Now that the Wright thing is put to bed we have one more hurdle, Edwards

[ericgtr]

who is purported to endorse Hillary, maybe on his upcoming Leno appearance. I really do like Edwards and I think that most here on both sides of our candidates agree. His policies have mostly been in line with Obama's, however it appears not to matter to him. That being said, we'll have to see how big of a boost, if any, it gives to Hillary. Once that is over maybe Obama can actually focus more on issues than defending himself for a change.

BTW today's speech was absolutely monumental.

[Rosa Luxemburg]

1. why would Edwards endorse Clinton?

if he does he must have a gun to his head!

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

17. The only way Edwards does is if Hillary has something embarassing on him she's threatened to release

Edwards' policies align much more with Obama's. Unless Hillary has offerred him the VP slot outright. That's possible, since Hillary is desperate to do anything to stop Obama's momentum. In any case, it won't matter. Too little, too late.

[MADem]

35. What an asinine remark. nt

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

39. You're the ass if you believe otherwise.

[MADem]

40. You seriously believe that Clinton has some goods on Edwards?

That is the belief of someone with a very naive and pathetic worldview. A ... virulent ... partisan. Reason means nothing to you.

Asinine, indeed.

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

41. Either that OR Hillary's bribed Edwards with the VP slot. How else do you explain it if

Edwards sells out his basic principles-which I admire by the way-that run counter to much of what Hillary stands for and endorses her? You can't, and that's fine, but that doesn't mean you have to keep on embarrassing yourself by throwing out petty insults. Grow up or, better yet, just go away. Goodbye!

[greguganus]

45. She may have a blue pantsuit with Edwards DNA on it. lol. n/t

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

53. Good one! I wouldn't put anything past Hillary, being the Rovian disciple that she is, but . . .

I think that's very unlikely based on Hillary's strong corporate leanings and almost drug-like dependency on lobbyist and PAC money. Because of these and other fundamental differences between those two, I think Edwards would have a hard time getting it up for Hillary.

[MADem]

49. I can't help you if you don't bother to review the positions of the candidates.

Edwards has. That's how he'll make his endorsement decision, if he makes one at all.

You apparently seem to think that all of those blue collar types are supporting Clinton because .... why? They're voting against their economic interests?

Clinton is a working class candidate. So was Edwards. That's not Obama's "prime demographic." If anyone doesn't seem to know the candidates' positions, you fit the bill. I find this is common when dealing with BO supporters--they can't name a single thing he's for, they just support him anyway.

And this part of your helplessly uninformed screed is priceless--I want to clip it, repeat it, and hold it up for proper examination, because it's probably the stupidest comment I've seen on this forum today, and it came from YOUR keyboard:

...that doesn't mean you have to keep on embarrassing yourself by throwing out petty insults. Grow up or, better yet, just go away. Goodbye!

Put down that mirror, dear. You're apparently a bit confused. A common difficulty?

[kerry-is-my-prez]

44. Don't you know that Hillary is the antichrist and that you are evil if you support her.

You cannot be a good person if you support her.

:eyes:

[MADem]

47. ....

:rofl:

I do like to challenge people when they make halfassed comments like that. It really does bring out the true nature of some of the characters who oppose Clinton. It's not her policies, it's not her programs, it's not her platforms that they dislike (there's not a hell of a lot of daylight between Clinton and Obama on those scores)....it's just that they've picked "the other team" and they feel compelled to scream and shout and behave poorly, like rabid, drunken Euro football fans. If only they realized that this kind of shit doesn't make their team win, they'd save themselves some energy...!

I have to say, although I support Senator Clinton, I actually like Senator Obama much more than a fairly large percentage of his DU "supporters." Most of them are newcomers, and they'll probably be 'outta here' once the decision is taken. I take some hope in that probability.

[Auntie Bush]

38. Come on!

Give Edwards more credit than that! To suggest Hillary has something embarrassing on Edwards is insulting!

#1 Hillary and Edwards agree on Health Care. #2 Hillary and Edwards both appeal to poorer Americans...Obama appeals to Rethugs and Yuppies (or the wealthier) #3 H.& E. appeal to the real Democratic base. I'd say their issues are more in line than with Obama.

I also don't think he's just vying for the VP spot. I doubt if he wants to go through that again...however a cabinet position would be perfect. He said he'd endorse the one who's issues are more in line with his. So are you suggesting he's a liar? :shrug:

[Bake]

54. Got a link for that?

Or are you just engaging in character assassination for the sun of it?

