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Floyd53 Donating Member (39 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-18-08 10:06 PM
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Most Famous Speech of the last 100 years -Recommend if you agree
Recommend if you agree.
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Rick Myers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-18-08 10:09 PM
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1. Uh... No...
Amazing. Impressive. Brilliant.

Top 10 in my lifetime, for sure...

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Floyd53 Donating Member (39 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-18-08 10:14 PM
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11. top ten - not bad
What is your number one speech?
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Tarc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-18-08 10:11 PM
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2. 12 hrs later and the O-Bots are still back-slapping over this tripe?
Good god almighty. :eyes:
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thevoiceofreason Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-18-08 10:13 PM
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6. You may be . . . oops. I just took a Tarc.
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Tarc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-18-08 10:14 PM
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I love the irony of your user name, kid
:puke:
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thevoiceofreason Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-18-08 10:24 PM
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17. I'm much older than you
And wiser by years.

Hell, my kids are probably older, and certainly wiser, than you.

I'll reserve judgment regrding my grandkids.

Punk.
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Teaser Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 07:48 AM
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51. you slapped him upside the head.
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Rick Myers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-18-08 10:14 PM
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8. I am not an O-bot
I am a 50 year old realist who wants to see his nephew inherit a nation that is still a functional democracy.
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scheming daemons Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-18-08 10:17 PM
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14. It's all the MSM is talking about too.... Obama is owning the narrative now after a week where he..
didn't.


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shadowknows69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-18-08 10:11 PM
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3. In the top 50
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Floyd53 Donating Member (39 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-18-08 10:17 PM
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13. 50 wow, I can barely recall a half a dozen
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whistle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-18-08 11:01 PM
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28. Here is a web site of the top 100 speeches of the 20th century
http://www.americanrhetoric.com/top100speechesall.html

Here are the top 25 and I guess the determininf factor would be popularity:

Rank Speaker Title/Text Audio Duration
1 Martin Luther King, Jr. "I Have A Dream" mp3 Entire
2 John Fitzgerald Kennedy
Inaugural Address
mp3 Entire
3 Franklin Delano Roosevelt
First Inaugural Address
mp3 Entire
4 Franklin Delano Roosevelt
Pearl Harbor Address to the Nation
mp3 Entire
5 Barbara Charline Jordan
1976 DNC Keynote Address
mp3 Entire

6 Richard Milhous Nixon "Checkers"
mp3 Entire

7 Malcolm X "The Ballot or the Bullet"
mp3 Entire

8 Ronald Wilson Reagan Shuttle ''Challenger'' Disaster Address
mp3 Entire
9 John Fitzgerald Kennedy
Houston Ministerial Association Speech
mp3 Entire

10 Lyndon Baines Johnson "We Shall Overcome"
mp3 Entire
11 Mario Matthew Cuomo 1984 DNC Keynote Address
mp3 Entire

12 Jesse Louis Jackson 1984 DNC Address
mp3.1 mp3.2 mp3.3
Entire

13 Barbara Charline Jordan
Statement on the Articles of Impeachment
mp3 Entire

14 (General) Douglas MacArthur
Farewell Address to Congress
mp3 Entire
15 Martin Luther King, Jr.
"I've Been to the Mountaintop"
mp3 Entire
16 Theodore Roosevelt
"The Man with the Muck-rake"

17 Robert Francis Kennedy
Remarks on the Assassination of MLK
mp3 Entire
18 Dwight David Eisenhower Farewell Address
mp3 Entire
19 Thomas Woodrow Wilson
War Message

20 (General) Douglas MacArthur
"Duty, Honor, Country"
mp3 Entire
21 Richard Milhous Nixon
"The Great Silent Majority"
mp3 Entire
22 John Fitzgerald Kennedy
"Ich bin ein Berliner"
mp3 Entire

