For those trying to bring down our likely nominee because of comments made by his pastor...

[usregimechange]

If during your dirty work you:

1). Align with the enemies of the progressive movement.
2). Quote, read, use, or distribute bullshit right wing lies and distortions (Newsmax, Worldnetdaily, or Hannity).
3). Say any damn thing to win.
4). Brag about our potential and likely nominee being hurt politically.
5). Pretend that a nominee must only associate with people who agree with him, like
6). Kerry attending a church where abortion is viewed as a sin and being pro-choice.
7). as if pastor Wright has not earned the right to be pissed off.

... if you want a civil war, if winning means that much to you, if you would do anything to win, and would follow that to its rational conclusion of doing anything to maintain power, you belong in a different party.

[New Dawn]

1. The DLC doesn't care about winning in November, they just want to control the party.

[Breeze54]

3. That's the GOP's aim, as well.

Drudge, Faux and Rove have been very busy these last few weeks and here at DU too.

[me b zola]

5. You coud call it a(n attempted) coup. I do.

But eff that. They can't have the Democratic Party, it belongs to the people.

[TahitiNut]

18. You got it.

The corporatists "win" no matter what ... it's a scorched earth strategy combined with "Blue Dog Extortion."

[Swamp Rat]

21. The DLC = PNAC.... Created to destroy the Democratic Party from within.

[dkf]

40. As does Hillary.

[David Dunham]

2. After Rev Wright's comments, I doubt Obama's going to be the nominee

The rasmussenreports.com poll shows US voters are very unhappy about Rev Wright's comments

[Breeze54]

4. You and RW Rasmussen are idiots.

:eyes:

[David Dunham]

6. Watch the Obama slippage that will occur in other polls over the next two weeks

[Yes We Did]

8. It's a good thing there is 5 weeks to do damage control then.

Obama will be fine. Bank on it.

[usregimechange]

22. I can't believe this story has reached the level where "damage control" would even be necessary!

MSM invention...

[Breeze54]

11. Please..... stop with your uneducated "predictions"

:eyes:

[sudopod]

23. No doubt you thought

Senator Clinton would win Mississippi too.

OH U

[usregimechange]

27. That was who said that...

:rofl:

[usregimechange]

7. Good, they won't be voting for Rev Wright.

[casus belli]

41. Apparently, most people disagree with you...

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=5132021&mesg_id=5133611

[woodsprite]

44. Then I agree - We shouldn't elect Rev. Wright! Oh, he's not on the ticket? n/t

[The_Casual_Observer]

9. Why are Obama's problems always somebody else's fault?

[usregimechange]

12. They are not Obama's problems, they the MSM and the idiots who listen like sheep

[The_Casual_Observer]

15. Who's the sheep with all those Obama pictures?

[Breeze54]

14. Why are you so gullible to fall for RW spin?

:shrug:

[The_Casual_Observer]

17. Always somebody doing in poor infallable Obama.

[Breeze54]

24. But he hasn't been done in. Is that wishful thinking on your part?

:shrug:

You sound like a repuke neighbor i used to have. he believed everything the RW spin machine
spouted all the time too and then I turned him on to reality and he came out of his fugue
and became a full fledged, on board Democrat! He even came to anti-war demonstrations with
me and held up peace signs! "Stop Bush! No more death! No more War!"

[cali]

46. hey, genius. Obama is winning. duh.

and poor wittle hilly who's always whining and shrieking like a loon.

[UALRBSofL]

10. If I changed to a different party it would be the Green Party

At least they are progressive. I see Obama as a Centrist Democrat.

[Forkboy]

16. We have two centrists running, sadly.

I'd love to see the party shift left and try to appeal to people who share their ideals instead of pandering to people on the right who share them only when it's convenient and really stand for nothing.

[usregimechange]

20. Yeah he was a few points short of a 100% ACLU rating...

[Forkboy]

25. He's still pretty centrist.

Not saying that as an insult, honestly. But he is. Look at Kucinich and Gravel for comparison. Or the far left that aren't even Dems. The political spectrum extends further than just Dems and Repubs, so to some Dems he'll seem centrist, to others he'll seem liberal, depending where on that scale they fall themselves. In comparison to me he is centrist. Hillary has a 100% rating from Naral and Planned Parenthood (I believe Obama does as well), but she's very centrist, and on security downright hawkish.

[usregimechange]

28. I got ya...

[burrowowl]

13. I am upset Obama didn't stand by his Pastor!

What the good Reverend said about Corporations and America not accepting war crime responsibility on the Iraq war is right on! etc.! Man that was Baptist preaching I could identify with! Unfortunately, he was wrong about Obama.

[woolldog]

30. C'mon, be realistic

There's no way he could agree with his pastor. Hell I agree with his pastor but I'm not running for President, so I can say so.

[againes654]

19. Here here!!!!!!

K&R

[rodeodance]

26. Hey--BO did it himself --stop with blaming others . He can be responsible.

[usregimechange]

29. For what someone else said or done? Should Hilary apologize for supporting Spitzer?

[Eurobabe]

31. Yeah, that's like trying to smear someone because they were in the same room

with a philanderer. :shrug:

[Tatiana]

32. I have been reading the blogs and I've truly come to believe this is civil war within the Dem Party.

I have never seen us so vitriolic and hostile towards one another as I have during this primary process. EVERYONE has become polarized. It's not just Kos or MyDD or TPM or DU. It is the whole so-called f*cking progressive establishment.

I have NEVER seen the wholesale adoption of tactics that we had previously come to abhor, the quoting of right-wing lunacy like gospel to score a cheap political point. I believe in karma and it will catch up with the relevant people eventually. One thing I have to say is, at the very least, it has pointed out who really wants an open government that is representative of the people and who wants to win for the sake of winning; who wants to establish a true progressive majority and who puts their personal (or perhaps professional goals) first.

I never thought I'd see the day when both MoveOn and Howard Dean and Keith Olbermann and Randi Rhodes and Stephanie Miller and Rachel Maddow were all collectively thrown under the bus. Kos, who brought together a collection of disaffected progressives and organized the netroots into a powerful coalition that GOT MORE PROGRESSIVES ELECTED TO CONGRESS is now a hack. Howard Dean who also GOT MORE PROGRESSIVES ELECTED TO CONGRESS is now a hack. And Barack HUSSEIN Obama, who inspired those like myself who were not thrilled with a Kerry nomination at the convention, is now an arrogant aristocrat who had everything handed to him on a silver platter. Who knew Obama was born with a silver spoon in his mouth?

This primary process is a true test in more ways than one. We aren't just selecting a Democratic nominee. We are deciding the future direction of the party. Are we going to campaign in all 50-states or are we going to focus on the "significant" ones? Are we going to support and help elect progressive candidates down ticket for Congressional and local offices or are we going to hand a potential Democratic President another hamstrung House and Senate that lacks a mandate to implement a progressive agenda? Do we decide that given this extraordinary moment in American history where we are facing economic disaster, stuck waging an illegal occupation no one wants, to change our direction and look towards the future? Or do we look towards the past and try to make do with what worked a decade ago? Are we going to bring more citizens into the political process and ask them to participate in forming the type of government that is responsive to their needs? Or will we tell the hopeful masses that the answers reside with whoever our leader is, so just relax... the people's input is not requested nor required.

This is the moment we've been waiting for. The secrecy, the blatant violation of our Constitution, the stain of blood on the hands of those who have betrayed all the noble and good things this nation stood for... it's all coming to a head. Our nervous elected officials sense this. We can hold the party together and forge a new pathway or we can go back to the same-old and shatter the party into pieces.

[IndependentDem]

33. whats the saying-- Sleep with dogs, wake up with fleas... n/t

[usregimechange]

34. Wright has earned the right to be angry, so the fleas must belong to someone else

[IndependentDem]

36. wrong fleas and wrong dog. i was talking about the dems sleeping with repugs getting fleas

[2rth2pwr]

35. If Obama wasn't smart enough to know that his association with Wright would

be a problem, I don't know if I would want him running this country.

[Window]

37. K/R.

:kick:

[DerekJ]

38. They can go F themselves

They are not going to win, not going to happen. From the dead cold hands of the tens of millions of Obama supporters that are still backing him.

[crispini]

39. /

:kick:

[SunsetDreams]

42. K&R

[Perry Logan]

43. It has to be said: the Obama people have really earned this.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x5120659

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=4779500&mesg_id=4779500

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=4849238&mesg_id=4849238

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=4922044&mesg_id=4922044

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=4942967&mesg_id=4942967

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=4964704&mesg_id=4964704

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x4965088

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x4965227

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=4982708&mesg_id=4982708

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x5036756

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=5065868&mesg_id=5065868

Reporting threats against Hillary:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=4999545&mesg_id=4999545

[Tyler Durden]

45. I have a question for you.

Does the candidate that you support plan, as chief executive, to defend, protect, and execute the 14th Amendment to the US Constitution as the Oath of Office will require?

For reference, Here is The 14th Amendment, Section 1:

"Section 1. All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws."

This apparently does not have any exclusions, such as "This does not apply to atheists, Muslims, the mental or physically challenged, or male/female homosexuals, bisexuals, transexuals or transgendered persons," and does not let states off the hook.

So, seeing as a failure now or in the future to support the 14th Amendment to the US Constitution, fully and without reservation, will violate US law and the Presidential Oath of Office, does the candidate that you prefer support the 14th Amendment, and if they do not, do you support their immediate impeachment once they take the Oath of Office as the law demands?

[IsItJustMe]

47. Hear hear, strong and honest words indeed.