Whatever happened to Obama's principled stance to boycott Fox News?

[jlake]

Remember when he said he would never go on Fox News and all the praise he got for that?

Seems like he compromised another principle and broke another promise.....

It's almost like he's just another politician or something.... I am STUNNED!

[Jamastiene]

1. He really IS just another politician.

When will people wake up?

[Skittles]

4. it really seems to be breaking some hearts

they don't seem to understand HE IS A POLITICIAN

[KittyWampus]

67. yeah, we are all a bunch of dumb rubes. BTW, the OP is a lie. This primary has exposed quite a bit

about various DU'ers.

[Breeze54]

2. Stunned? Oh the Drama!! Got a link? A video?

I don't watch Faux News (the correct spelling btw).

I have more class and intelligence than that.

Why do you? :shrug:

I did hear that Bill Clinton was on Faux News again today (yesterday) though!!

Why are the Clinton's on Faux News so much? Oh, I remember now!!

Faux News OWNER Right Winger Rupert Murdoch is funding her campaign!!!!

[jlake]

3. I don't watch Fox - but Obama was on their defending himself about

Rev Wright. There is a link up in the political videos forum.

and Bwahahahah Rupert Murdoch is "funding her campaign" He gave a normal donation... like me.

I don't see anyone claiming I am "funding Hillary's campaign"
.... you make it sound like he's funneling millions into the coffers.

[Breeze54]

5. OMG!! The NERVE!! He was defending himself?... again?! he was on PBS last night too!

What a boob!

You'd think he was running a campaign and trying to beat his opponent or something!!

I wonder what other 'stunts' he'll pull!?! Maybe give a speech in PA today?

:crazy:

[jlake]

6. Someone is missing the point. He made a giant spectacle of boycotting Fox.

Did he think they wouldn't attack him and that he wouldn't need to defend himself?

[Breeze54]

8. And you make a spectacle of yourself by supporting him in one Op and denigrating him in another.

Which is it? Or are you wavering? Afraid to change your mind or just trying to "be right"?

[jlake]

11. When did I support Obama?

[Breeze54]

18. You don't even remember what you say?

Are you really that shallow? You don't have a leg to stand on!

:rofl:

Pick a team or shut up!

[jlake]

21. WTF are you talking about - link please?

[Breeze54]

22. Try $93,000 +++++++, genius!

Murdoch Inc digging deep for Hillary

http://www.theage.com.au/news/world/murdoch-inc-digging-deep-for-hillary/2007/11/30/1196394621263.html

Anne Davies, Washington
December 1, 2007
Page 1 of 2 | Single page
Rupert Murdoch: Clinton backer.

Rupert Murdoch: Clinton backer.
Photo: Timothy A. Clary

RUPERT Murdoch's Fox News network might lean to the right and its commentators are harsh critics of Democratic frontrunner Hillary Clinton, but it seems the boss has backed her campaign, along with many of his News Corporation executives.

The Federal Election Commission's donor disclosures reveal that Mr Murdoch and his son James, chief executive of BSkyB in Britain, have contributed generously to Senator Clinton's presidential campaign.

US companies are restricted in donating to political parties, so the vast bulk of donations come either from individuals, who are limited to $US4600 ($A5190) per candidate, or via political action committees, established by companies or non-profit organizations such as unions or interest groups. These bodies have to be registered with the Federal Election Commission and are limited to donating $US5000 a candidate. All donations are disclosed on the internet.

But it seems that no sooner are the rules set than people find a legitimate way around them. With presidential candidates needing to raise huge sums — the front runners are expected to spend well over $US200 million each — the latest tactic is "bundling".

It works like this: a bundler asks employees, board members, wives, children and friends to donate to a particular candidate. It is illegal for a person to reimburse employees but some make donations to a charity of the person's choice if the employee makes the political donation.

According to the Centre for Responsive Politics, a non-profit organisation in Washington that researches the donor lists, News Corporation is now Senator Clinton's 20th largest supporter, having contributed more than $US93,000 to her presidential campaign so far.

Rupert Murdoch contributed $US2300 to her primary campaign on June 5, while son James gave $US3450 on June 30.

Around the same time, several News Corporation board members also made donations: Arthur Siskind contributed $US2300 on June 19; David De Voe contributed $US2300 in May; and Peter Chernin, the chief operating officer, contributed the maximum permitted, $US4600, around the same time, but in February he and his wife, Megan, also contributed $US2100 each to the campaign of her rival, Barak Obama.

John Thornton, an academic on the board, has opted for Senator Obama, contributing $US2300 to his campaign.

But other News corporation executives are also stumping up for Senator Clinton: Michelle Francis, a News Corporation lawyer, has chipped in $US1500; and Lawrence Jacobs, group general counsel, put in $US2300.