23 Clarence Seward Darrow
"Mercy for Leopold and Loeb"

24 Russell H. Conwell
"Acres of Diamonds"
mp3 Short Excerpt

25 Ronald Wilson Reagan
"A Time for Choosing"


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fortyfeetunder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-18-08 10:12 PM
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4. Get to the Greatest page...
yeah!
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QC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-18-08 10:12 PM
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5. LOL! n/t
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meow mix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-18-08 10:13 PM
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7. can this one be second?
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WillyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-18-08 10:14 PM
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9. Definitely In THIS Century, And For This Generation, Yeah !!!
:kick:
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ElsewheresDaughter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-18-08 10:14 PM
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10. oy
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ronnykmarshall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 03:55 PM
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54. ve!
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Lilith Velkor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 05:39 PM
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56. gevalt!
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ronnykmarshall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 07:59 PM
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59. This is SO MESHUGGINA!
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Johnny__Motown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-18-08 10:15 PM
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12. Mr. Average American... Tear Down These Racial Divides....
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chimpymustgo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-18-08 10:17 PM
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15. You guys are too much. It's like you're reliving your first kiss. Ever heard of MLK
JFK, RFK, FDR - just to name a FEW of the great speakers of the last hundred years.

Wow.
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Upton Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-18-08 10:20 PM
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16. Can't recall one better
in fact for all those doubters, it would be interesting to hear just what speech they would rate above Sen. Obamas.
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lumberjack_jeff Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-18-08 10:40 PM
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22. Hi neighbor.
"Ich Bin Ein Berliner"?
"I have a dream?"
"Ask not..."?
"I've set this goal (Apollo), not because it is easy, but because it is hard"?
"A day which will live in infamy"?
"In the councils of government, we must guard against the acquisition of unwarranted influence, whether sought or unsought, by the militaryindustrial complex."?

I would settle for this:
Address in Charleston, West Virginia
October 1, 1948

By President Harry S Truman:


Mr. Chairman, Governor of West Virginia, distinguished guests:

For the past 2 weeks I have been visiting the people of this country. I have met
thousands of people and spoken to hundreds of thousands. I think I have been
seen by at least 2½ million people in this country.

I have a vital message to bring to the people of the United States, and tonight
I want to bring that message to you.

The heart of my message is this: The national election this fall will decide
matters of grave importance to every man, woman, and child in the United States.
It will affect the security of your jobs, your homes, and your future.

You have a choice between the Democratic Party and the Republican Party.

Within the memory of most of us here, a clear record has been written that shows
how much difference that choice can make.

The Republicans wrote part of their record from 1921 to 1933. They led the
country to depression, poverty, and despair.

It is easy to forget what the black days of the depression were like. Let us
recall a few, just a few of the bitter facts.

In 1932, after 12 years of Republican bungling, more than 12 million men and
women were unemployed.

In 1932 the average worker in manufacturing industries was making 45 cents an
hour -- if he was lucky enough to have a job. In coal mining, the most hazardous
of all occupations, miners were making 52 cents an hour -- if they were lucky
enough to have jobs.

The working men and women in this country could not do much to help themselves,
because the strength of their unions had been broken by the reactionary labor
policies of the Republican administration.

The Republican bubble burst in 1929, and when it burst:

-- There was no minimum wage to cushion the blow.

-- There was no unemployment compensation to carry the working man's family
along.

-- There was no work relief program to help people through the crisis.

-- But the party of privilege was ready to carry big business through the
crisis. It created the Reconstruction Finance Corporation for that purpose. The
banks, the railways, the insurance companies -- they got relief, but not the
American people.

-- For the unemployed, it was Hoovervilles and soup kitchens. Veterans were
encouraged to go into business for themselves -- selling apples.

That is the Republican record. Most of us well remember it. The Democratic part
of the record begins in 1933, when the Democratic Party began to build
prosperity for business, labor, and agriculture.

We wrote into law the right of the working men and women to organize in unions
of their own choice, and to bargain collectively.

We put a floor under wages.

We outlawed child labor.

We created a great insurance system to protect working men and women against the
hazards of unemployment and old age.

We wrote into law a system of price supports for farm products, so that the
bottom would not drop from under the farmer's income the way it did in the
1920's.

We put a curb on Wall Street speculation, and stopped the money changers from
gambling with people's savings.

With these reforms and many others, the Democratic Party brought the country to
the greatest period of prosperity ever known in the history of the world.

Things are far different now from what they were in 1932.

The average farm income of the farmer in 1947 was $725 per person, nearly ten
times as great. In 1932 it was $74 per person.

The coal miner who got 52 cents an hour in 1932, gets $1.94 an hour in 1948. He
deserves every cent of it, too; and I'm glad to see him get it.

And business hasn't suffered too much under the New Deal! Corporations had a
loss of $4 billion in 1932. But in 1947 they had a profit of $17 billion, after
taxes.

