I see so many posts here saying Dean sucks, Dean makes me sad, Dean is a loser. It is all so silly. At this stage the rules kick in for whether the two states and the Hillary campaign go to the rules committee or more likely the credentials committee this summers.
I doubt they will bother with the rules committee since they are the ones who sanctioned them.
There is apparently going to be a push by the Hillary campaign to win no matter what, even though the figures are now against.
People keep coming here in droves now to condemn the ones who are not in control of this right now. Learn what is going on, and stop trying to disrupt and divide the party.
Nobody wins that way.
Read this article all the way through, carefully. Take time to do it.
How The Battle over Michigan and Florida is Fought.Less than a year ago Florida and Michigan embarked on a dare. Republican and Democratic Party rulemakers wishing to prevent a cycle of states moving their dates forward and moving the Presidential race into 2007 drew a line in the sand. The states of Florida and Michigan crossed that line and forfeited their delegates on the Democratic side. They thought maybe their contest would influence the race anyway and by the time the convention came around the parties already having settled on a nominee would restore their delegations so that it wouldn’t become an issue in the general. For better or worse on the Democratic side the race continues and Michigan and Florida’s gamble is looking more and more like a bad one.
Then comes the discussion of the committees who are in charge of this now. It was never in Howard Dean's hands. He was not even at the rules committee meeting which sanctioned Florida. The committee was appointed by McAuliffe in December 2004.
The chairs of the committee are all veterans of the Clinton administration in some way: Alexis Herman, James Roosevelt, Jr. and Eliseo Roques-Arroyo: this led to certain conspiracy theories. But all three have maintained their neutrality; there are many Clinton officials supporting Obama, and it’s hard to find prominent Dems who didn’t play some role in the Clinton administration.
Anyway, Mr. Dean has not packed the committee with Clinton loyalists. He’s packed the committee with, well, Dean loyalists. Those of us who covered the Dean campaign will be familiar with many of the names,and the names follow.
I know many of them from before, they are fair people who believe in following rules.
Here is more:
After around the end of June the Credentials Committee begins to take over. I’ll explain how the members of this standing committee for the convention are selected. There are 183 votes on the committee (including a quarter vote given to American Samoa, the Virgin Islands, Guam, and Democrats Abroad). 157 of them (we’ll exclude Democrats abroad and the three territories) of them are divided by population with every state (as well as Puerto Rico and the District of Columbia) having a minimum of one member. The elected delegates to the convention of each state and territory vote who they want their members to be. But of course it isn’t that simple.
..."In addition there are 25 spots on each committee for “Party Leaders and Elected Officials” called PLEOs who are elected by the Executive Committee of the Democratic National Committee. Nominees for these 25 spots are submitted by Howard Dean after “consultation with the State Chairs from those states from which members are contemplated to be nominated.”
With Obama doing well in smaller states and smaller states being overrepresented (in terms of population) on the committees Obama will have a plurality of members. Both Clinton and Obama will still probably need the votes of members selected by Howard Dean in order to reach a majority.
Then the article covers the convention. There are step by step rules which the media is ridiculing, and which people are coming here in droves to shout out against.
But that is the way things work. FL and MI know it. Hillary knows it. They do not care. They want it to be their way.
The battle is on, and it is not the fault of Howard Dean or the DNC. It is fault of two states who butted ahead in line, and a candidate who thinks the rules do not apply to her.
Read the article, and quit the talking points.