[jlake]

23. Rupert Murdoch contributed $US2300 to her primary campaign on June 5, while son James gave $US3450 o

From the article it says Rupert has given her $2300.

If you're talking about NewsCorp, which is a publicly traded company (I have a few shares) Then yes, it gave 93K..... but that is not Rupert Murdoch

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[Larkspur]

66. Murdoch held a FUNDRAISER for Hillary

He just didn't donate the max amount from his checking account. He setup a fundraiser to get his friends and associates to donate to Hillary.

[aquarius dawning]

7. because he didn't want to lose his Fox News watching Republican "supporters"

You know, the ones that are going to "crossover" for him. :dunce:

[barack the house]

9. He's doing just wat he needs to I knw you wer enjoying fox till he did. =)

[jlake]

13. So he breaks his promises and compromises his principles when he needs to?

That is so depressing, I thought he was a new kind of politician bringing hope and change.
Guess it's the same old politics as usual after all..... so what reason is left to support Obama?

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[barack the house]

12. He stood agsinst a debate on fox not to never appear on fox the media are part of the political way

[jlake]

15. Maybe I got up too early, but your post is incoherent.

[Drachasor]

17. He said he wouldn't be in a debate, not that he'd never talk to them

There's a difference.

[jlake]

19. Nope. See link:

http://blog.washingtonpost.com/sleuth/2007/01/obama.html

"Obama has urged other Democrats to freeze out Fox News as well"

[Drachasor]

25. Saw link, your quote isn't in it. In fact, your quote contradicts it...

"Since the madrassah incident, Obama has given interviews to ABC, CNN, CBS and NBC -- pretty much every other network except Fox. Sources close to Obama acknowledged that they're not thrilled to play ball with Fox journalists, but they stopped short of saying they are freezing the network out."

[Umbram]

31. Yep, OP DID NOT BOTHER reading his OWN SOURCE.

There is even an example in that article of Obama answering impromptu questions asked by a Fox reporter.

[krawhitham]

68. SHOCKER

another Hillbot just seeing what they want to see

[texas_indy]

38. Someone who accuses someone of dishonesty then quotes a stmt as if fact from a link when it is not!

Agenda anyone?? Using a lie to attack someone with.......how Hillary like.......

[rucky]

33. Nope again...

"sources say" is not a public promise.

[jlake]

34. DU was sure fast to praise him at that time..... how quickly you forget.

Obama just can't do wrong in your eyes.....

[rucky]

39. I still praise him for at least trying to rise above the political gutter.

I have plenty of criticisms of Obama that I'm reserving for after he's president. And you may have an inkling of praise for him, that I hope you're reserving for after the primary.

Until then - :mad:

After that: :grouphug: and full guns on McCain.

That's how it always goes. And those who don't want to play along usually leave after the nominee is settled.

[Drachasor]

41. Hey, aren't you going to respond to the fact your quote isn't in the article you cited? (nt)

[whopis01]

62. Wow - way to make up a quote and completely distort what was said!

Here are some actual quotes from the article to which you linked:

"Sources close to Obama acknowledged that they're not thrilled to play ball with Fox journalists, but they stopped short of saying they are freezing the network out."

"One source familiar with the dynamic between Fox and Obama, who asked not to be named, said Obama and his staff are in for a rude awakening if they think they can write off Fox News. If a candidate is serious about running for president, he or she is going to need a network like Fox to reach out to all those voters in the red and purple states, the source said."

"No one is suggesting the icy conditions are permanent. In fact, a thawing of sorts may already have begun thanks to two telephone conversations Fox News Channel CEO Roger Ailes had with Obama."

http://blog.washingtonpost.com/sleuth/2007/01/obama.html

[Umbram]

30. Now you know how we feel every time you post. (nt)

[jlake]

51. I know my intellect surpasses your abilities to comprehend.... hugs to you.

[rucky]

32. Exactly. n/t

[CreekDog]

16. you mean like Hillary saying Florida and Michigan won't count and now saying they should

:shrug:

so your point is? :eyes:

[jlake]

20. You need a hug..... Do you ever sleep?

:hug:

[Window]

37. Oh, great answer jlake. NOT. It's a simple, straight forward question which you won't answer. LOL

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[bluerum]

27. I don't understand why people watch that crap anyway,,,

[Sulawesi]

28. Maybe he was defending the principled stance that someone running for president does not need

a perfect pastor...just incredible.

I mean, for HRC supporters to get all over Obama regarding a "principled stance", regarding what network to be interviewed on, is comical.

Do you honestly believe HRCs campaign is principled in what it has stood for?

[jlake]

29. Under a little pressure, Obama's claims collapse.

That is why so many have no faith in his words - and why I don't believe he would have had the resolve and backbone to vote against the IWR had he actually been in the senate.