These same corporations -- these same corporations now claim the Democrats are
hostile to business. If I were in their shoes, I would want some more of that
kind of hostility.

Today, signs of prosperity are all over the country. I have been all over the
country, and I know what I am talking about!

Farm production is greater than it ever was. Industrial production is greater
than it every was. Everybody who wants a job can get one.

That's the way America is today. The real question facing us in this election is
whether or not we are going to keep it that way.

For all this did not come about by accident. Some people would like to make you
think it did. The leaders of the Republican Party would like you to believe that
the country just drifted into the great depression, and that it just drifted out
again into prosperity. They would like you to believe that the Democratic New
Deal had nothing to do with recovery -- and that the Republicans had nothing to
do with the Hoover panic.

That is not true and the people know it is not true.

The country was driven into depression by the policies of a Republican
administration and a Republican Congress that served the selfish interests of
the rich and powerful business groups.

The country was brought out of the depression by the intelligent foresight and
planning of the Democratic Party -- and above all by following the fundamental
belief of the Democratic Party that the true road to prosperity begins with
looking after the little fellow. The Republicans believe in taking care of big
business first and letting the little fellow take care of himself.

The Republicans would like you to forget these fundamental differences between
the two parties. But during the past 2 years we have been given a sharp warning
that these differences still exist, and these differences are wide and deep.
That has been made completely clear by the record of this Republican
"do-nothing" 80th Congress.

No matter what the Republicans do or say, the Republicans cannot escape
responsibility for that black record.

I know, of course, that there are many fine people throughout the United States,
who from habit or choice are members of the Republican Party. To them I say that
the national leadership of their party has failed them miserably.

I know, too, that among the Republicans of the 80th Congress there were a few
liberal men who joined the battle against special privilege. You can pick these
men out by their votes. They voted with the Democrats in the Congress more often
than they did with their own Republican leadership. When these men went to their
party caucuses they must have felt very lonesome.

The record of the 80th Congress was made by the forces that dominate the
Republican Party.

I thank God that the men who held positions of leadership in dealing with
foreign affairs were of a character which made it possible for us to work
together in carrying out our foreign policy on a bipartisan basis.

But on domestic issues it was a different matter. The Republican leadership
started out to follow the same policies that nearly wrecked the country under
Harding, Coolidge, and Hoover.

Some people have accused me of failing to cooperate with the Republican
leadership in carrying out those policies. Now, I must confess to you that I am
going to plead guilty to that charge. Of course, I did not cooperate in carrying
out policies that I knew would bring disaster on the American people.

But I will tell you how you can get some cooperation in carrying out those
policies -- if that's what you want. I will tell l you how you can achieve unity
in a headlong dash toward another depression. Just elect a Republican President
to go along with a Republican Congress.

Just elect a man who said -- and I quote: "I am proud of the record of my party
and of the 80th Congress."

Just elect a man who said: "The 80th Congress delivered as no other Congress
ever did for the future of our country."

Apparently he will be glad to help deliver a lot more of the same kind of blows
you got from the 80th Congress. But bigger blows -- and faster and more of them.

What did this Republican Congress deliver for the future of the country?

For one thing, it delivered a body blow at labor in the form of the Taft-Hartley
Act.

The fundamental purpose of the Taft-Hartley Act is to weaken organized labor.
Its supporters want management to have the upper hand in collective bargaining.
Do you know why? They want management to have the upper hand so that wages can
be driven down.

What else did the Republican Congress deliver for the future of our country?

It delivered a body blow at nearly a million workers by taking away their social
security rights.

It delivered a body blow at millions of our veterans by refusing to provide a
decent housing program.

It delivered a blow at every family in the Nation by failing to act on high
prices.

What else did the Republican Congress deliver for the future of our country? It
delivered a whole long list of blows at every foundation of our present
prosperity and at our hopes for progress in the future. I can't cover them all
tonight, but I will tell you about just one more.

That is the rich man's tax relief bill.

The Republican Congress passed a tax bill that reduced the revenues of the
Government by more than $5 billion. That Congress passed it three times and I
vetoed it every time. But on the third try, they passed it over my veto.

I believed that the safety of our national finances required that we make large
payments on the public debt in times of prosperity. I still think so.

But the Republican rich man's tax relief bill has brought us face to face with
the prospect of going into the red again.