Bake

[GarbagemanLB]

2. He will not endorse her.

[Kurt_and_Hunter]

3. And, of course, the American people.

[Unsane]

15. More of whom have voted for Obama.

nice try

[Drachasor]

4. The speech can't just be a speech; it doesn't end there

We should talk about racial issues; that was the point.

[ElsewheresDaughter]

5. what makes you think this has been put to bed?

[Autumn]

7. I think it's taking a nap,

should be wide awake in a few months.

[movonne]

13. Are you one of the paid ones???

[ElsewheresDaughter]

16. soon I will be in the upper 2% earned income bracket

[Autumn]

21. No it's a freebie

How about you? How much do you make?

[DemVet]

36. Exactly. This ISN'T going to go away. n/t

[ericgtr]

14. After today you mean? The only one's hanging on after that speech are really hateful people

just MO.

[ElsewheresDaughter]

19. well I'm sure you've heard the cliche about smelly sphincters and opinions

[ericgtr]

22. LOL alrighty then

another one ignored.

[JVS]

25. yeah but enough about the orifice from which you pull your opinions.

[LSK]

20. 1 + 1 = 2???

[CatsDogsBabies]

6. I can't see why he would endorse her either

the fact that he hasn't endorsed her yet in the face of all the rumors means he doesn't want to enorse her.

[leftynyc]

52. Why hasn't he endorsed

Sen Obama? Why hasn't Al Gore? Have you asked yourself these questions?

[redqueen]

8. If he was going to endorse Clinton... why wait till this late?

It doesn't make any sense to me.

I hope he doesn't. We'll see...

When is he going to be on Leno?

[Johnny__Motown]

9. Edwards endorsing Hillary is political suicide, unless she promised him the VP slot. even then....

she/they will lose and his career ends in Nov.

[d.amber]

55. agreed 100%

I could not think of a worst move. She is everything he fought again. The insider and Establishment. He can go no where and they will loose...period. And as much as I love Edwards, if he endorses Clinton, I could no longer have any respect for him. To embrace everything that he fought against and to make this go to convention and leave it to race fight and super delegates.

I can't see it. Please John...don't endorse anyone.

[LakeSamish706]

10. I sure hope he doesn't endorse anyone, Obama doesn't need it and I think...

that him endorsing Hillary would be contrary to what he was saying in his entire campaign.

And I was an Edwards supporter until he suspended.

[Andy823]

26. I agree with you

I was also a strong Edwards supporter, but have decided that Obama would be better than Clinton, especially after all of her kitchen sink tactics. I would really lose respect for John if he backed Hillary since he was running as the alternative to her.

[PoliticalAmazon]

11. Hillary is the Anti-Edwards

I believe that this idea about Edwards endorsing HRC is a product of the Hillary Clinton Dirty Tricks Brigade.

Hillary Clinton is the Anti-Edwards. Edwards voices a populist agenda. Hillary Clinton backs NAFTA and sending American jobs to India. Edwards wants us out of Iraq. Hillary Clinton says she does, but if actions speak louder than words (especailly her words, which are worthless), she is as much of a war-mongerer as McCain is.

I would like to chase down the source of this idea. It just doesn't make sense to me. It would be like Dennis Kucinich endorsing Joe Lieberman. Just can't see it happening.

[Cha]

43. On other threads it was credited to

being on bartcop's and a mark halperin from time mag.

bart's a hilary supporter which doesn't make sense either..but there you are.

[K Gardner]

12. If Edwards endorses HRC, he is not the Edwards that ran as a populist. Anyone

but the most lukewarm supporter of Obama will never.. I repeat NEVER.. switch to Clinton; certainly not on the basis of an endorsement by John Edwards, who waited this late and refused to speak out while this war in the party raged on.

I was an Edwards supporter, and was in 2004 as well, but I just don't see that this is a game-changer, either way. No Hillary supporters would change on that basis either, I don't think.

[Stephanie]

24. I agree, and I was an Edwards supporter too

And all of my Edwards supporter friends in NY are behind Obama now. I just don't see that he would endorse her. It doesn't make sense.

[PoliticalAmazon]

28. I was an Edwards supporter, too.

The reason I moved over to support Obama was because of his populist message and because I believe he is the leader we need to get us out of this mess that 8 years of a Bush administration (with Democrats in Congress voting for the neocon agenda more often than they voted against it)has left us.

Obama really is a uniter, and he inspires people to roll up their sleeves and get to work getting this mess cleaned up.

That's what we need. We don't need someone like Clinton, using the most heinous of all tactics, racial diviseness, to get her way. Clinton has always gone about getting her way in a very ham-fisted manner, and that does not unite people behind a cause nor does it inspire people to get in there and do the hard work.

