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jasmine621 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-18-08 01:56 PM
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Just went over Obama' s speech again. No flames, please
but did he in some way diss Islam?
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bicentennial_baby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-18-08 01:57 PM
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1. huh?
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angie_love Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-18-08 01:57 PM
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2. no.
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democrattotheend Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-18-08 01:57 PM
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3. He talked about "radical Islam" as a threat
I would have preferred that he just said terrorists, but it was certainly not a dig at all Muslims.
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YOY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-18-08 02:01 PM
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9. It IS a threat
So is radical religion in general but he's got to distance himself from one (really lame) Right Wing smear at a time.
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Zueda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-18-08 01:57 PM
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4. How bout some context please.
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angie_love Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-18-08 01:58 PM
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no
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loveangelc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-18-08 01:58 PM
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5. ...what.
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Jersey Devil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-18-08 01:58 PM
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6. "radical Islam"
Got a problem with that? Think anyone else does?
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Hepburn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-18-08 01:59 PM
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7. No. n/t
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-18-08 02:00 PM
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8. LOL
First he's a muslim, then he's a christian who hates white people, now he hates Islam.
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Alter Ego Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-18-08 02:01 PM
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10. Pretty sure he said "radical Islam"
and I would hope most Muslims would feel the same way about radical Islam.
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flowomo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-18-08 02:07 PM
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11. the only hint of that I saw was this:
"Did I strongly disagree with many of his (Wright's) political views? Absolutely – just as I’m sure many of you have heard remarks from your pastors, priests, or rabbis with which you strongly disagreed."

but no mention of an Islamic spiritual leader in that list. Is that a diss? I don't know. It's an omission.
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jasmine621 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-18-08 02:13 PM
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13. Sorry, this is what I was referring to:
"But the remarks that have caused this recent firestorm weren't simply controversial. They weren't simply a religious leader's effort to speak out against perceived injustice. Instead, they expressed a profoundly distorted view of this country - a view that sees white racism as endemic, and that elevates what is wrong with America above all that we know is right with America; a view that sees the conflicts in the Middle East as rooted primarily in the actions of stalwart allies like Israel, instead of emanating from the perverse and hateful ideologies of radical Islam."

It implies that we have no "radical" allies and that there is no side of the Israeli issue that is "radical." I cringed immediately when I heard him say this. But I guess I am overly sensitive to the ME issue. I guess we only have "stalwart" allies and no radical allies.
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rainy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-18-08 02:33 PM
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15. I cringed also. I felt it was a bone for his jewish supporters. nt
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2rth2pwr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-18-08 02:34 PM
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16. He doesn't really believe it?
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rainy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-18-08 02:36 PM
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17. I doubt it if he is hanging around pastor Wright. The conflict goes both
ways. It's not all radical islam and Israel is part to blame.
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2rth2pwr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-18-08 02:42 PM
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18. What happened to a new kind of politics
a politics of hope, hope that we can believe in, we the people we have been waiting for?

He's just lying?

I am so disillusioned.
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rainy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-18-08 02:51 PM
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20. I just don't think he thinks the Palestine/Israel problem is caused by radical
Islamics. Radicalism is what happens when injustices are not remedied.
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ayeshahaqqiqa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-18-08 02:12 PM
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12. I read the speech
and don't recall him saying anything that could be construed as dissing Islam.
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leftynyc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-18-08 02:15 PM
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14. Just radical Islam
How many people are going to have a problem with that?
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RiverStone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-18-08 02:49 PM
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19. So tell us, what did you like about his speech? ...n/t
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