I believed that when the wartime taxes were reduced, the poor man should be
relieved first and most. I still think so. But the Republican tax bill doesn't
work that way.

I warned that the tax reduction bill would add to the inflationary pressures and
make prices go even higher. And it did.

For most of you, the tax bill hasn't helped a bit. If you make $60 a week, your
taxes were reduced about $1.50 a week. But since May, when that $1.50 began to
show up in your pay envelope, prices have gone up so much that the $1.50 is
already wiped out.

The rich man fared much better under the tax bill. A married couple with an
income of $100,000 a year got a tax cut of $16,725 a year -- $16,725 a year!
That's about $12,000 more than my net salary as President of the United States.

Of course, prices haven't gone up for them any more than they have for you. So I
would say that they came out pretty well.

Is it any wonder that we call this a rich man's tax relief bill?

That's typical of the way the Republican 80th Congress delivered for the future
of the country. Some time later, I am going to elaborate on just exactly what
they did with the budget this year. And it fits in with this rich man's tax
relief bill. It's outrageous what they did to the country on that.

That Congress delivered for the interests that had their lobbyists swarming all
over the Capital. It delivered for special privilege groups that put up the big
money at election time.

They are doing that right now in this election. That same bunch of lobbyists and
people whom they represent are paying for the Republican campaign right this
minute.

Now, they passed a great many bills, which I vetoed. There is only one President
who has a greater veto record than I have, in the short time that I have been
President, and that is Grover Cleveland; and I am proud of that veto record,
because I was standing there working for the people, when I was signing those
vetoes.

But they passed a great many -- not a great many, but several -- among them this
tax relief bill and the Taft-Hartley bill. They passed those bills over my veto.

But when a bill becomes the law of the land, the President of the United States
has sworn to enforce the law, and as President of the United States, I have
lived up to that oath which I took to support the Constitution and the laws of
the United States.

But if you want these bad things remedied, you had better give me a Congress for
the next 4 years that is working for the people and not for the special
interests.

Now, if you want unity and harmony and sweetness and light in getting more
deliveries of the kind I have been describing, just shut your eyes and vote
Republican.

But if you want something delivered for labor, if you want something delivered
for the farmers, and if you want something delivered for the small businessmen,
and for the white-collar worker -- there is just one way you can make your vote
count. Vote the Democratic ticket.

Today, the Democratic Party is the party of the American people. It was the
party of the people under Jefferson and Jackson. It was the party of the people
under Wilson and Franklin Roosevelt.

Today, we of the Democratic Party express the will of the American people to
move forward, under liberty, yielding neither to communism nor to reaction.

Today, the Democratic Party stands before the country a living force for peace
and freedom.

Today, we are rallying our forces for the greatest struggle in our history. In
that struggle, I ask your support.

Just give us the votes on election day, and we will do the job.


Sadly, we don't do "populist" any more. It's unseemly.
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dysfunctional press Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-18-08 10:24 PM
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18. not.
Edited on Tue Mar-18-08 10:25 PM by QuestionAll
if you limited it to American speeches, it could probably make the top ten or so.

it was that good.
and by the end of his second term, i'm sure that he'll have given many many more...probably even better.
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-18-08 10:27 PM
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19. Ummm....no
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lumberjack_jeff Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-18-08 10:29 PM
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20. Top 20. Somewhere above checkers and below "I'll raise your taxes". n/t
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Perky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-18-08 10:30 PM
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21. Top 10 not nearly number one.
I have a dream
Kennedy Inaugurala
Roosevelt afte Pearl Harbor
WJ Bryan Cross of Gold
Teddy Kennedy Convention speech in 1980
Reagn "Tear down this wall"


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happyslug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 12:40 AM
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33. We have to remove WJ Bryan Cross of Gold, that was in 1896 and the limit is last 100 years.
This being 2008 that means only speeches since 1908, so the Cross of Gold is to early, it was spoken in 1896. It is a great Speech, one of the Greatest even spoken, but not in the last 100 years.
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Perky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 04:49 AM
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41. picky pick.y...lol
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happyslug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 05:23 PM
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55. If not we have to use WJ Bryan's own selection of Greatest Speeches
Edited on Wed Mar-19-08 05:24 PM by happyslug
For the full list see:
http://www.bartleby.com/268/

