Tweety's Baiter Splitter Lies for 3-17-2008: He Attacks CATHOLICS on St. Patricks Day

[McCamy Taylor]

Yep, Irish-American Catholic Chris Matthews and Pat Buchanan attacked members of their own religion tonight on Hardball in an attempt to foment more tension between members of the Democratic Party. After mentioning that Catholics tend to vote for Hillary (which, on Hardball at the moment makes then the equivalent of reds before a McCarthy hearing) Tweety and Buchanan concluded that this must really mean that only old fart Catholics are voting for Hillary (even though they cite no polls to prove their claims). They then go on to characterize Catholics as working class, conservative and do everything but call them racists rednecks.

Oh my. And these guys are both Catholic. What would their priests say?

What Chris Matthews has refused to do ever since the night of the New Hampshire primary is acknowledge something that he and I and Buchanan and every other Irish-American knows. There really is an Irish-American Matriarchy. In Irish-American families, women are strong. They have careers. Women make decisions in the Irish families. And the members of this culture like women politicians. This is why Hillary won New Hampshire, which had a large Irish American population that Iowa. I recognized this even before the reports came out showing that women had given Hillary her win in New Hampshire. I knew that she would do well with Catholics for this reason.

But that would not help the RNC stir up trouble within the ranks of the Democratic Party. So, Matthews would rather malign his own Catholic brothers and sisters, imply that they are racists, than admit that they are actually less sexist than the average American.

Bonus points to Tweety, Fineman and Andrea Mitchell for promoting the Big Lie that Obama has "won" the delegate count. He can not. No one can win the delegate count, because the RNC made Florida vote early. That is what the Superdelegates are for. Once again, these three Republican media whores claimed that Superdelegates are not fair, even though they are written into the rules as a way to solve problems like the one we have now (because of Rove and the RNC). This is more splitter/baiter crap for the Republicans designed to get Democrats more angry at each other than they are at McCain so that when Rove sends outside agitators into our Denver convention to start riots, it will look plausible. So that the press will have another Chicago 1968 to cover.

The last people I want to see criticizing the Democratic Party's method of choosing nominees are Chris Matthews, Howard Fineman and Andrea Mitchell who work for GE and are Iraq War mongers. Let them comment on their own Party's method of choosing nominees and leave our party alone.

[LisaM]

1. A little off your topic, but I remember years ago Leno had Jane Seymour on on St. Pat's day

and she made a crack about the Irish.

That was the end of Leno for me; you don't book guests from England (especially those who steal names from English queens!) on St. Patrick's Day! You just don't. I was proud to be able to boo her in person a few years later at a hockey game in Vancouver, BC (I got a few weird looks from people, but who cares?)


Proud Catholic for Clinton here.

[11 Bravo]

2. Fine, but how do we blame Senator Obama or Senator Clinton for this?

This is GD: Primaries ... someone MUST be slimed!

[McCamy Taylor]

4. rofl

:rofl:

[high density]

3. Winner is the one with more delegates.

Duh.

[McCamy Taylor]

5. I believe the winner has to reach a delegate threshhold. Not just have "more"

If KO really wanted to help the Democratic Party---instead of maybe improving his image after he damaged it with his vendetta against Barry Bonds---he could ask Howard Dean on his show to explain exactly how the Democratic Primary process works. We have GOPers all over the news media telling us how the Dempcratic Primary works, trying to scare us with misinformation. It would be helpful to have the man in charge give us the real facts.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democratic_Party_(United_States)_presidential_primaries,_2008

Wiki says that to "win" outright a candidate needs 2024 delegate votes. Thanks to GOP meddling with Florida, neither candidate can get this many. One of the things the Superdelegates will have to do is decide how to make up for the missing Florida Democratic votes (which are missing through no fault of the Florida Democratic voters) in a way that placates Florida Democrats so that they do not punish the Democratic nominee in the fall.

Superdelegates were created after 1972 to keep the Party from nominating another unelectable like McGovern. For instance, if a candidate wins but before the convention has a major scandal and will not drop out, the Superdelegates can force that candidate out for the good of the party. Of, they can solve a three way tie. Or, they can solve the current situation where no one gets enough to be declared a winner.

Neither Hillary nor Obama can win It is a lie to say that his simple majority is a win by the rules. The rules say that 2024 is a win. Anything else the Superdelegates decide. They take into account who has the most delegates, but if one has 1700 and one has 1701, they will factor in other things.

You do not see people like Tweety ever discuss the fact that the Obama camp is making up new rules, when they complain that Hillary is trying to "change" the rules. If fact, it is the RNC that made the mess in the first place.

And guess who is responsible for Obama not being on the Mich. ballot? Obama. It was a dirty trick to help him win votes in Iowa. No wonder he does not want a vote in Mich.

http://iowaindependent.com/showDiary.do?diaryId=1264

Iowans are by and large straightforward people. Given that, it should come as no surprise that to the average Iowan, the Michigan ballot situation seems pretty cut and dried: Democratic presidential hopefuls who honor their four-state pledge and support the nomination calendar won't be on the Wolverine State's ballot. As with most things in life, and especially politics, the situation is more complicated.

Five individuals connected to five different campaigns have confirmed -- but only under condition of anonymity -- that the situation that developed in connection with the Michigan ballot is not at all as it appears on the surface. The campaign for Illinois Sen. Barack Obama, arguably fearing a poor showing in Michigan, reached out to the others with a desire of leaving New York Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton as the only candidate on the ballot. The hope was that such a move would provide one more political obstacle for the Clinton campaign to overcome in Iowa.

[TacticalPeek]

6. Sometimes when watching Chris Matthews Andrea Mitchell and Howard Fineman I forget that I'm watching

three rich Republican fucks.

[bunnies]

7. Christ.

Now I know Political Correctness has gone too far. Get a clue. Hillary won NH because she was weepy eyed and women are suckers. It had NOTHING to do with catholic Irish women in NH. lol. Have you ever been to NH? Id guess no. We're not an Irish Catholic state. In fact, we care less about religion second only to VT.