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2rth2pwr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-18-08 11:11 AM
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I missed the speech, will watch it online, can anyone tell me what
he said that makes this Pastorgate issue go away?

Or was this another speech where all anyone can say about it is "wow what a great speech"?
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-18-08 11:16 AM
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1. He said that he condemns part of what Wright said and has in the past
but that he won't betray him because ..(long list of reasons) including that he could no more betray his grandmother who has used racial stereotypes that have made him cringe in the past. He said that there is good reason for such anger and that whites too have much anger but it is misplaced and directed AT blacks mostly for political reasons (Reagan coalition-by name- and hinted at the Southern Strategy)
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-18-08 11:27 AM
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2. Best summery you will find anywhere
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rucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-18-08 11:29 AM
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I was hoping you'd link to that one.
:rofl:
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2rth2pwr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-18-08 12:08 PM
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7. "Hillary Clinton is shitting blood" ?? what the fuck?@!2?/??
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-18-08 12:42 PM
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16. Another exprience you've missed? Too bad.
:shrug:
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2rth2pwr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-18-08 11:29 AM
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3. chirp


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jackson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-18-08 11:30 AM
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4. He finally admitted he was present when Wright made statements that were "controversial"
Other than that is was soaring rhetoric but the substance was nothing we haven't heard from politicians for decades. The problem isn't his public rhetoric. The problem is his public rhetoric does not square with his private actions. He may have even exacerbated the hypocrisy issue by lecturing the nation on race when he could not live up to for 20 years what he know calls on the nation to do.
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2rth2pwr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-18-08 11:34 AM
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5. All the times this weekend when he said he wasn't there when Wright
said these things were...lies?

He lied?
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jackson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-18-08 11:59 AM
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6. Apparently
The two step looks to be this: 1) He knew he was controversial (what he claimed he was unaware of until recently) 2) That he wasn't there for "those" statements that have went viral on the internet. The real story is how, like on Rezko, his story keeps changing.
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peaches2003 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-18-08 12:26 PM
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9. He said no such thing!
He said in conversations he had had with Wright there were things said he did not agree with, but he did NOT say he was in church the day of this tape that is being played ad nauseum.

No politician has confronted the race issue in this country from BOTH perspectives in yrs, if ever.

I want to know WHAT ELSE HE IS EXPECTED TO SAY ABOUT WRIGHT??? And why there is not the same criticism made of Bush at Bob Jones Univ and the other politicians who want and get the support of RW racist preachers?
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peaches2003 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-18-08 12:26 PM
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10. Edit- double posted
Edited on Tue Mar-18-08 12:28 PM by peaches2003
:blush:
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seafan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-18-08 12:09 PM
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8. Transcript here
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mod mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-18-08 12:26 PM
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11. WATCH IT HERE;
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Ichingcarpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-18-08 12:43 PM
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17. The OP doesn't want to listen to it or watch it
other wise he would have responded to you for being
his research monkey
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bobbert Donating Member (548 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-18-08 01:06 PM
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18. Thanks, I missed it too
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2rth2pwr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-18-08 01:34 PM
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19. Thanks, I watched the Msnbc videos.
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-18-08 12:27 PM
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12. basically, he pointed out how stupid the whole thing was.
In terms that even stupid people can understand.
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Guy Whitey Corngood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-18-08 12:31 PM
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15. You're giving certain people too much credit. n/t
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2rth2pwr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-18-08 01:36 PM
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20. Then I guess it would be easy for you to let us know
what he said that will make this issue go away.
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loveangelc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-18-08 12:29 PM
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13. Here are excerpts:
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2rth2pwr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-18-08 01:37 PM
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21. thanks
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Johnny__Motown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-18-08 12:31 PM
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14. It isn't going to make it go away, it will change the discussion
You will need to see it to understand it.
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