He included not only men but two women:
Frances Elizabeth Willard (1839–98)on "What can be done for humanity":
http://www.bartleby.com/268/10/19.html , and
Susan Brownell Anthony (1820–1906) on "The Right to Woman's Suffrage":
http://www.bartleby.com/268/10/5.html


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tammywammy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-18-08 10:41 PM
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23. I'm gonna go no on this one
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screembloodymurder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-18-08 10:45 PM
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24. I'm 60.
It was one of the top three in my lifetime and I was not an Obama supporter ... before today.
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la la Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-18-08 10:49 PM
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25. uh uh--- n/t
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bullwinkle428 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-18-08 10:52 PM
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26. A great speech, but an insult to MLK if you think it tops
his "I Have A Dream" speech...
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tridim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-18-08 10:52 PM
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27. Ask me in a year or two.
Even without hindsight it's certainly has amazing potential. If it affects us like I hope, it'll be at the top of the list of most important speeches in American history.
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MonkeyFunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-18-08 11:20 PM
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29. oh come on now...
it was good, but it wasn't the Sermon on the Mount. You guys are getting a little crazy over this.

It was a damage-control speech - and well done. But it's more akin to Nixon's "Checkers" speech than MLK's "I Have a Dream".
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greyghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-18-08 11:29 PM
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30. I've waited over a quarter century for it. K&R
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HuffleClaw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-18-08 11:31 PM
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31. holy hyperbole batman! n/t
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LuvMyPorsche Donating Member (121 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-18-08 11:41 PM
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32. hyperbole?
I hope
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bridgit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 12:44 AM
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34. Can't rec therefore...I guess disagree, maybe in the last 2yrs of Dem speeches...
Edited on Wed Mar-19-08 12:45 AM by bridgit
Still sad he didn't deliver it some months back now, and sadder delivered so in response to his poll numbers falling as a candidate. I don't think MLK was concerned about such things but that's just me
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Kurt_and_Hunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 12:44 AM
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35. Last 100 years? Try ALL TIME! Made Pericles' funeral oration seem like "The Pina Colada Song"
It was clearly the mort important speech in human history.
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bridgit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 12:47 AM
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36. Puh-lease...
:rofl:
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Major Hogwash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 05:36 AM
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44. Do you hear that sound? It's the sound of Hillary's campaign being flushed down the pipes.
Bubba had his hand on the handle.

It's over.

Get over it.
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bridgit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 11:47 AM
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53. Whatever the hell you're talking about, that speech certainly imo was not the best speech...
of "ALL TIME!" get over *that* :rofl:
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Bake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 07:21 AM
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46. You forgot the sarcasm smiley
Some people won't get it if you're not obvious!

:hi:

Bake
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Monty__ Donating Member (352 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 12:52 AM
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37. Very solid speech
Edited on Wed Mar-19-08 12:53 AM by Monty__
most famous of last 100 years? Not even close. Maybe top 10, maybe. Still a very good speech. One of, if not the best this decade / century.

FDR, JFK, MLK, even Eisenhower (2 of his actually) had better speeches.
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maximusveritas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 12:53 AM
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38. Famous? You mean right now? Of course not
Might it be famous 20 or 30 years from now? Probably, but still not the most famous.
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meow mix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 12:54 AM
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39. REC
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AZ Criminal JD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 01:03 AM
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40. Most famous in the last 100 years?
Is it no wonder they call the O-bots at cult.
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A-Schwarzenegger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 05:27 AM
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42. What about Checkers & the Respectable Republican Cloth Coat!
Sheesh.
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mythyc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 05:29 AM
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43. if it were about a competition
it wouldn't capsize mlk in my boat, or a couple of bobby kennedy's gems. that said it's the best since, so why "rate"?

;)
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Orsino Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 06:57 AM
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45. Ask me again in a year or ten.
I thought it was very good, and magnificently delivered, but a classic? It's a bit early for such a declaration.
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Bake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 07:22 AM
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47. Frankly, in terms of oratory, it wasn't as good as his convention speech.
And his convention speech wasn't even as good as Bill C.'s "Man from Hope" speech.

It's got a beat and you can dance to it; I'd give it a 75.

Bake
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Vinca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 07:37 AM
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48. In the top ten. nt
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Exilednight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 07:41 AM
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49. I'm an Obama supporter, but this isn't even the most famous speech.......
on race relations in the past 100 years, much the number one speech of all time. King's I Have a Dream speech will be the speech that all other race speeches are measured by.

Personally, this was a good speech for Barack, but it wasn't even his best speech. His 2004 speech at the National Convention is still his best speech.
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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 07:44 AM
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50. You seriously must be joking
It was a good speech, especially for a damage control speech, but the best of the last 100 years? OMFG.

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zanne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 07:48 AM
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52. Obama will not allow himself to be Swiftboated.
Just another reason to elect him.
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DemGa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 05:41 PM
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57. C'mon, he threw his own grandmother under the bus
It was a calculated political speech and nothing more.
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Melinda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 05:43 PM
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58. I support Barack Obama, but I can't vote yes in your poll...
I watched Dr. King deliver his "I have a Dream" speech at the base of the Lincoln Memorial, and I watched when Bobby Kennedy, after hearing that Dr. King had been assassinated, said this:

Ladies and Gentlemen,

I'm only going to talk to you just for a minute or so this evening, because I have some -- some very sad news for all of you -- Could you lower those signs, please? -- I have some very sad news for all of you, and, I think, sad news for all of our fellow citizens, and people who love peace all over the world; and that is that Martin Luther King was shot and was killed tonight in Memphis, Tennessee.

Martin Luther King dedicated his life to love and to justice between fellow human beings. He died in the cause of that effort. In this difficult day, in this difficult time for the United States, it's perhaps well to ask what kind of a nation we are and what direction we want to move in. For those of you who are black -- considering the evidence evidently is that there were white people who were responsible -- you can be filled with bitterness, and with hatred, and a desire for revenge.

We can move in that direction as a country, in greater polarization -- black people amongst blacks, and white amongst whites, filled with hatred toward one another. Or we can make an effort, as Martin Luther King did, to understand, and to comprehend, and replace that violence, that stain of bloodshed that has spread across our land, with an effort to understand, compassion, and love.

For those of you who are black and are tempted to fill with -- be filled with hatred and mistrust of the injustice of such an act, against all white people, I would only say that I can also feel in my own heart the same kind of feeling. I had a member of my family killed, but he was killed by a white man.

But we have to make an effort in the United States. We have to make an effort to understand, to get beyond, or go beyond these rather difficult times.

My favorite poem, my -- my favorite poet was Aeschylus. And he once wrote:

Even in our sleep, pain which cannot forget
falls drop by drop upon the heart,
until, in our own despair,
against our will,
comes wisdom
through the awful grace of God.

What we need in the United States is not division; what we need in the United States is not hatred; what we need in the United States is not violence and lawlessness, but is love, and wisdom, and compassion toward one another, and a feeling of justice toward those who still suffer within our country, whether they be white or whether they be black.

So I ask you tonight to return home, to say a prayer for the family of Martin Luther King -- yeah, it's true -- but more importantly to say a prayer for our own country, which all of us love -- a prayer for understanding and that compassion of which I spoke.

We can do well in this country. We will have difficult times. We've had difficult times in the past, but we -- and we will have difficult times in the future. It is not the end of violence; it is not the end of lawlessness; and it's not the end of disorder.

But the vast majority of white people and the vast majority of black people in this country want to live together, want to improve the quality of our life, and want justice for all human beings that abide in our land.

And let's dedicate ourselves to what the Greeks wrote so many years ago: to tame the savageness of man and make gentle the life of this world. Let us dedicate ourselves to that, and say a prayer for our country and for our people.

Thank you very much.


In my small opinion, the above speech alone helped to calm a situation ripe for racial violence. Ans it's stayed with me all these many years.

And so while I think Barack Obama's speech was immensely important, that it was timely, that its message of broader understanding and reconciliation needs to be spread far and wide. And I applaud MY candidate for writing and delivering the message whilst under egregious and unfair partisan attacks simply because he loves someone whose experience differs from his own, and who espouses a belief different from his own.

Love the sinner, hate the sin.

I'm such a fan of Senator Oabama's, and I loved, loved, loved his speech and its message -- it so needed to be said. But I just can't rate this speech above Dr. Kings, or even Senator Kennedy's (it has a deep hold on my heart) -- I simply can't.

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tabasco Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 08:00 PM
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60. JFK's inauguration speech is more famous.
"Ask not what your country can do for you..."
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