Obama condems Imus but holds Wright up

[2rth2pwr]

"I understand MSNBC has suspended Mr. Imus," Obama told ABC News, "but I would also say that there's nobody on my staff who would still be working for me if they made a comment like that about anybody of any ethnic group. And I would hope that NBC ends up having that same attitude."

http://www.abcnews.go.com/Politics/story?id=3031317&page=1

And I am a constitutional lawyer and strongly believe in free speech, but as a culture,we really have to do some soul-searching to think about what kind of toxic information are we feeding our kids,"

He had no problem taking his kids to learn from Wright.

[islandmkl]

1. "He had no problem taking his kids to learn from Wright."....

not unlike sex-ed in the WH halls, either...

is it?

[Lerkfish]

2. must really suck to be you

I mean, really. The best you can come up with is this weak-assed stuff?

[not_too_L8]

48. thank you

[SoFlaJet]

3. give it a rest will ya?

.

[loveangelc]

4. stop being desperate, its not becoming at all. are you really looking up old stories to make your

same point over and over again...?

[ElsewheresDaughter]

37. it's a legit point and is already being discussed in the MSM

[loveangelc]

39. where?

[ElsewheresDaughter]

44. My hubby just came in and told me about it...when he gets back in I'll ask him where he heard it

he listens to NPR

[redqueen]

5. I would say that I can't believe you're comparing the comments...

but logic has been scarce around here lately.

Good luck with your nonsense.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

6. I Like Hillary But We Beat This Horse To Death

The ball is in the American peoples court now...

[papau]

21. True-the polls next week will show if the immediate response is positive -the GOP general of course

will still do the 527 ads - and the effect may - or may not - be different.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

28. I Suspect The Race Is Frozen Where It Is Now

With Hillary and Obama essentially tied in the nat'l vote and Hillary doing a tad bit better against McCain...

You still have the FL and MI mess...I don't think the remaing primaries will settle anything...

I'd hate to be a super delegate...

[Larkspur]

7. As a white person, I was not offended by Rev. Wright's remarks

Like the ancient Israelite prophet Jeremiah, Rev. Wright was railing against injustices and abuse of power that he saw committed by the ruling elite, which is predominately white; whereas, Rev. Falwell and Pat Robertson coddled the corrupt ruling elite and attacked those who had no or little power to safeguard America -- feminists, pagans, homosexuals, etc..

[11 Bravo]

16. I was, but the remarks belong to the Rev. Wright, not to Senator Obama.

This guilt by association bullshit is not worthy of my party.

[PetraPooh]

34. I agree, they seemed perfectly rational in context, and

having been in places in East Texas for H&W that most whites have never seen; I also know he is accurate. I think the problem with many posters on DU is that they have lead protected lives far from the dismal realities that most impoverished and lower middle class blacks face even when compared to whites' impoverished and lower middle class areas.

[sorrybushisfromtexas]

8. give it a rest

If we can't post something positive about our candidate let us not slime and that is what you are doing.

I don't think that Wright is some old scary black man.

[MADem]

9. Ironically, Imus gives Obama the fairest of hearings on his new/improved program. NT

[UALRBSofL]

10. Thanks for posting this

This is an example of Obama's racial divide in my opinion. What Imus said was nothing comparable to Wright yet he calls what Imus said as toxic for kids yet he takes his kids to listen to Wright. This in and of itself is hypocrisy.

[EFerrari]

14. Let's see. Calling young black women racial epithets vs.

calling out the racist policy of the American government.

No comparison, Alex.

[2rth2pwr]

19. Obama strongly denounced both

[EFerrari]

25. Wrong. No comparison.

[UALRBSofL]

30. Here is my feelings of Obama on Imus/Wright

After watching the videos and seeing the obvious reception by his followers I would hope that most would reputiate the things that Wright said, but I have inner feeling that this is not so.
At least Wright is saying what he believes. Does Obama feel the same way?
Is he hiding his true feeling because he's going for the top job? Does his upbringing and earlier teaching create problems?
Is race going to be the biggest factor in this election?
If anyone says anything about Obama, or attempts to ask questions, are they being racist?
If these questions are honest information seeking inquiries seeking his views, and infringe on his past, are they racist?

Things Wright said, the Holloway Investigation, AIDS, Clinton/Lewinski scandle are just a few things I found as bad as Imus' statements.

[EFerrari]

36. You watched a 2 minute video out of a 30+ year career,

misinterpreted it and now want to know if Obama feels the same way?

Maybe it's time to rely less on your feelings about Wright and go to the church's website and read something. Because this has been a smear from top to bottom.


And, why do you have so many fearful questions about Obama in regards to this issue when you yourself haven't bothered to find out anything on your own besides watching a 2 minute video that Fox is hawking.

If I were Obama, I'd have doubts about you.

[DJ13]

11. I would recommend the Clinton supporters try and post positives about her today

You wont get flamed as badly if you tried improving her image instead of trying to drag Obama down to her level.

[LSK]

12. were those kids ho's? did that have any basis of truth???

Another idiot who does not understand the issues of the day.

:eyes:

[2rth2pwr]

33. HIV is a genocidal invention of the US of A?

[LSK]

41. America did not nuke Hiroshima???

The Palestinians are living on easy street?

