I Canvassed A Targeted Group Of Independent Voters In PA Today & Found Two Kinds Of People...

[JimGinPA]

People who were leaning democratic that liked Obama (I re-registerred quite a few of them as democrats) and people who were leaning republican that absolutely hated Hillary. I know the 100 or so houses I visited is a very small sample size, but I was a little surprised I didn't talk to even one person who liked Hillary.

[stop the bleeding]

1. Interesting

I would be curious to see what others in PA say that have done this.

[CitizenLeft]

2. where in PA?

Curious as to where, considering all the talk about the regions... :hi:

[JimGinPA]

8. Lancaster County, South Central PA...

One of the reddest counties in the state. I think the democrats will split fairly evenly (maybe a slight edge to Obama) but the new voters & indepedents that are going democrat are trending strongly Obama.

[CitizenLeft]

29. ...and that was today, after 4 days of this "controversy"...?

Great! Thank you... I do feel better.

I'm thinking... those who weren't going to vote for him, will grasp any excuse not to do so.

[Tarheel_Dem]

3. Not surprising, I'm finding the same thing here in central N.C.,

they absolutely despise her, and most see her as an opportunist who will do or say anything to get elected. And if the polls are to be believed, people have a problem with her "honesty", or lack thereof.

[Cha]

11. It's heartwarming to learn that

Americans..the ones you two talked to, anyway, do not buy into hilary's wheelin' and dealin' as fast as her head can spin.

There's a couple of dyed in the wool feminists around here that are spinning for hilary no matter what she does.

[Tarheel_Dem]

19. Amen.....nt

[napi21]

4. What part of Pa. were you canvassing? Igrew up in Pgh. and

there are specific parts of Pgh. that are Pub, others are strong Dem.

[JimGinPA]

12. Se # 8

[napi21]

24. I don't know a lot about the SE part of PA, but there are a lot of people in Western Pa. that are

really strong Hillary supporters. If you would go to Central Pa. you'd find ONLY McBush people.

[Dancing_Dave]

5. Yet lots of them will vote for Hillary!

In the primaries, so they feel secure they have a Democrat they can beat in the general election!

Rush called for it on right wing radio, and there's been a flood of Repukes voting for Hillary in Democratic primaries so they can have the satisfaction of voting against her in general election. A Republican victory over Hillary would be the happiest day of their life, whatever they may think about McCain.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

7. In the primaries, so they feel secure they have a Democrat they can beat in the general election!

"More tears are shed over answered prayers than unanswered ones", ergo:


http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2008/president/us/general_election_mccain_vs_clinton-224.html

[Indiana_Dem]

6. You'll find the same thing in Indiana. I swear. I've done it. nt

[Cha]

16. Indiana

Bama

[Auntie Bush]

9. You must have canvased in a Yuppie neighborhood.

Next time go to a working class neighborhood and you may see a difference.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

13. I Am A Clinton Supporter But I Spend Most Of My Time Defending Obama From Unfair Attacks Here In

Central Florida but I don't start threads about my random encounters...

[Indiana_Dem]

28. Speaking of Florida, I bet you're right--

I had a friend who just got back from Florida on vacation and she said the people she spent time with kept saying Obama was a Muslim!! She said it just made her laugh because they were so serious about it! ...and my friend is a Republican! She actually favors Obama over McCain. Her husband won't let me get a word in edgewise about Hillary except that I tell him that if Obama doesn't win I will still vote for Hillary because I don't want anymore Republicans in the WH! Then he starts hitting me with the anti-Hillary crap again!

[JimGinPA]

18. No, It Was A Working Class Neighborhood...

:shrug:

[thoughtcrime1984]

30. I'm in a working class neighborhood, I am working class

I work in a union shop with dozens of known Obama supporters. I will admit I know of 3 Hillary supporters, though.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

10. These "Nobody's Voting For Hillary" Had More Resonance Some 13,300,000 Votes Ago

Just sayin...

[dailykoff]

14. Voting machines and tabulators like Hillary.

And so do the people who control them.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

20. In My Best Travis Bickle Voice "Are You Talking To Me"

~

[Auntie Bush]

35. What are you talking about?

Then how come the majority of machines gave Obama the vote?

[nonconformist]

36. No, no... see, it's only cheating when it's Hillary's votes

Obama's votes are valid, of course.

And when Republicans vote for Obama, it's because they had an epiphany due to his mad speechifying skillz and are now on board with Democratic ideas... but when Republicans vote for Hillary, it's just to mess with our process.

I've learned these things right here on DU.

[JimGinPA]

38. Does It Sound Reasonable To You That Repubs Who Won't Get Behind McSame...

May still not want the Clintons back in the White House?

[nonconformist]

39. I think the majority of Republican voters voting for either of our candidates are

full of shit, frankly.

I for one refuse to count on these Republican cross-over voters to be around for either of our candidates in the GE.

[JVS]

15. She's a uniter.

[WinkyDink]

17. I've seen only one yard sign where I live, and it is for HRC. Lehigh Valley.

[JimGinPA]

21. I've Only Seen One Yard Sign In My Town - Ron Paul - It's Been Up For Months

:wow:

[Indiana_Dem]

26. HAHA! THose have been the only yard signs I've seen around here, too!

Someone on a nearby highway has one of the largest signs I've ever seen for a candidate and it is for Ron Paul! lol

[IowaGuy]

25. Here in Iowa; HRC easily won the sign war....

but then she finished in 3rd.....

(Maybe a ground game is more important than appearances sometimes....)

[appleannie1]

22. I live in NW PA and have seen the same thing. Your post

does not surprise me.

[enough]

23. Jim, this is very interesting. I live in western Chester County (just east of where you are).

In PA, it's common to change your registration often, because local office holders are so often determined in the primary. I know MANY life-long democrats who are registered R because that's the only way to have any effect on local elections. Then you have to change your reg back to D if a significant D primary comes along. This sort of registration-switch can be mis-interpreted by outsiders as some kind of strategy by Republicans.

The people who mystify me are those who feel some kind of pride in being "independent," which in PA just means that you are cutting off your own ability to effect local elections when it counts.

What I'm wondering is whether you had any luck in moving those people who were "leaning republican" to go ahead and register D for the primary?

[JimGinPA]

27. So Far I've Only Been To F&M To Register New Voters & The Independents Today...

I only had one college student register repub., but nearly every student that I met that were either already registerred or that we signed up were strong Obama supporters. None of the repub. leaners I met today re-registerred. Also, more than half of the indys I spoke to today weren't interested in voting in the primary.

[zulchzulu]

31. Cool! K&R

Let me know if you want more Obama merch...

[Kurt_and_Hunter]

32. Sounds like everyone found a way to be agreeable with you within their available attitudes

Not being a total asshole, if an Obama supporter came to my door I would say, "Yeah, good for you. Gobama... I'm sold, so don't let me take your time from other voters."

Then, having cut the encounter down to the minimum time and made another human being feel better, rather than worse, I would get back to my business.

Harmless white lie... I don't hate Obama or anything.

[JimGinPA]

34. Well, I Was Working With A List Of Only Independents - They Had To Change To Vote In The Primary...

So everyone that switched had to fill out a new registration.

[wiggs]

33. Almost all dems I know are leaning Obama or solidly behind Obama. I don't

know who's voting for Hillary.

[roguevalley]

37. everyone I know in my red state part of Alaska is for Obama but

my repug brothers. the idiots. :)