I believe Edwards would have been a great leader, too. But he's not on the menu now, and Obama has many of Edwards fine qualities.

It's all about leadership, folks. The best plan in the world will fail without a leader to inspire a group to come together and get the plan done.

[LSK]

18. if she thinks she will get the Edwards endorsement

She must have been SLEEPING during every one of his speeches about THE STATUS QUO, CORPORATIONS, LOBBYISTS, CHANGE.

Wasn't John Edwards basing his entire campaign on anti-establishment, anti-DC rhetoric???

How the hell does Hillary think she would get an Edwards endorsement???

[PoliticalAmazon]

30. It's just more Hillary Clinton Stupid Rove Tricks

This stinks of one of her mind-frack dirty-politics games.

If she keeps it up long enough, Edwards might just find himself having to step in and endorse Obama :-)

[Thrill]

23. Edwards has no pull. Especially in NC

[citizen snips]

56. Many undecided super delegates in NC are looking to Edwards

to pull them in the right direction. Many congressman like Mel Watt, David Price and Brad Miller all supported Edwards until he dropped out. Edwards opinion could change they will go to.

U.S. Rep. Mel Watt of Charlotte, a past chairman of the Congressional Black Caucus, initially backed Edwards. He wants to talk with Edwards before deciding whether to endorse.

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[HiFructosePronSyrup]

27. Since super tuesday, 47 superdelegates for Obama, 0 for Clinton.

I really don't put much faith in those rumors.

[Teaser]

48. 2 for Clinton, actually

in the name of accuracy. That includes Murtha yesterday.

[BenDavid]

29. Obama failed in his primary goal — to take responsibility

for having a twenty-year relationship with a man to whom hateful rhetoric appears second nature:
Shouldn’t Obama have spoken out at Trinity to instruct those younger people so that they don’t adopt the bitterness of Rev. Wright? Isn’t that the responsibility of the next generation, to end that kind of rhetoric? How responsible or courageous is it to remain silent in that community while the rhetoric that Obama finds so objectionable gets delivered to the next two generations — including his own children?

All he did was reaffirm and solidify the racial divide with this speech. He thew the woman who raised him and sacrificed for him under the bus by painting her a racist and embraced the man who preaches hate to his congregation to ensure its continuance.

[PoliticalAmazon]

32. Give it a rest, will ya?

Sufferin' Jesus. Now he's supposed to take responsibility for his pastor's comments?

Have you attended a church regularly over years and years? I have, and there are many times I don't agree with the sensei, especially when he gets on one of his tangents. But I'm not there to sit in judgment of others. I'm there to learn what I can from what is presented; and for the fellowship, of course.

To think that someone would expect me to take responsibility for what the sensei says is just ridiculous.

How about my Avon lady? Should I take responsibility for what she says, too? She can get pretty radical when it comes to all-day-shine lip color, so I might be in big trouble here...

[JTFrog]

50. You Fail!

[goletian]

31. he will be get boos on leno, i predict. - nt

[gmudem]

33. I would be shocked if Edwards endorses Hillary.

She is the complete opposite of everything Edwards stood for. She is the definition of a corporate, status quo candidate who will be unwilling to take on the necessary fights.

I am not totally convinced that Obama will be as strong on these issues as Edwards, but he does at least give me some reason to believe that he is not completely beholden to lobbyists like Clinton and all DLC'ers.

[cooolandrew]

34. I am so happy that after all these months people see what I see.=)

[saracat]

37. Why would Edwards endorse Obama who doesn't support his health care plan and guarantees corporation

a "seat the table". Why would he support Obama?

[zulchzulu]

42. I'm not really sure Edwards' endorsement for any candidate brings much cred

I'll be honest. I like him and wish the best for he and the family.

But when he dropped out of the race before Super Tuesday and robbed Edwards fans from seeing his campaign in at least one last battle (and after he was saying he was in the race all the way to Denver), he lost a lot of cred in my view. I felt bad for Edwards supporters who basically had the rug pulled from under them.

If he endorses Obama, that would make sense since he was for change in Washington. Will it help? I guess.

If he endorses Clinton, pretty much every speech he made and every talking point he came out with for change in Washington means absolutely nothing then.

He would be young enough to run again in 2012 or even 2016, but would people trust him then? I doubt it.

[Neshanic]

46. It's not put to bed, it's under the bed, and comes out in the republican dark.

[CarbonDate]

51. Edwards is DLC. Of course he'll endorse her.

His supporters who think he's some sort of people's hero are delusional, ignoring his Senate voting record in favor of his campaign rhetoric. Watch not what a politician says; watch what (s)he does.