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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 12:37 AM
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Sen. Feingold weighs in on Clinton, Obama, McCain
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Feingold said he voted for Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill., in the Wisconsin presidential primary, and is “highly inclined” to cast his superdelegate vote for Obama at the Democratic National Convention because Obama won Wisconsin.

The past few weeks have been bad news for Democrats, Feingold said, mentioning problems between the campaigns of Obama and U.S. Sen. Hillary Clinton, D-N.Y.

Obama’s speech Tuesday about racial issues raised by his Chicago pastor was “very convincing,” Feingold said. “He pushed it away pretty good today, but it’s going to keep coming back.”

Feingold said it’s ridiculous to hold a politician responsible for everything said by a rabbi or minister at Sunday services.

“The reverend’s remarks bothered me a great deal. I find those remarks really offensive,” Feingold said, adding he believes they’re the exact opposite of Obama’s beliefs.

(snip)

http://www.lacrossetribune.com/articles/2008/03/19/news/01lead.txt
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fujiyama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 12:42 AM
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1. Feingold did say he voted for Obama in WI's primary..
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ossman Donating Member (883 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 12:47 AM
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2. Then just cast your SD vote Russ! C'mon.
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RiverStone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 01:04 AM
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4. WTF is he waiting for?
:shrug:
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ossman Donating Member (883 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 01:06 AM
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5. And he is a Dem with a backbone. Kinda unseemly to lurk until Obama screws up.
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bridgit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 12:48 AM
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3. thanks for posting
:thumbsup:
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meow mix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 01:06 AM
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6. excellent K&R
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jobycom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 01:08 AM
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7. I dislike Obama, but I hate this Wright nonsense.
We all understand, or should, that this is a racist attack on Obama, and goes beyond Obama. It's the typical tactic of portraying a black man as too black for white America. It was done to Jackson, it's being done here.

Obama started out "not black enough," which is what Americans wanted. Not all Americans, of course, but enough. He was black, but he grew up white, sounds almost white, has a white man's career, is, as Biden said, clean and articulate--understand I'm not saying that about him, just that white America could perceive him that way. White America (and by that I don't mean all white people) was comfortable with him. When Obama made his push for the black vote, he started becoming black, and that started scaring White America. Their "negro tolerance" was triggered, to use an old phrase.

These attacks on Wright, which came from the media and thus from the powers that be, were meant to make him more black. He's no longer the white black man that white Americans can vote for to assuage their white guilt while not really doing anything non-white. He's becoming the radical angry black man that white people fear--the one who will take over the country, avenge slavery and segregation, make us all wear bling, and make little Erica want to date black men (Reference to Emminem song, in case that's not obvious).

These attacks on Obama through Wright are racist, and are sickening. They are meant to play on stereotypes exactly the way Willie Horton ads did, exactly the way Reagan's "welfare queen" speeches did, or Pat Buchanan's "Take back our culture" speeches did. I'm in the strange position of wanting to see these attacks fail while still wanting to see him lose the nomination.

It puts the whole party in a difficult position, too. How should Clinton respond? If you know her history (not the one that says she's a golddigger, but the real history), you know Civil Rights has been one of her and her husband's driving forces throughout their lives. If she jumps in and criticizes Obama, she undermines what she believes in, but she might win the nomination. If she stays silent, she misses an opportunity to pick up votes, and also risks people accusing her of enjoying, or even orchestrating, these attacks. If she jumps in and defends him, she risks opening the wounds further while sinking her own campaign.

There are two big losers in this Wright fiasco. One is the Democratic Party, which is being pushed into a corner where any move gets them in trouble, and two, as always, as goddamned always in this country, the African American community.

I don't know what to hope for out of this. If Obama survives, I fear we are stuck with somebody completely unprepared for the job. If he falls, that says everything about this nation we've always known, always feared, and always hoped wasn't really true. I hope he survives this, and then loses anyway, and that just doesn't seem likely.

One thing I'd like to see. I'd like to see all my fellow Clinton supporters shut the goddamn hell up about Wright. I promise you, as you all already know, that Clinton herself understands, sympathizes, and probably even agrees with just about everything Reverend Wright says. Just shut up and quit trying to score points off of attacks we should all as Democrats, as Americans, as humans, be denouncing with all our strength. It's not worth winning at these costs. It's not winning at these costs. It's losing everything we want to win for.
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 01:23 AM
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9. Awesome and welcomed post!
Thanks for explaining your mixed emotions on this, and for showing people that these things are never as black and white (no pun intended...for once) as they seem.

:thumbsup:
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 01:24 AM
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10. Thanks for the thoughtful reply.
I have very recently been swayed to the Obama side of the fence, since my favorite candidates are long gone. His speech was very moving, and re-awakened within me the hope for a better America. It has been a long time since a politician has done this.

Nevertheless, we mustn't lose sight of the main goal: a Democrat back in the White House.

Aside from wanting justice and additional help for New Orleans and the Gulf region impacted by hurricane Katrina, I have SCOTUS on my mind.... constantly. A McCain administration and the ensuing SCOTUS nominations would likely put the last nail in the coffin of our democratic republic.



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Why Syzygy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 01:34 AM
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13. Thank you.
This is what I've been saying beneath the din the past several days. The reporting IS racist.
You explained that much better than I ever could.

I believe he will make an excellent president. Maybe the very events so far will be a healing balm for us instead of more toxic bigotry. The medicine sux.

Thank you for your thoughtful perspective. I would like to see the progressive community improve in their reaction.
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 01:18 AM
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8. Feingold is DEAD to me!
:silly:
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Umbram Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 01:26 AM
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11. That's good news. (nt)
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Breeze54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 01:28 AM
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12. Thanks for the info, Swamp Rat
Of course he voted for Obama. I'm not surprised at all.

:kick: & Recommended
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Window Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 06:26 AM
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14. K/R.
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 06:30 AM
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15. So, Russ... how about gathering some "undecided" SDs and
Edited on Wed Mar-19-08 06:30 AM by SoCalDem
DECIDE ALREADY..

This whole sitting back and playing coy thing, is why we ARE where we ARE..

If SDs are FOR Hillary, just GO THERE and let her see the REAL math.. If she's got a chance with it, that's one thing, but if more SDs go for BHO, then let's see your damned cards, and end this interminable poker game already..

Assuming that there are still 300 or so to decide, just line up behind your person and let us all see what's what..
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