The war on drugs has not resulted in the largest prison population in the world??

Iran-contra never happened?

The CIA never staged a Coup in another country?

:shrug:

[2rth2pwr]

53. and we didn't bat an eye? please we've been wringing our hands for half

a century.

If you want Obama to use the rest of your post as his platform....good luck against McCain.

[Liberal Veteran]

55. Some of us have been wringing our hands.....the right wing's answer to everything however is

NUKE 'EM ALL!!!

[Abacus]

13. You folks are making it easy today

Another one for the ignore list. It's time to move on.

[MichaelHarris]

15. I haven't weighed in one of these yet but

this half-assed post deserves it. You want to compare Imus calling a group of young women whores to Obama's Pastor? You do understand some African-Americans have a reason to hate America sometimes, especially in a country that almost condoned a radio personality calling some members of the African-American community whores. Did you think before you typed or does shit naturally fall out of you?

[EFerrari]

22. These posts describing Wright, that church and the black community

as HATING, hateful or teaching hatred are bullshit.

His comments were about US government policy, not the white race. If we want to disagree with him that our country is run by rich white men, well, we'd be wrong.

If you go to the church's website, it's clear that it is doing amazing work and that although a "black" church, it has a significant number of white congregants, including mostly white student groups who are also interested in building the community.

These posts are disinfo and in themselves, hateful.

[EFerrari]

17. I'm going to bookmark you OP as the kind of race baiting that has

distinguished the Clinton campaign and its supporters.

Thanks!

[JoFerret]

60. Mark that poster down for extermination

.

[RUMMYisFROSTED]

18. Hi, 2rth2pwr

:hi:

[2rth2pwr]

31. long time

[RUMMYisFROSTED]

32. Agreed.

[stray cat]

20. nappy headed whores as a name for a woman's basketball team

[bowens43]

23. do you ever get dizzy?

[uponit7771]

24. Stop hatin :-)

[pnwmom]

26. What has Imus ever said or done that is inspiring? That would cause one

to be willing to overlook an occasional transgression? How many social action programs has he run? How many families has he helped?

I missed that, somehow.

Also, I missed the part where Imus himself, as he was growing up and as a young man, suffered all the evils of segregation -- which would certainly explain a good deal of bitterness.

[2rth2pwr]

35. Hamas does a lot of charity work,

do you overlook an occasional transgression from them also?

[EFerrari]

40. But I thought you were slamming Obama for being the wrong kind of Christian.

Are we back to the Muslim "smear"?

You really don't disappoint.

[pnwmom]

47. We were talking about Imus. Is he part of Hamas?

:shrug:

[EFerrari]

49. I don't think Hamas wants him.

lol

[2rth2pwr]

54. You said charity work makes up for transgression

I am asking you if that absolves groups like Hamas.

simple concept, really.

[pnwmom]

63. It all depends on the transgression. Hamas's transgressions don't compare. n/t

[ellacott]

27. So according to your logic

If his grandmother were still alive she should never have seen her granddaughters.

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

29. Lemme guess.

You're an Imus fan.

[UALRBSofL]

45. I'm not an Imus fan and never listened to him

But I remember the flap about his statement in the media for a week and I felt Imus was racist and should be fired. That said, I don't believe the issue with Obama/Wright should get a pass either. I think people should be fair about there judgments on both issues.

[EFerrari]

46. The difference is, since you didn't get it the first time

that Imus made racist remarks about a group of young women.

Rev. Wright was calling out racism in the US government, whose long history of racism I assume you are familiar with.

There is no comparison. Obama nor Wright need a pass from anyone.

[beachmom]

38. He condemned Imus's remarks, he condemned Wright's remarks. All I see is consistency. nt

[olkaz]

42. Is this what the "last throes" looks like?

Seriously? Comparing Imus to Wright?

Good lord.

[Forkboy]

43. Ignorance: It's not just for breakfast anymore.

[metsqueenz]

50. Let's be fair. Obama condemned Wright's comments as well

For the past two days, Obama has condemned Wright's comments.
It is unfair to imply otherwise.

[Liberal Veteran]

56. But he didn't denounce, reject, abjure, disaffirm, spurn, repudiate, disavow them!!!!

So obviously that has no meaning.

:D

[2rth2pwr]

61. when it was politically convienient

When it helped with his street cred in Chicago, he had no problem taking his family to a church where

you were taught that anger was the answer.

[damntexdem]

51. Wright told the truth about America.

Obama's critique is that Wright didn't see the promise of the future.

But Wright was and is correct about America's history of racism, and it's lasting effects. Obama hopes we can overcome those effects.

[JoFerret]

52. Amusing reminder

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[knight_of_the_star]

57. Or McClurkin

[meow mix]

58. and thats a bad thing? haha whatever.. keep cryin its great.

waaaah waaah

[RBInMaine]

59. Apples and Oranges. Anyone with a teaspoon full of brains can see that.

[TheFarseer]

62. I agree it's inconsistent

the only thing I can say in his defense, is that Reverend Wright is not part of his campaign anymore (I'm a bit unclear on if he ever was) You're right though, it is basically an inconsistent position.