[Sulawesi]

40. Yeah, so few have faith in his words...

and the problem is so acute that he is beating your candidate in the primaries despite being as many say, an empty suit with no experience. Yes, he is such a lightweight...what a chump...

On IWR, we certainly know HRCs stance, so a criticism of Obama on what might have occurred is laughable.

Obama will emerge from a bitter primary damaged somewhat, and win the GE against a weak opponent. Hillary will go down as running one of the dirtiest campaigns in the history of modern primaries. I will respect the president of the United States again.

[Vinca]

35. It held up about as well as Hillary's promise not to trash another

Democrat. Oops . . . sorry . . . she never promised that, did she?

[democrattotheend]

42. The boycott was for debates

Because debates bring in a lot of revenue for the networks. I am not aware of any candidate pledging not to do interviews on Fox.

[jlake]

46. How quickly you forget...

http://popsurfing.blogspot.com/2007/01/brack-obama-gives-fox-news-cold.html

[LSK]

43. HE WAS BOYCOTTING THE DEBATE ON FOXNEWS

NOTHING MORE.

LEARN TO BE FUCKING INFORMED.

[jlake]

47. HOW QUICKLY YOU FORGET!!!! THIS IS HUGH!!1!!! LOOK AT LINK!!!!!

http://popsurfing.blogspot.com/2007/01/brack-obama-gives-fox-news-cold.html

[LSK]

56. HOW QUICKLY YOU FORGET!!!! THIS IS HUGH!!1!!! LOOK AT LINK!!!!!

http://blog.washingtonpost.com/sleuth/2007/01/obama.html

"Since the madrassah incident, Obama has given interviews to ABC, CNN, CBS and NBC -- pretty much every other network except Fox. Sources close to Obama acknowledged that they're not thrilled to play ball with Fox journalists, but they stopped short of saying they are freezing the network out.

snip

No one is suggesting the icy conditions are permanent. In fact, a thawing of sorts may already have begun thanks to two telephone conversations Fox News Channel CEO Roger Ailes had with Obama."

READING IS FUNDAMENTAL. Also, if you want be taken seriously, you should not be using opinion peace blogs instead of newspaper reports.

[theredpen]

72. That wasn't a policy

(Love the title of your post :) )
"Roger Ailes has reached out to Obama and since FOX News Channel is by far the biggest news channel, this probably won't last."

It didn't. Obama never said it would.

[jakem]

44. Hey, what happened to your departure?

I even said nice things about you kind of, and now you are back...

[SoCalDem]

45. I guess sometimes you have to go into the "belly of the beast"

to confront it..

[jlake]

49. That is true. But one shouldn't be so naive to say they will boycott a news channel....

when they will need to go on to defend themself.

[apocalypsehow]

48. You're a fine one to talk about a "principled stance to boycott" a place:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=132&topic_id=4970797

:eyes:

[jlake]

50. Bwahahaha When I run for president you can bring that up.

[apocalypsehow]

53. It demonstrates your basic dishonesty quite well. The fact that you embrace such dishonesty is very

telling of your character.

[jlake]

55. Just like Obama's constant lies and smears prove he is a racist, woman hating,

lying chicago scumbag who will do anything to win.

[apocalypsehow]

61. My, my, looks like someone gets cranky when their dishonesty is so clearly exposed. There, there:

it'll get better just as soon as you live up to your stated word and boycott DU like you promised to weeks ago.

[jgraz]

52. Bye bye, jlake. Your schtick has gotten beyond old.

[jlake]

59. La la la la la la la la la I can't hear you.... I'm drowning in koolaid.....

[LaurenG]

54. Reach a little farther now

keep reaching and then reach some more. :rofl:

[Hoof Hearted]

57. K&R

[LSK]

58. K&R a debunked lie?

What does that say about you?

[Forkboy]

60. How's that search coming along?

[jlake]

63. Good. I have 6 links.... I'm still looking for one more issue I mentioned I had seen.

[Forkboy]

64. Ok cool..I'll be waiting with bells on my toes.

Though considering how many you claimed there were I'm surprised the search is taking so long. Oh wait, it's you I'm talking to...nevermind.

[jlake]

65. Um, I'm at work and don't have 24/7 DU time.... unfortunately.

[Forkboy]

70. That's ok...I can wait...I'll be sure to remind you so you don't forget.

:thumbsup:

[jlake]

73. I know you will.... unless you find a socket for your fork in the interim.

[Forkboy]

74. Awww...did I touch a nerve?

Good.

[onenote]

69. What other works of fiction do you have for us?

This one was great...Obama making a "great spectacle" of himself declaring that he is boycotting Fox News. Interesting that you haven't posted a single link that backs up your claim.

[theredpen]

71. He pledged not to *debate* on Fox News. He didn't say he wouldn't *appear* on Fox News

I thought this had been covered previously.
:banghead: