on DU if you want.
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tandem5 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-17-08 02:50 PM
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11. sure, but can you say, "weenie mcbeanie has a teeny-tiny martini"?
Edited on Mon Mar-17-08 02:50 PM by tandem5
threes times fast? GO!
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Blue-Jay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-17-08 02:51 PM
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13. ALERTED!
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tandem5 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-17-08 03:01 PM
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29. AH Fudgesicles!
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Blue-Jay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-17-08 03:02 PM
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30. :)
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jillan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-17-08 02:47 PM
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5. This is still Democratic Underground, isn't it? When I saw this I thought I logged onto Freeperland
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WillYourVoteBCounted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-17-08 02:48 PM
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7. its creepy how Bill and HIllary have bonded with Limbaugh and Murdock
and Hillary has borrowed the entire Karl Rove playbook.
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jillan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-17-08 02:54 PM
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22. YOU are the creep - goodbye!
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elixir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-17-08 03:27 PM
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44. It's kind of creepy that you feel the need to post this. Clearly you think the Clintons are
responsible for the worlds ills. Sad.
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catgirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-17-08 05:15 PM
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84. And it's creepy how Clinton praised McCain's "experience" (nt)
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WillYourVoteBCounted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-17-08 08:35 PM
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89. did Bill go on Limbaugh's show or not? Didn't Limbaugh call Chelsea the family dog?
besides not liking the ugly facts presented in the OP, which of them
are not true?
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-17-08 03:55 PM
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62. ha ha ---its obama folks here on DU that quote Rove playbook. live with it.
and Hillary has borrowed the entire Karl Rove playbook.
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Carolina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-17-08 04:27 PM
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77. absolutely, creepy is putting it mildly
I think it's despicable. They have bonded with enemies (of Democrats) to thwart the will of the majority of the voters.

Slime
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-17-08 02:55 PM
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25. Hey, maybe you can pipe up in some of the newsmax threads.
Seeing as though you're so fucking concerned over DU's integrity. :eyes:
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elixir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-17-08 03:27 PM
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45. Once again I must remind you that the NewsMax story has been corroborated by several sources.
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-17-08 03:48 PM
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60. Once again, I'll point out that Newsmax spin is their own, and you suckers fell for it.
Loser.
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Texas Hill Country Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-17-08 04:19 PM
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75. read ABC, CNN, WSJ... says nothing different than original story from Newsmax...
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catgirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-17-08 05:17 PM
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85. Bull shit. The story was bogus and it has been pointed out.

And you know it. That's creepy.
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Window Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-17-08 05:01 PM
Response to Reply #45
83. Bullshit.
It's been totally blown apart.
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-17-08 02:47 PM
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6. His Image Has Been Tarnished By The Ways The Shameful Media And Obama Camp Spun All The Incidents.
I was quite disheartened at the start of this all in the ways the media and the Obama camp went for his throat. He hasn't been able to rebound since.
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WillYourVoteBCounted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-17-08 02:49 PM
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9. the truth hurts - Bill went on Limbaugh Radio Show, Murdock raised money for HIllary
how much worse can it get -

oh thats right, Billary is trying to figure out how to game the system
since they are behind in every way.
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-17-08 02:52 PM
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16. You Tell Me. I Spoke The Truth, And It Is Quite Obvious As Well.
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Blue-Jay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-17-08 02:53 PM
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19. If you say it, it HAS to be the truth.
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-17-08 02:54 PM
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23. 99.9% Of The Time? Absolutely.
But I'm not perfect. There will always be a rare case or two in which I'm wrong.

Not this time though. Deal with it. :hi:
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WillYourVoteBCounted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-17-08 02:55 PM
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24. Rush Limbaugh - telling Dittoheads to vote for Hillary:
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-17-08 02:57 PM
Response to Reply #24
26. Your Point?
Who cares. Obama's got plenty voting for him as well.

What does matter, is that as it stands right now, at this very moment, MORE Democrats support Hillary than do Obama, by an 8% margin. Want that again? MORE Democrats support Hillary than Obama.

How bout you choke that down for a while pal LOL. :hi:
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catgirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-17-08 05:18 PM
Response to Reply #24
86. This thread is full of trolls

They're mission here is to keep the civil war going.
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Blue-Jay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-17-08 03:00 PM
Response to Reply #23
28. Oh, I get it.
Odd Posting Affectations Are To Be Feared And Trusted. If I Say Something Hard Enough, It Must Be A Fact.
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-17-08 03:09 PM
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32. Nope. To Be Able To Speak Fact, One Must First Now What The Heck They're Talking About.
It's really easy to do. Feel free to give it a try sometime. :hi:
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Blue-Jay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-17-08 03:17 PM
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38. OK. Bring the facts.
"His Image Has Been Tarnished By The Ways The Shameful Media And Obama Camp Spun All The Incidents."

Is that a fact? Do tell.

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OPERATIONMINDCRIME Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-17-08 03:22 PM
Response to Reply #38
40. Already Did. That Statement Is A Fact. Deal With It.
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Blue-Jay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-17-08 03:31 PM
Response to Reply #40
50. No. It's an opinion, unless you can prove it.
Do you know the definition of the word "fact"?

(For those of you keeping score, OMC just used up his 0.01% of non-factual statements for the month)
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-17-08 03:57 PM
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63. Oh You Silly Little Lad,
Facts do not revolve around you, and therefore do not require your approval nor belief in order for them to stand as fact.

But that's oh so cute how you give yourself that much credit. Adorable in fact!
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Blue-Jay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-17-08 04:06 PM
Response to Reply #63
67. You just won the internet!
You are the first person EVER who (when backed into a corner) resorted to making a shitty, condescending post!

Congrats, OMC! Winner Winner Chicken Dinner!

:woohoo:
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-17-08 04:11 PM
Response to Reply #67
68. Ahhhhhhhh, Just As Suspected. My Logic Overpowered Yours And Cut You,
so all you were left with now is this inane silly little babble.

You really are quite bad at this. Defaulting to replies that abandon logic completely so quickly, after realizing that you didn't have what it takes to overcome mine. How sad for you.

It's ok though. Maybe we'll play some more another day when you have a bit more to bring to the table ok? Ta ta for now! :hi:
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Blue-Jay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-17-08 04:16 PM
Response to Reply #68
71. LOL.
Any other old-ass internet insults you'd like to post? Maybe you can say that I'm in my mom's basement or something. That would be some A-List, cutting edge material!

PS - You still haven't posted a single fact on this thread, but it was nice how you changed the subject when called on it.

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Moochy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-17-08 10:43 PM
Response to Reply #71
92. Handy Chart
Edited on Mon Mar-17-08 10:44 PM by Moochy
Random OMC Response Generator

1) You need to grow up!
2) :rofl: x 20
3) Anyone Who Thinks Differently Is An Asshole, And That's A Non-Disptuable Fact!
4) Now Answer My OP in Context!
5) Random Mis Capitalized Shouty Words Strung Along To Make Me Feel Intellectually Superior.
6) Squawk! IWR!
7) Both of Our Candidates Are Peachy And Even Though I Secretly Hate Obama, I Will Gladly Vote For Him and His Unpatriotic Wife!
8) I Know I'm Right And Anyone Who Disagrees Is Obviously Off Their Meds!
9) I have pictures, I'm untouchable!!!
10) (In response to some suck up encouraging his drivel)
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-17-08 04:14 PM
Response to Reply #50
69. Don't bother
I've had this conversation with OMC before. He actually believes that his opinions are fact. It's rather pathetic.
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Blue-Jay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-17-08 04:19 PM
Response to Reply #69
74. I know, but he's sorta fun.
:D
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-17-08 03:32 PM
Response to Reply #40
51. they are upset that obama's favorability rating has taken a NOSEDIVE--see this:

from: http://rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/election_20082/2008_presidential_election/daily_presidential_tracking_poll


snip

The dialogue about Wright’s controversial comments appears to have had at least a short-term impact on public perceptions of Barack Obama. The Illinois Senator is viewed favorably today by just 47% of voters nationwide. That’s down five points since last Thursday (see recent daily results). The number with an unfavorable view of Obama has risen from 44% on Thursday to 50% today. Among White voters, Obama is now viewed favorably by 43% and unfavorably by 54%.

Looked at from a slightly longer perspective, Obama’s overall favorable ratings peaked at 56% on February 21, shortly after he won the Wisconsin Primary. At that point, Clinton began raising questions about Obama as part of the campaign that ultimately enabled her to win the Texas and Ohio Primaries. Since then, Obama’s net favorability ratings have fallen seventeen points (from plus 14 points on February 21 to minus 3 points today).

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Blue-Jay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-17-08 03:37 PM
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53. "they"?
Who is "they"?
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-17-08 03:43 PM
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57. anyone who is upset
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Blue-Jay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-17-08 03:45 PM
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59. My stomach is upset.
Too much coffee, I think.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-17-08 03:59 PM
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64. ah. hope you feel better.
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Blue-Jay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-17-08 04:26 PM
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76. I'm going to top it off with some veggie chili tonight.
I don't think that's going to help.
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Maribelle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-17-08 03:40 PM
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54. This is pure and unadulterated flame-bait
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-17-08 03:43 PM
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Blue-Jay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-17-08 02:49 PM
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10. Yeah. It's Obama's fault.
He might have given me the clap, too.
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WillYourVoteBCounted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-17-08 02:52 PM
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17. plop
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jillan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-17-08 02:48 PM
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8. And why is okay for Obama to go on Fox News, but not Hillary?
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WillYourVoteBCounted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-17-08 02:50 PM
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12. he went there to answer questions, was interrogated like a dog
he had to counter the smear job that DLC candidate Billary was putting forth,
along with her friends on the right.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-17-08 03:22 PM
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41. he went there for DAMAGE CONTROL AND did poorly.
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Johnny__Motown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-17-08 02:51 PM
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15. Because she praises McCain
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Nederland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-17-08 02:52 PM
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18. Fox news is not Limbaugh
Yes, it's a right wing channel, but it's not Limbaugh.
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1776Forever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-17-08 02:51 PM
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14. You have got to be kidding - Didn't know Bill was on Rush - OMG!
Edited on Mon Mar-17-08 03:01 PM by 1776Forever
Bill should have someone tell him Shame on you!!

Check this out - Rush is tearing Obmama down everyday but we can't let him get to us!

On Rush Limbaugh:

http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/home/daily/site_030308/content/01125108.guest.html

The bottom line of all of this: "f Team Obama is capable of screwing up relations with the country most similar to us, the country that knows us best, and that has the biggest stake in the health of our economy and continuing American good will, imagine what kind of havoc would be created when dealing with the likes of the Russians, the , the Syrians, or the Palestinians." By the way, Obama knows he's going to get a pass on this, even though Nedra Pickler has weighed in on it. I'm starting to hear things from people that I heard back in 1992 during that presidential campaign. "How come none of this stuff is sticking? Why isn't it sticking, Rush? This is big stuff." It's not sticking 'cause it doesn't matter to his supporters. It doesn't matter to his followers, not yet. It doesn't matter to his faithful. It's going to matter to a lot of people, but right now these people you see at the rallies are unaffected by this. We gotta keep chipping away at this stuff, but it's gotta be done the right way. It can't be overdone, can't wear people out with it.

.............

Get this Rush - we are not going to be fooled by you or anyone else! We have been through this before and we know what you Repub's are capable of doing and saying!

:mad:
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WillYourVoteBCounted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-17-08 02:53 PM
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21. Screen Shot of 3/4/08 Limbaugh Show with Bill Clinton Guest
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1776Forever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-17-08 02:59 PM
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27. I believe you - I just am amazed Bill would do that & right before the primaries in OH & TX
Idiocy!!!!!
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me b zola Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-17-08 03:15 PM
Response to Reply #21
36. Ya know, Bill going on Rush's show was bad enough
...but to see that screen shot complete with the ad for 'Club GITMO' underneath Hillary's logo is enough to make me physically ill.

That is a very strong image.
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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-17-08 02:53 PM
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20. what you will hear is that when Bill Clinton left office he was extremely popular
but that is a distortion. Even in spite of the terrible campaign Gore ran, and Nader's influence, if Bill Clinton was so damned popular, the 2000 election would NEVER have been that close, and we would NOT have lost Congress.

The truth is, most of the independents were glad to see the Clinton's leave along with their scandal.

If she gets the nomination, they will realize just how much animosity still exists, whether justified or not, against the Clintons


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NastyRiffraff Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-17-08 03:08 PM
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31. It's official. Freeperville is here.
Dripping hate, and dishonesty.
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WillYourVoteBCounted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-17-08 03:11 PM
Response to Reply #31
33. everything in the OP is Bill and HIllary's - HE went on Limbaugh Show, She benefited from Freepers
but you can repeat the same denial over and over.

The rest of the democratic party gets it - even if you and Hillary don't.
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golddigger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-17-08 03:15 PM
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35. Pathetic post, your candidate is going down thanks to McClurkin, Wright and Rezko.
LOL
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WillYourVoteBCounted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-17-08 03:29 PM
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48. "The Limbaugh WInd Behind Senator Clinton's Back"

Mississippi: 'Limbaugh Effect' Softens Blow For Hillary Clinton

Posted March 12, 2008 John K. Wilson

Hillary Clinton suffered a huge defeat last night in Mississippi, and now faces an insurmountable pledged delegate lead by Barack Obama. But what most pundits missed was the fact that Obama's victory would have been even more overwhelming in Mississippi (and he might have won the popular vote in Texas) if not for the "Limbaugh effect": Republicans voting in the Democratic primary in order to undermine Barack Obama and help John McCain.

Approximately 25% of Clinton's voters in Mississippi were Republicans voting for a candidate they hate in order to try to undermine Barack Obama.

Obama's 61-37 margin of victory in Mississippi would have been around 70-30 without Clinton's Republican voters, and Obama would have easily expanded his delegate win there from 19-14 to 24-9.



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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-17-08 03:23 PM
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43. You folks are still obsessed over Bill's penis
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-17-08 03:30 PM
Response to Reply #33
49. ha ha --another phony OUTRAGE BY SOME OBAMA FANS. TE HE
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-17-08 03:44 PM
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58. ah OUTRAGE--
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DiverDave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-17-08 03:16 PM
Response to Reply #31
37. Dishonesty?
Did he go on that asswipes show?...yes or no?
Has she taken money from murdoch?

I guess if YOU call it dishonest, it MUST BE...sheesh...


Yeah, it is freeperville, the FACTS dont matter anymore.
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me b zola Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-17-08 03:23 PM
Response to Reply #31
42. Well, you're kind of right
Freeperville is here posting crap from Newsmax, but that hate & dishonesty was posted by someone who claims to be a Hillary supporter:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x5123227
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-17-08 03:21 PM
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39. The electabilty issue is a myth for BO after Pastorgate.
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rug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-17-08 03:28 PM
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46. Crap. I should have voted for Bob Dole.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-17-08 03:28 PM
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47. who cares about BILL---LOOK HERE**** obama favoribility rating is SINKING


from: http://rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/election_20082/2008_presidential_election/daily_presidential_tracking_poll


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The dialogue about Wright’s controversial comments appears to have had at least a short-term impact on public perceptions of Barack Obama. The Illinois Senator is viewed favorably today by just 47% of voters nationwide. That’s down five points since last Thursday (see recent daily results). The number with an unfavorable view of Obama has risen from 44% on Thursday to 50% today. Among White voters, Obama is now viewed favorably by 43% and unfavorably by 54%.

Looked at from a slightly longer perspective, Obama’s overall favorable ratings peaked at 56% on February 21, shortly after he won the Wisconsin Primary. At that point, Clinton began raising questions about Obama as part of the campaign that ultimately enabled her to win the Texas and Ohio Primaries. Since then, Obama’s net favorability ratings have fallen seventeen points (from plus 14 points on February 21 to minus 3 points today).

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democracy1st Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-17-08 03:33 PM
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52. K&R
Yes We Can, To hell with the Clintons and the DLC
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Beacool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-17-08 03:41 PM
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55. Oh, cry me a river!!!!!!!!!!
Poor little Obama, the mean Clintons are after him!!! Bullshit!!! The race card reared its ugly head and it was used against both Clintons.

Obama had been given a free ride by the media until now. Let's se how well he copes with all the Rezko dirt and the comments made by his charming pastor.

If he thinks that the Clintons have played dirty, wait until he gets into the GE. Then he'll get to know what it really feels to be attacked by the opposition. The Repugs are going to try to eviscerate him.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-17-08 03:54 PM
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61. Ha ha--they will be kept REAL busy!! you are right ON> ha ha
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Catherina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-17-08 04:06 PM
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66. The nicest thing about winning these primaries will be
NEVER HAVING TO SEE THOSE SNIVELLING, BACK-STABBING, MENDACIOUS CLINTONS AGAIN.
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bobthedrummer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-17-08 04:15 PM
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70. "Inconvenient truths about the New Democrats, the Third Way, Democratic Leadership Council, etc."
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Catherine Vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-17-08 04:17 PM
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72. hiding divisive thread....
Edited on Mon Mar-17-08 04:18 PM by cat_girl25
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Texas Hill Country Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-17-08 04:19 PM
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73. I like your SN... so how do you feel about the re-votes and having those votes counted?
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golddigger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-17-08 04:39 PM
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78. I will answer that for you THC. If it is in favor for Obama he's all for it.
Edited on Mon Mar-17-08 04:40 PM by golddigger
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Texas Hill Country Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-17-08 04:54 PM
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81. thought so.
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GeorgeGist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-17-08 04:46 PM
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79. More mythical mugging by the Obamatrons.
Bill denies he ever had sex with that woman.
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Perry Logan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-17-08 04:51 PM
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80. There is no doubt in my mind that the Clintophobes are destroying the Party.
Edited on Mon Mar-17-08 04:53 PM by Perry Logan
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Window Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-17-08 04:56 PM
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82. K/R.
:kick:
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SaveAmerica Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-17-08 09:28 PM
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90. Why in the world did Bill Clinton go on the Rush Limbaugh show?
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